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  Lord.Bachus

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8/05/12 12:19:09 AM#21
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

Both games are fantasy games, have levels and DEs.

Rifts DEs are however just random spawns that you need to kill while you quests while GW2s are complicated and instead of questing.

The games feels nothing the same to play, but there are some basic likenesses, but GW2 is closer to DaoC and AC than Rift. Not that close, but closer.

I am actually running through this gameworld with my old EQ feeling, the feeling of discovering things just heyound the next corner.

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  Sleepyfish

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8/05/12 12:30:25 AM#22
Originally posted by Mithrandolir

I like Rift alot, but after playing GW2 I couldn't go back to Rift. GW2 is in a whole different league really. I still like Trion and what they're doing over there, but it's like night and day for me.

Come on 8/25. This has been a hellish wait already and I wasn't even a big fan until the 3rd beta weekend recently. I can't imagine how you guys & gals feel who have been waiting years...


The funny thing is I had it written off as another WOW clone when I saw it was kind of steampunkish. I was really just waiting on World Of Darkness and was on the SWTOR forums before beta pondering if it would be total garbage or not. It was garbage and WOD is basically vaporware. Then I looked at the actual info on GW2 and realized it was more like Chronicles of Spellborn than WOW, at least as far as some mechanics and psudo similarities in story telling.  It magnifies what I saw in TCOS with sheer magnitude however, Black Citadel is #$%@#% Gigantic, is so bad ass it makes you proud to be a Charr.

 

Rift is just a its core another gear grind. It has different ways to grind that gear but its all the same nerve wracking forced progression crap I have learned to hate.

  Sleepyfish

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8/05/12 12:33:43 AM#23
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

I am actually running through this gameworld with my old EQ feeling, the feeling of discovering things just heyound the next corner.

Or an old LP text based mud from back in the day with story driven encouters. Funny I can still classify mmorpgs on which type of mud they remind me of. WOW clones are all basically Diki/ROM base mud code ressurection alter gear grinds. GW2 is getting closer to something like Batmud.. well at least how I remember batmud from over 10 years ago.

  Butregenyo

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8/05/12 12:44:15 AM#24

World of GW2 (Tyria) is much much more alive. Everytime you log in, you find yourself doing something fun and unique, gaining experience for every little thing you accomplish, the amount of detail the world has is crazy. 

Game really gives you the feeling that you need do a quest not because your character needs to get bulky but because you are really needed as a hero. And you dont even have to read a giant wall of text for each quest to get the feeling. (Rift loses this touch really quick)

Also, thanks to the sidekicking system (it adjusts your level down when you go into a lower level area) other zones you haven't explored do not lose their fun as you cannot steamroll the creatures. (the low level content you miss while leveling loses its meaning in rift, which is a big minus for people who doesnt like alts)

PvP is really balanced which is a huge advantage and have many variations for both casual and competitive players. (god the forums of rift... are they still crying about rogue buffs? :P)

Rifts world felt cheesy after the first zone, quests were reptitive and felt grindy. Rift has great polish but the content through the max level content is so shallow and feels like a filler episode of an anime. GW2's endgame really does start at level 2. 

  Jimmydean

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8/05/12 12:46:30 AM#25
Games are similar actually. Rift has a better character builder with the soul system, and a more typical end-game raid structure.   GW2 has WvWvW and focuses more on you exploring the world.
  Cromica

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8/05/12 12:57:53 AM#26
Originally posted by Painlezz

LoL... Haven't checked MMORPG for a few days, first thread I see is spam of GW2 fanboys.

 

Can this game just get released already so we can all watch and see how it isn't actually Jesus and will likely not only fall very short of WoW numbers but quickly die off like every single other MMO release since wow?

Its not Jesus, its the best mmo that has come out since vanilla WoW (IMO).

 

It took WoW years to reach the subs it has and to expect a B2P game to get there on release is idiotic.

 

Tell me how a game that has no monthly fee and is better than every other mmo out there is going to die off?

  eyelolled

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8/05/12 12:59:28 AM#27
yeah, GW2 is basically a slightly improved Rift, and a corvette is basically a slightly improved skateboard. 

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  Distopia

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8/05/12 1:16:56 AM#28
Originally posted by Cromica

Tell me how a game that has no monthly fee and is better than every other mmo out there is going to die off?

Better than every MMO out there? That's quite a bold statement to make.

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  Mithrandolir

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8/05/12 1:17:10 AM#29
Originally posted by eyelolled
yeah, GW2 is basically a slightly improved Rift, and a corvette is basically a slightly improved skateboard. 


actually...

 

  Normike

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8/05/12 1:30:55 AM#30
Originally posted by Sleepyfish
Originally posted by Mithrandolir

I like Rift alot, but after playing GW2 I couldn't go back to Rift. GW2 is in a whole different league really. I still like Trion and what they're doing over there, but it's like night and day for me.

Come on 8/25. This has been a hellish wait already and I wasn't even a big fan until the 3rd beta weekend recently. I can't imagine how you guys & gals feel who have been waiting years...


The funny thing is I had it written off as another WOW clone when I saw it was kind of steampunkish. I was really just waiting on World Of Darkness and was on the SWTOR forums before beta pondering if it would be total garbage or not. It was garbage and WOD is basically vaporware. Then I looked at the actual info on GW2 and realized it was more like Chronicles of Spellborn than WOW, at least as far as some mechanics and psudo similarities in story telling.  It magnifies what I saw in TCOS with sheer magnitude however, Black Citadel is #$%@#% Gigantic, is so bad ass it makes you proud to be a Charr.

 

Rift is just a its core another gear grind. It has different ways to grind that gear but its all the same nerve wracking forced progression crap I have learned to hate.

True. GW2 is the only MMO where I've actually been lost in the cities. I've given up on figuring out the Charr and Asura cities, for now... And GW2 also has dynamic events. Scripted, yes, but they have success and failure stages are complex enough to make the game world feel alive.

 

On first impression of the game I thought GW2s pvp was it's real strength. But the dynamic events really steal the spotlight. Also liking the fact of very little gear grind for stats. The real achievement in this game is actually the player's skill. Achievement isn't bloated stats from gear that let you crush players who don't have that gear. Kinda nice.

 

World of Darkness... My interest is over 9000. The makers of space combat MMO Eve Online, after acquiring  White Wolf, are going to mash-up the MMO genre with the Vampire genre. It's got me on the edge of my seat. It's either gonna be amazing or an awesome train wreck. Hoping for the first option. 

  Eir_S

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8/05/12 1:31:26 AM#31
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

No, it's an incorrect assessment.  Rift is more WoW than GW2.  

As for the voice acting, the only voice overs I had a problem with, sadly, were the Norn, but they have improved them since the first beta - replacing dialog and actors.  The other races are great, especially the Asura, which surprised me.  Did Rift even have voices?  I don't remember.

  Lobotomist

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8/05/12 1:38:45 AM#32
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

If you playing MMO for a story , you are better off with single player games. Last time MMO was based of "fourth pillar" (LOL) it didnt go that well.

  william0532

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8/05/12 1:43:57 AM#33
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 

If you playing MMO for a story , you are better off with single player games. Last time MMO was based of "fourth pillar" (LOL) it didnt go that well.

Thanks to TOR I'm hoping no mmo ever focuses on voice lol. I wish I could have been in that discussion room when bioware was spitballing the game before they made it. Daniel Erickson "Hey guys, do we want Voice Overs for everything, or do we want our game to have everything else?" to which Vogel responds "Yeah, cut all the stuff, and put the voice in, we can add a game in the expansion"

  eyelolled

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8/05/12 1:55:09 AM#34
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by eyelolled
yeah, GW2 is basically a slightly improved Rift, and a corvette is basically a slightly improved skateboard. 


actually...

 

it just doesn't matter what a person says anymore, there is a meme for it!  lol

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  Hedeon

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8/05/12 2:06:31 AM#35
GW2 is like RIFT, before they changed the name to RIFT and decided to not spend much energy on "dynamic" content
  seridan

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8/05/12 2:08:16 AM#36
Originally posted by Tutu2
Is this a fair assessment? I keep hearing the story and voice acting is somewhat lucklustre, which is concerning me also. 


Nope it's not a fair assessment. Guild Wars 2 is completely different to Rift

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  Cromica

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8/05/12 2:26:59 AM#37
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Cromica

Tell me how a game that has no monthly fee and is better than every other mmo out there is going to die off?

Better than every MMO out there? That's quite a bold statement to make.

For me it is and thats all I care about

  Mothanos

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8/05/12 2:34:19 AM#38

I played Rift.....for 25 minutes...

Warhammer feeling all over again.

 

Played GW2 16 hours a day in BWE3, sucked that it ended so early :(

 

Seriously iam not overreacting when i say They are totaly diffrent games but GW2 is just that much more fun to play.

I tried all classes except the engineer, and they all feel awesome from the get go.

 

 

Still this is my personal vieuw, what i like doesnt havto mean you like it :)

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  cronius77

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8/05/12 2:39:57 AM#39
Originally posted by Mothanos

I played Rift.....for 25 minutes...

Warhammer feeling all over again.

 

Played GW2 16 hours a day in BWE3, sucked that it ended so early :(

 

Seriously iam not overreacting when i say They are totaly diffrent games but GW2 is just that much more fun to play.

I tried all classes except the engineer, and they all feel awesome from the get go.

 

 

Still this is my personal vieuw, what i like doesnt havto mean you like it :)


this is kinda cool you say it like that though as i feel honestly like guild wars 2 is what mythic and warhammer online was aiming for before mark jacobs butchered war into a pvp wow clone. When I first played GW2 i felt the systems were so similiar to warhammer the first time i played it but in warhammer everything just fell so short from being really good. I guess its me coming from DAOC to WAR for over two years that makes me have that feeling.

  marganculos

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8/05/12 2:41:29 AM#40

what..?... no...

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