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General Discussion  » So is GW2 basically a slightly improved RIFT?

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  DJJazzy

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Joined: 5/18/11
Posts: 2055

8/05/12 12:01:48 PM#121
Originally posted by Mari2k
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

From what I've seen in beta, yes it is.

But at leastits free.


It's free?

  User Deleted
8/05/12 12:04:11 PM#122
Originally posted by tordurbar
Fact: When you complete a Dynamic Event that changes the map you are in a new instance of the map.

You should seriously consider playing a game you talk about before posting facts. It would avoid you this kind of embarassing situation, since this pretty much proves that you either didn't play the game at all, or that you are not telling the truth in order to make the game look bad.

There are no instances in the world, no phasing. The result of the dynamic event you just done are visible by everybody else. It's not phasing like WoW. If you freed that outpost from it's centaur invaders, everybody will be able to use the outpost's facilities, and not just the player who completed the "phase", since there's no phase.

  Nadia

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 8154

8/05/12 12:08:20 PM#123
Originally posted by tordurbar
I am afraid that the hype will have the same effect on GW2 as it had on AOC, WH, AION and Tera.

cant speak for all of them

but AOC was missing features like DX10, Drunken Brawling, 200 v 200 sieges

Warhammer cut out a few classes and 2 player cities before launch

 

whats GW2 lacking thats being oversold ?

EQNext press http://EQ3Wire.com

EQ2: Freeport server
GW2: Stormbluff Isle

  lickm3

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Joined: 3/06/11
Posts: 77

8/05/12 12:17:25 PM#124
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

You really can´t compare GW2 to any WoW clone.

Some randoms compared SW:TOR to WoW even while it's a different genre, etc. Personally I think GW2 will be crap. Pvp get soon old, almost everything instances, but lets see in one year and I might get it.  Hope it won't be overruned with another overhyped mmo like in this case ;)

  User Deleted
8/05/12 12:23:38 PM#125
Originally posted by lickm3
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

You really can´t compare GW2 to any WoW clone.

Some randoms compared SW:TOR to WoW even while it's a different genre, etc. Personally I think GW2 will be crap. Pvp get soon old, almost everything instances, but lets see in one year and I might get it.  Hope it won't be overruned with another overhyped mmo like in this case ;)

More lies... seriously, can't you guys say you don't like the game without posting lies about it?

Over 95% of the game is not instanced. What is instanced is personal story parts, PvE dungeons and structured PvP. Everything else is a huge world everybody shares.

  Aelious

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Joined: 9/27/11
Posts: 1316

World > Quest Progression

8/05/12 12:29:59 PM#126
Iickm3

Setting does not equal another genre. SWTOR is a lot like WoW in it's core design... Almost identical without the cutscenes. I'm not sure where you got that GW2 is all instanced, maybe you are confusing it with GW1? I'm also not sure what the last sentence was supposed to be.

Have fun none the less in the game you like.

Dear developers,

In my humble and inexperienced opinion if I can get through all the content you spent the last 5+ years working on within 6 months you have not done your work justice. Please give me, and everyone else, some tools to create our own content from what you have made so I can stay in your world and appreciate it longer than three weeks before I say "meh". It's a shame and I'd rather not do that to something you put so much of yourself in to.

  Aelious

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Joined: 9/27/11
Posts: 1316

World > Quest Progression

8/05/12 12:32:48 PM#127
Cronius

Expect it for the next three weeks as there is nothing else to do :) You can only watch so many videos and play with so many profession builders.

Dear developers,

In my humble and inexperienced opinion if I can get through all the content you spent the last 5+ years working on within 6 months you have not done your work justice. Please give me, and everyone else, some tools to create our own content from what you have made so I can stay in your world and appreciate it longer than three weeks before I say "meh". It's a shame and I'd rather not do that to something you put so much of yourself in to.

  Theocritus

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Joined: 7/15/08
Posts: 2840

8/05/12 12:38:27 PM#128
     Rift is the bastard child of WoW and WAR......GW2 is nothing like it.
  Xzen

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Joined: 5/01/06
Posts: 2547

A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.
- Seneca

8/05/12 12:38:53 PM#129
The only feature of GW2 I would consider to be an improvement from Rift are the DEs and not just a slight improvement but a big one. Other than that they are very different games aside from the fact that they are both themeparks.
  Mithrandolir

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Joined: 2/28/05
Posts: 1485

Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft' might win, by fearing to attempt

8/05/12 12:42:19 PM#130
Originally posted by tordurbar
Fact: When you complete a Dynamic Event that changes the map you are in a new instance of the map.

This is not true. At least not from my beta experience. All changes that happened during (and related to) dynamic events were "live" for everybody who came through the area, no phasing or instancing.

  Pelagato

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Joined: 4/10/07
Posts: 652

Beware of Felidae on the hunt.

8/05/12 1:07:17 PM#131
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato

yup, its the same thing all over again...

You have a bunch of classes, the same Tank, DPS, Healer trinity...

You can stop reading here. Credibility already dropped to zero.

Unless you were sarcastic and this was a joke - then I applaud.

[mod edit]

What the hell are you talking about, you dont know what trade about anything, the other guy you qoute is right and you are the only one who is Wrong here....

Get over it already, War and GW2 events are in the same lines like the other peep you quote said and the holy trinity is there... Only that this time there is no healer class, only healing templates that other classes have but you need a healer anyways...

Maybe the issue is that you believe to be something big when you are just another red shirt player hyping a game... Nothing new, nothing amazing... by November you are going to be hyping other game and complaining about GW2...

[mod edit]

By the way, i am not trolling or anything, I am simply giving you some of your own medicine...

  User Deleted
8/05/12 1:14:24 PM#132
Originally posted by Pelagato
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato

yup, its the same thing all over again...

You have a bunch of classes, the same Tank, DPS, Healer trinity...

You can stop reading here. Credibility already dropped to zero.

Unless you were sarcastic and this was a joke - then I applaud.

Get over it already, War and GW2 events are in the same lines like the other peep you quote said and the holy trinity is there... Only that this time there is no healer class, only healing templates that other classes have but you need a healer anyways...

So you were not joking.

Then you are just plain wrong. The trinity is definitely not there (just try to stand there and tank something nasty, even with a plate wearer, just for a laugh) and there are no dedicated healers. Even classes with healing "templates" cannot keep you alive if you don't dodge attacks, the heals are just too weak, they are support tools just like buffs, nothing more, not to mention they can't be spammed like dedicated healing classes in trinity based games can.

You don't even have a threat table in this game.

  tixylix

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 887

8/05/12 1:17:31 PM#133
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by tordurbar
Fact: When you complete a Dynamic Event that changes the map you are in a new instance of the map.

This is not true. At least not from my beta experience. All changes that happened during (and related to) dynamic events were "live" for everybody who came through the area, no phasing or instancing.

It doesn't change the map at all, it's basically a public quest from WAR.

  seridan

Novice Member

Joined: 5/26/12
Posts: 1211

8/05/12 1:17:34 PM#134
Originally posted by Pelagato
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato

yup, its the same thing all over again...

You have a bunch of classes, the same Tank, DPS, Healer trinity...

You can stop reading here. Credibility already dropped to zero.

Unless you were sarcastic and this was a joke - then I applaud.

[mod edit]

What the hell are you talking about, you dont know what trade about anything, the other guy you qoute is right and you are the only one who is Wrong here....

Get over it already, War and GW2 events are in the same lines like the other peep you quote said and the holy trinity is there... Only that this time there is no healer class, only healing templates that other classes have but you need a healer anyways...

Maybe the issue is that you believe to be something big when you are just another red shirt player hyping a game... Nothing new, nothing amazing... by November you are going to be hyping other game and complaining about GW2...

[mod edit]

By the way, i am not trolling or anything, I am simply giving you some of your own medicine...


War and GW2 are similar how? Give some examples of their similarity because they couldn't be any more different. Also, there IS no tank/healer/dps in the game, try playing a tank/dps/heal spec and see how it goes.... you will fail.

Seriously with the ignorant posts around here.

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  Pelagato

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 4/10/07
Posts: 652

Beware of Felidae on the hunt.

8/05/12 1:18:24 PM#135
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato

yup, its the same thing all over again...

You have a bunch of classes, the same Tank, DPS, Healer trinity...

You can stop reading here. Credibility already dropped to zero.

Unless you were sarcastic and this was a joke - then I applaud.

Get over it already, War and GW2 events are in the same lines like the other peep you quote said and the holy trinity is there... Only that this time there is no healer class, only healing templates that other classes have but you need a healer anyways...

So you were not joking.

Then you are just plain wrong. The trinity is definitely not there (just try to stand there and tank something nasty, even with a plate wearer, just for a laugh) and there are no dedicated healers. Even classes with healing "templates" cannot keep you alive if you don't dodge attacks, the heals are just too weak, they are support tools just like buffs, nothing more, not to mention they can't be spammed like dedicated healing classes in trinity based games can.

You don't even have a threat table in this game.


Wrong...??? Get out of the bubble pal, its the same old story all over again with a different make up... in the end it boils down into the same old story, Tanks, DPS and healers... if you have to dodge is another matter but is the same bull... You need someone at the healing department if you want to have a better chance of success, unless you find a way to get an auto dodge plug in up and running in yoru computer... Which I dont think anyone will....

Again... you are nothing important at all, just a red shirt so start packing that grandiosity feeling of you a wrong in the place it belongs...

  seridan

Novice Member

Joined: 5/26/12
Posts: 1211

8/05/12 1:19:35 PM#136
Originally posted by tixylix
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by tordurbar
Fact: When you complete a Dynamic Event that changes the map you are in a new instance of the map.

This is not true. At least not from my beta experience. All changes that happened during (and related to) dynamic events were "live" for everybody who came through the area, no phasing or instancing.

It doesn't change the map at all, it's basically a public quest from WAR.


Really? Then when the skriit cave collapsed and no player could enter it again, it didn't change the map? Or when the centaurs conquered the fortress? Or maybe when you had to protect an Asura gate but if you fail it actually EXPLODES and then you need to find materials to fix it?

Ignorance ignorance ignorance, these forums are so full lately

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  User Deleted
8/05/12 1:20:34 PM#137
Originally posted by tixylix
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by tordurbar
Fact: When you complete a Dynamic Event that changes the map you are in a new instance of the map.

This is not true. At least not from my beta experience. All changes that happened during (and related to) dynamic events were "live" for everybody who came through the area, no phasing or instancing.

It doesn't change the map at all, it's basically a public quest from WAR.


There are outpost invaded by the enemy if you fail, bridges destroyed if you fail, event chains that span over a whole area and change it durably, yet it doesn't change the map. Yep, sure man, if you say so.

  Xzen

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Joined: 5/01/06
Posts: 2547

A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.
- Seneca

8/05/12 1:21:22 PM#138
Originally posted by Pelagato
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato

yup, its the same thing all over again...

You have a bunch of classes, the same Tank, DPS, Healer trinity...

You can stop reading here. Credibility already dropped to zero.

Unless you were sarcastic and this was a joke - then I applaud.

Get over it already, War and GW2 events are in the same lines like the other peep you quote said and the holy trinity is there... Only that this time there is no healer class, only healing templates that other classes have but you need a healer anyways...

So you were not joking.

Then you are just plain wrong. The trinity is definitely not there (just try to stand there and tank something nasty, even with a plate wearer, just for a laugh) and there are no dedicated healers. Even classes with healing "templates" cannot keep you alive if you don't dodge attacks, the heals are just too weak, they are support tools just like buffs, nothing more, not to mention they can't be spammed like dedicated healing classes in trinity based games can.

You don't even have a threat table in this game.


Wrong...??? Get out of the bubble pal, its the same old story all over again with a different make up... in the end it boils down into the same old story, Tanks, DPS and healers... if you have to dodge is another matter but is the same bull... You need someone at the healing department if you want to have a better chance of success, unless you find a way to get an auto dodge plug in up and running in yoru computer... Which I dont think anyone will....

Again... you are nothing important at all, just a red shirt so start packing that grandiosity feeling of you a wrong in the place it belongs...

Even though I'm on the "soft trinity" side of the argument calling it "more of the same old" is flat out incorrect.

  Mithrandolir

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Joined: 2/28/05
Posts: 1485

Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft' might win, by fearing to attempt

8/05/12 1:23:38 PM#139
Originally posted by tixylix
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by tordurbar
Fact: When you complete a Dynamic Event that changes the map you are in a new instance of the map.

This is not true. At least not from my beta experience. All changes that happened during (and related to) dynamic events were "live" for everybody who came through the area, no phasing or instancing.

It doesn't change the map at all, it's basically a public quest from WAR.


Yes, it does change the map, and for everyone in the area. It's not a permanent change but it changes for the time being and for everyone. It's not like WAR's PQ's or Rifts events, aside from the origin of the concept. ArenaNet has advanced the system by a longshot in the "effect" category. Not saying everyone should like that, to each their own, but it's not the same.

 

 

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4074

GW2 socialist.

8/05/12 1:26:15 PM#140
Originally posted by Pelagato
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Pelagato

yup, its the same thing all over again...

You have a bunch of classes, the same Tank, DPS, Healer trinity...

You can stop reading here. Credibility already dropped to zero.

Unless you were sarcastic and this was a joke - then I applaud.

[mod edit]

What the hell are you talking about, you dont know what trade about anything, the other guy you qoute is right and you are the only one who is Wrong here....

Get over it already, War and GW2 events are in the same lines like the other peep you quote said and the holy trinity is there... Only that this time there is no healer class, only healing templates that other classes have but you need a healer anyways...

Maybe the issue is that you believe to be something big when you are just another red shirt player hyping a game... Nothing new, nothing amazing... by November you are going to be hyping other game and complaining about GW2...

[mod edit]

By the way, i am not trolling or anything, I am simply giving you some of your own medicine...

The Korrigan is usually well informed and polite, I don't see how you're giving him "some of his own medicine".  What you're doing is reacting badly to being wrong and having it pointed out.  Even more than that, you just hate that GW2 is getting a lot of good press and are retaliating because of it.  Are you that personally invested in how well the game does or how many people like it?  All the complaints about the game have dwindled only to be replaced by mad cackling and "You'll all see in a few months!  Then you'll be sorry!  Neener neener!"  You're acting immature at best, and that goes for anyone who uses that same BS logic.

As for you being wrong, there is no trinity of tanks healers and dps in GW2, I don't know what you expected to happen by posting something so flagrantly incorrect.  

Let me repeat that.  You're wrong.  Stop baiting people with misinformation.

no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled

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