Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Wonder how much "a little extra to unlock" a favored class might be for FPT? If it were 5 or 10 bucks, that wouldnt be too bad, seeing as how the client is free to DL and its FTP.

the class unlock is 7.50 for both EQ and EQ2 -- wouldnt surprise me if its same for Vanguard

thx!...that's not bad. think i'll go ahead and roll a DK and see how the ftp version is panning out. if it looks fun and worthwhile sticking around, i'll plunk down the money. Kinda set on the dread knight, heh

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Fangrim

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by SuperXero89
I think it's a mistake to let people play those classes without purchasing them even if it's only to level 20.  What if someone doesn't even see the level 20 restriction then wonders why they can't play their character or why they can't level up once they reach 20 in-game?

When you click on the "class" buttons during character creation, there is big bold yellow text to begin the description of the class warning you its restricted...if you miss it, then you prob should't be playing the game at all, as your attention span is 0.

 And any race/class also has a yellow border that is restricted to level 20.

Yeah, but in a world where we have to put warnings on pizza boxes to remind people not to consume them frozen, people are stupid.  I can see a lot of people plowing through character select then submitting lots of tickets to customer support wondering why they can't progress their character.

Just tell them "Congratulations upon reaching max level" and move on..../close ticket lol

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by Fangrim

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by SuperXero89
I think it's a mistake to let people play those classes without purchasing them even if it's only to level 20.  What if someone doesn't even see the level 20 restriction then wonders why they can't play their character or why they can't level up once they reach 20 in-game?

When you click on the "class" buttons during character creation, there is big bold yellow text to begin the description of the class warning you its restricted...if you miss it, then you prob should't be playing the game at all, as your attention span is 0.

 And any race/class also has a yellow border that is restricted to level 20.

Yeah, but in a world where we have to put warnings on pizza boxes to remind people not to consume them frozen, people are stupid.  I can see a lot of people plowing through character select then submitting lots of tickets to customer support wondering why they can't progress their character.

Wait...you're telling me you're suppose to heat up frozen pizzas first? Doh! I was wondering why they were so damn chewy.

The six free races included with Free Membership are: Thestran, Halfling, Kojani, Half-Elf, Qaliathari, and Mordebi.

The seven free classes included with Free Membership are: Warrior, Rogue, Monk , Cleric, Disciple, Sorcerer and Necromancer.

Bleh. Well this ruins every thing. Blood mage was the only class I like. Dwarf was the only race I like.

/cry

Originally posted by beat_down

The six free races included with Free Membership are: Thestran, Halfling, Kojani, Half-Elf, Qaliathari, and Mordebi.

The seven free classes included with Free Membership are: Warrior, Rogue, Monk , Cleric, Disciple, Sorcerer and Necromancer.

 

Bleh. Well this ruins every thing. Blood mage was the only class I like. Dwarf was the only race I like.

 

/cry

well i wasted my time leveling a dark elf dread knight to 11

A few things.

Pay yearly its like 7.50 a month

Pay yearly for station access its 14.99 a month you can play any SOE game

 Both give you 500 station cash every month.

If this is not for you triple station cash weekends are 2-3 times a year 15$ at walmart gets you 4500 station cash during these weekends (classes in EQ are 750 station cash).  So yah you basically get to unluck the classes for cheap if you choose to during triple weekends.

Originally posted by William12

A few things.

 

Pay yearly its like 7.50 a month

Pay yearly for station access its 14.99 a month you can play any SOE game

If I was willing to pay I would have already been playing. This game is not worth a subscription fee with the neglect it gets.

So this means they went back on their word that premium characters created prior to free to play would still be playable?

Well that sucks.

Originally posted by kadepsyson

So this means they went back on their word that premium characters created prior to free to play would still be playable?

Well that sucks.

read the FAQ.

"As a special thank you to players who have ever had a subscription to Vanguard, characters of all levels that were created before the free-to-play conversion will all be available regardless of your membership type. In addition, these players will have 12 character slots (or your previous maximum number, whichever is higher) available on their account regardless of their membership type."

"Characters that existed before the Free-to-Play conversion will also have a full complement of bag slots available, and access to items currently in the bank regardless of slot limitations. New items will not be able to be placed in the bank beyond the slots normally granted to Free members, and once items are removed from these restricted slots they will not be able to be placed in the bank in excess of normal limitations."

Originally posted by beat_down

Originally posted by William12

A few things.

 

Pay yearly its like 7.50 a month

Pay yearly for station access its 14.99 a month you can play any SOE game

 

If I was willing to pay I would have already been playing. This game is not worth a subscription fee with the neglect it gets.

Sorta the point with F2P they invested heavily in a new dev team over the last 6 months have spent time updating and fixing stuff.  Just look at the patch today if that doesn't say we're actively updating this game nothing will.

The real reason they did that is so all those sub lvl 20 alts will not be grandfathered in now.

People will have to buy them if they want to play them past 20 now where as before even a lvl 2 non ftp class/race combo got grandfathered in for free.

it looks good until you scroll down and read the non highlighted portion .it is essentially not f2p .it is b2p . read this :

1. Vanguard: Saga of Heroes requires an internet connection (which you are responsible for) in order to play. Regardless of your account access level, Free or Gold, all optional content from the in-game Marketplace requires a purchase. Gold Membership is available for $14.99 USD per month.
2. The six free races included with Free Membership are: Thestran, Halfling, Kojani, Half-Elf, Qaliathari, and Mordebi.
3. All classes are playable for Free members up until Level 20. After Level 20, the seven free classes included with Free Membership are: Warrior, Rogue, Monk , Cleric, Disciple, Sorcerer and Necromancer.
4. Uncommon and higher will have limited availability for Free members.
5. Free players will be able to sell items in the Broker system, but at a higer cost than Gold Members.
6. Free players will be able to send and receive mail, but at a higher cost than Gold Members.
7. Free accounts will receive customer service to resolve real money transaction based issues only. Support for other gameplay and performance issues is available at the online knowledge base.

Originally posted by SuperXero89
I think it's a mistake to let people play those classes without purchasing them even if it's only to level 20.  What if someone doesn't even see the level 20 restriction then wonders why they can't play their character or why they can't level up once they reach 20 in-game?

You could play any class and any race up to level 10 before. You just couldnt leave the Isle of Dawn.

Originally posted by lotaparty

it looks good until you scroll down and read the non highlighted portion .it is essentially not f2p .it is b2p . read this :

Whine, whine. To anyone who has experience with the free versions of EQ and EQ2, this all looks very familiar, even generous. At least this time, its try-before-you-buy on the premium races and classes.

Originally posted by wrightstuf
I Downloaded the ftp client just now and noticed the Dread Knight (which was my choice to create) along with a few other classes were restricted to level 20.Is this how it will be for the new FTP version iof the game? Certainly hope not. Maybe i'm missing something?

The bastards! For what they're charging, they should at least let you play to level 40 and have access to all classes.