Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by delete5230

Damm............What is wrong with SOE, they need their head examined trying to release F2P a week before GW2, and a month before WoW's Panda thing.

A week into it, this mmo will forever clear out and be dead for ever !..........All will be left is the people that don't have any money and cheap people.

 

As I always say SOE does not deserve to own Vanguard.  The law should step in and take it away from them.  A good mmo in the wrong hands !!!!

What difference would it make when they release it?

a) Vanguard definitely does not cater to the same group of players as WoW and GW2. As it is a hard core game (which rules out WoW players) and completely progression based (which rules GW2 players out).

b) They had to release it some time, if they released it AFTER these games then even less people would try it out. At least releasing it first means they will get people in the door, and some may stay.

Well i played vanguard for about a year and then subbed every now and again, and im very excited for guild wars 2 . So i guess that puts a dent in your little theory that people who like guild wars 2 don't like vanguard.

Oh you got me! Wait.. still not the same demographic.

People who are tired of gear progression will stay with GW2. People who are getting GW2 out of curiousity but still like and enjoy progression will probably be looking for something new within a month or two. If GW2 floats your boat, you wont be back playing Vanguard. You may have previously played Vanguard, doesn't mean you are its current demographic if you have changed to the gear agnostic style of thinking.

Look at all the 'What is the endgame in GW2' threads popping up. Those are Vanguards target audience. Not GW2s.

Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by evilastro

a) Vanguard definitely does not cater to the same group of players as WoW and GW2. As it is a hard core game (which rules out WoW players) and completely progression based (which rules GW2 players out).

Well i played vanguard for about a year and then subbed every now and again, and im very excited for guild wars 2 . So i guess that puts a dent in your little theory that people who like guild wars 2 don't like vanguard.

I agree, a player can enjoy many styles - Ive been all over the map w mmos too

but evilastro may be correct that Vanguard's primary audience will be a different

Vanguards original intended audience was the EQ Classic Player  (Classic thru Velious)

post by Aradune

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/showthread.php?p=424297

Does our core gamer = WoW's casual gamer? I don't have their internal data, obviously, but I doubt it. Our core gamer is someone who plays 2-4 hours every night, occasionally spending a full day or so raiding, but who is normally focussed on challenging group oriented gameplay. The casual and raid gamer will indeed have content for them, but the core gamer is our focus. So also is creating a more challenging and longer term game -- a home.

I do know the average EQ player earlier on (launch->Velious) and it is their playstyle and time commitment whom we are targeting primarily.

Originally posted by Silverbarr

Originally posted by ste2000
Like every SOE F2P game is more Try Before you buy than free to play. So sadly I won't be playing it

Actually if you check out the F2P model they have adopted it seems that there are minimal restriction, for example you can play any race/class combo, level to cap, use all items....

 

I think it's probably one of the best F2P models there currently.

 

M

really... like with eq2 free to play your way.. pass!

Originally posted by Everket
You do realize Eq2 is not Vanguard? And does not operate with the same f2p model? Why do people even bother commenting when they don't know what their talking about, if you're not bothered to read up about vanguard and it's f2p model why even comment on it? And people who already have made up their mind even before reading what the f2p model is all about? God why.

eq2 = soe = vanguard
there is no f2p. just an extended trial, not limited on time but on drastic ingame elements.

only very few classes are available, just a handful of races, strong limitations on items, gold and lots lots more... it's rude to even use the term f2p. but then again it's soe, what else to expect.