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  TruthXHurts

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8/03/12 3:56:10 PM#61
Originally posted by wowclones
Originally posted by MikeB

"called a shill or a plant "

lol, must have missed those. couldn't imagine, "TOR SUCKS, YOU ARE A DAMN FERN!", "YOU SHUT UP YOU ROSE!" :)

A plant not as in a sunlight loving ground anchored lifeform, but as in a planted employee who hypes up a game.

"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  daltanious

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Joined: 4/19/08
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8/04/12 1:51:07 AM#62
I know, I know ... I'm repeating myself in this forums around SWTOR ... but fact for me remain, SWTOR is for my taste best game of all times and all genres. Starting with C64/Spectrum games to nowadays. And besides SWTOR for now there are only 2 other games I can immagine myself to play for lifetime, Rift and Wow. As for GW2 goes, original GW waslost from my radar completely after aprox 1 month of gameplay. But GW2 looks much more promising. I'm also getting my grip on TWS. As long as I have all this good choices to alternate between I'm happy. But for sure hope SWTOR stays for ever and impoves even more despite being already top game. With top I mean overall score I concentrate in single word: fun. Game is fun or is not. Can be dozen of reasons against or pro, but at the end I judge if it is fun or not to play. An fun games are for me SWTOR, WOW, Rift, TSW, .... Very non fun various Rappelz, Aion (despite I liked it for a month or so), .....
  goemoe

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 168

8/04/12 2:17:04 AM#63
Originally posted by Ahnog

1. As a good mmo should, the game provides for social interaction.

2. The class stories are great.

3. Leveling is fun.

4. There is a ton of things to do at 50.

5. The dailies do what dailies should do--provide a way to make the credits you need to play the game. Doing any one of the planets will give you enough for basic game play. The great thing is they don't have to be dailies.

6. Crafting is a blast and is really useful leveling up and providing a starting point for the end game.

7. The Instances and Operations are well made. Some complain they are to easy, but remember the target audience is not hardcore mmoers who hit 50 in a day, but Star Wars fans.

8. Heroics while leveling up prepares one for the end game, and provide plenty of opportunity for social interaction while leveling.

9. Pursuing datacroms is a good challenge for 50s.

10. Playing the GTN is fun and profitible.

11. There are plenty of opportunities for role playing.

12. While the world pvp didn't work out so well, the instanced pvp zones are great.

Overall, a great and exciting game.

1. Ok

2. They are good, not great

3. No, it's boring after the first

4. Lots of boring repetitive stuff

5. Dailies suck

6. SWTOR has the worst crafting system ever.

7. Ok

8. Ok

9. Hm.. not so entertaining, if you ask me

10.  Average

11. As in every game, not more.

12. As in about every MMO with instanced PvP

 

It is pretty average, not more. Once you're through, you're done. 6/10 Points overall.

  Serelisk

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Joined: 8/02/11
Posts: 845

8/04/12 2:45:04 AM#64
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Originally posted by wowclones
Originally posted by MikeB

"called a shill or a plant "

lol, must have missed those. couldn't imagine, "TOR SUCKS, YOU ARE A DAMN FERN!", "YOU SHUT UP YOU ROSE!" :)

A plant not as in a sunlight loving ground anchored lifeform, but as in a planted employee who hypes up a game.

I learned something today. :o

  Skuz

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Joined: 12/25/08
Posts: 1041

"If you can''t laugh at yourself there''s always someone around to show you how it''s done!"

8/04/12 7:08:13 AM#65

I used to sit & play armchair critic too, now I just decide whether I sub or not on if I find the game fun.

I find SWTOR fun, so I'll stay subbed & keep playing, on my 5th char on it's way to L50 & my "plan" to enjoy the game to the max has worked out quite well, only fly in the ointment is that there are not 16 character slots per server.

I'm also enjoying The Secret World & while I've bought GW2 I'm not very enamoured of it so far, it's playstyle feels sloppy, story is poorly written, classes lack any sense of a role - hoping that gets better as the game progresses.

Seems along with the OP I am in the minority among the rabid sandbox crew that habitate these forums, but then I don't remember this site ever being referred to as the home of Sandbox fans, haters of all other MMO's.

  User Deleted
8/04/12 9:23:30 AM#66
I'll wait for it to go F2P
  WarriorNeeds

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Joined: 7/31/12
Posts: 36

8/04/12 9:28:42 AM#67
It's as good of a game as any that have come out in the last several years.  Perfect? no.  But then again, nothing is perfect.
  rdrakken

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Joined: 6/15/12
Posts: 435

8/04/12 9:32:04 AM#68
Originally posted by Ahnog

I don't mind holding a minority opinion; majorty opinions are not necessarily correct ones.

 I don't mind holding a majority opinion; minority opinions are not necessarily correct ones.

amidoinitright?

  gravesworn

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Joined: 6/15/12
Posts: 325

8/04/12 9:42:38 AM#69
I really wanted this game to be good. I love star wars and kotor was one of the few rpgs i played all the way through. I just happen to want a quality game for my money. I personally didnt think it was quality. For those still playing. Good for you. I would kill someone in front of their own mama for a good mmorpg. And if anyone testified against me i would gouge out their eyes. I am not killing anyone over tor. Lol.
  waveslayer

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Joined: 8/07/03
Posts: 354

8/04/12 10:26:45 AM#70

I recently tried the 1 to 15 trial and enjoyed the game, granted I am a casual gamer and only got to 15. Was going to buy the game, but between trying it and payday the F2P anouncemant came and now I will wait, dont wanna pay now and it be free in a few months.

Becuase of these forums I was really expecting it to be aweful. I can understand someone prefering a more realistic approach in the graphics as apposed to the cartoon style that Bioware went with, but there is no basis for the claim that the game isnt quality, and yes the play style was very much WoW and not SWG but to me thats not a bad thing, I enjoy the line of games that are derived from the MMoRPG model started by Everquest.

Godz of War I call Thee

  sammandar

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Joined: 8/03/12
Posts: 531

8/04/12 10:29:53 AM#71
Originally posted by ronpack
I'll wait for it to go F2P


Same here. I bought the game and played it for a while after release; I was gratly dissapointed. I used to think of the game as a failure but then I realized that more than anything, SWTOR is a huge dissapointment. I'll wait till it goes to "fremium" and then check it out again; though I have no intention of spending a single penny on the game.

  minime2

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Joined: 11/06/07
Posts: 116

8/04/12 10:33:51 AM#72
Yeah op swtor is so graet 90%+ of playerbase quit including me wake up .
  Trionicus

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Joined: 1/31/12
Posts: 488

8/04/12 10:37:16 AM#73
If it's F2P and a friend begs me to play then I would consider it. That still won't get me inside the cash shop lol.
  klinnear

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Joined: 9/17/11
Posts: 6

8/04/12 10:41:59 AM#74
Originally posted by Ahnog
Originally posted by SlickShoes

All i see is the tired old list of MMO "features". Quests, dungeons, auction house, daily quests (yuck) and broken PvP.

Add in the fact that SWTORs world is full of corridors, loading screens and invisble walls, then you have one of the most uninspired and depressing MMO's ever to be released.

 

You see correctly that it has the traditional mmo features. You're tired of playing mmos and want something different. SWTOR producers wanted a game that would appeal to Star Wars fans, and that's what it is. Without a subscription Star Wars fans will pour into the game and be exposed to the mmo world. FTP is the way to go!


I am a huge Star Wars Fan.  Played the games, read most of the books, etc.  I bored of SWTOR and cancelled my sub.  It wasn't enough to be a Star Wars fan, the game just wasn't that great.  I really really wanted it to be.  Since its going free to play I thought about playing just for the odd PvP and Star Wars fix, but then I realized that this would be supporting this style of MMO and I can no longer do that.

  Christooo

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Joined: 3/16/12
Posts: 85

8/04/12 10:50:03 AM#75

As an avid fan of MMORPG's, SWTOR has many great features that I heartfully enjoy and some that i find incredibly annoying. First, its strengths, The class story is absolutely amazing if you can get passed the obvious linearity of it. The fully voiced questing system is absolutely amazing and I can honestly say that I have payed more attention to the quests that I have completed than in any other MMORPG I've played (looking at World of Warcraft - open quest, accept, do, claim reward whilst not paying attention to the storyline). The grouping, yes I said Grouping, I can't believe how many times in the short amount of time I have played SWTOR have i actively looked for a group to complete heriocs, just to get social points and sweet lootzz. Crafting system, I can honestly say that I enjoy a crafting system where I am constantly not having to scan my surrondings for materials. All I have to do is send away my companion to do it and I can focus on questing and still level my skills.

As for the negative points: Combat, Loading times, lack of environment within the world, repetitive, PVP, bugs. Need I say more?

  NightBandit

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Posts: 778

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8/04/12 10:59:44 AM#76
Originally posted by Ahnog

1. As a good mmo should, the game provides for social interaction.

2. The class stories are great.

3. Leveling is fun.

4. There is a ton of things to do at 50.

5. The dailies do what dailies should do--provide a way to make the credits you need to play the game. Doing any one of the planets will give you enough for basic game play. The great thing is they don't have to be dailies.

6. Crafting is a blast and is really useful leveling up and providing a starting point for the end game.

7. The Instances and Operations are well made. Some complain they are to easy, but remember the target audience is not hardcore mmoers who hit 50 in a day, but Star Wars fans.

8. Heroics while leveling up prepares one for the end game, and provide plenty of opportunity for social interaction while leveling.

9. Pursuing datacroms is a good challenge for 50s.

10. Playing the GTN is fun and profitible.

11. There are plenty of opportunities for role playing.

12. While the world pvp didn't work out so well, the instanced pvp zones are great.

Overall, a great and exciting game.

 Come back in a few weeks once you have flown a few space missions daily and then tell us the quests are great and that's just the start of many things i could lay on you here but I'll not bore the other posters to much as I'm a top chap.

Bandit

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8/04/12 11:09:57 AM#77

It's fine to have a positive opinion of SWToR, but you're just listing off basic MMO features and nothing special or unique. I am a Star Wars fan, and I loved BioWare's original SW: KotOR, and honestly, this game is no way appeals to me as a Star Wars or KotOR fan because everything appears to have been developed with a bare minimum of quality -- except of course, for the voice acting. The combat animations aren't too bad, either, but unfortunately a bland, uninspired combat system just happened to be attached there. 

Actually "uninspired" might be the best term for how to describe the game. It's incredibly average, and I truly think they believed focusing mainly on the voice work and less on the rest was somehow going to be fine because the Star Wars name would urge initial sales and keep people playing.

Actually "shallow" might be another term, because they basically copied and pasted a generic combat system, linear progression system, gear acquisition systems like tokens, etc.

The only truly unique features of this game are the Companions, in the sense of how you interact with them(as opposed to JUST pets that follow you around. They aren't that bad, but I didn't care for many of them), and the 100% voiced -- and the voicing was way overdone to the point it couldn't be appreciated like it should have.

 

  GameMonger71

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9/05/12 9:55:10 AM#78

I am glad I found this post.  I played a bit of SWTOR beta and then I avoided buying the game after release due to all the venom and hate that seemed to pour out.  I waited for the free trial to come out to see if any of the fun I had in beta was still there (I have been burned by too many MMOs by buying too quickly and then play for only a week or two).  When I picked TOR back up, it was still fun...not great but fun.  I think what also helped fine tune my opinion on SWTOR was an intervening event...my participation in late GW2 beta events. 

I know it is dangerous to come on these forums and dare to state one's opinion on game x and game y, but I am ready to be flamed.  Here are my honest opinions:

First GW2...I do not know it just felt pretty generic and did not grab me.  The stories were okay, the combat was okay, the graphics were good, but I did not feel any hook.  It is a good game, but well short of some miracle game.  I felt more excited when I first played DAOC, EQ2, Shadowbane and to a more limited extent Rift.  The game is fine, it just did not hook me as anything special.  I think this has a lot to do with it being yet another fantasy MMO.

As for SWTOR, I really enjoy the stories.  I am sure the fun will run out, but right now I enjoy working through each of the 6 stories for my characters (no interest in the sith warrior and inquisitor) .  If I enjoy 40-50 levels of story on each character then that is great....for me and my casual play pace that will take years :).  SWTOR is not perfect, I would like to see many changes including some non-humanoid races (some more alien looks if you will), edgier options for the jedi storylines - the no passion thing is shallow and cardboard, earlier trooper armor, optional companion use, open world PvP that works) but overall SWTOR is a good game that gets my attention. 

Is SWTOR better than GW2...apples and oranges.  I think some of the "it factor" for me is the Star Wars setting. I am not a hardcore Star Wars fan, but I was a young kid in the 70s when they first came out.  I really think it is more the sci fi setting than pure Star Wars.  Apparently there are only so many dragons and fantasy monsters and spells in gthe imagination deck and I personally have had my fill.  Another fantasy MMO just seems to be more of the same, at least sci fi is a bit different.

Overall, I believe that GW2 has received too much hype for what it is and SWTOR has taken too much heat for what it is not.  SWTOR is a decent game, I personally believe a good game.  I think that F2P will help it out, but as always with an IP of this magnitude many people will hate it immensely because it does not meet their vision of Star Wars.  I was not looking for a perfect Star Wars rendition in a box, so it is easier for me to enjoy the game from a pure game perspective. 

I often wonder if SWTOR had been re-skinned and released in a new sci-fi setting instead of the Star Wars setting if it would have been received more positively.

Thanks!

  Draron

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9/27/12 12:10:36 AM#79
Originally posted by GameMonger71

I am glad I found this post.  I played a bit of SWTOR beta and then I avoided buying the game after release due to all the venom and hate that seemed to pour out.  I waited for the free trial to come out to see if any of the fun I had in beta was still there (I have been burned by too many MMOs by buying too quickly and then play for only a week or two).  When I picked TOR back up, it was still fun...not great but fun.  I think what also helped fine tune my opinion on SWTOR was an intervening event...my participation in late GW2 beta events. 

I know it is dangerous to come on these forums and dare to state one's opinion on game x and game y, but I am ready to be flamed.  Here are my honest opinions:

First GW2...I do not know it just felt pretty generic and did not grab me.  The stories were okay, the combat was okay, the graphics were good, but I did not feel any hook.  It is a good game, but well short of some miracle game.  I felt more excited when I first played DAOC, EQ2, Shadowbane and to a more limited extent Rift.  The game is fine, it just did not hook me as anything special.  I think this has a lot to do with it being yet another fantasy MMO.

As for SWTOR, I really enjoy the stories.  I am sure the fun will run out, but right now I enjoy working through each of the 6 stories for my characters (no interest in the sith warrior and inquisitor) .  If I enjoy 40-50 levels of story on each character then that is great....for me and my casual play pace that will take years :).  SWTOR is not perfect, I would like to see many changes including some non-humanoid races (some more alien looks if you will), edgier options for the jedi storylines - the no passion thing is shallow and cardboard, earlier trooper armor, optional companion use, open world PvP that works) but overall SWTOR is a good game that gets my attention. 

Is SWTOR better than GW2...apples and oranges.  I think some of the "it factor" for me is the Star Wars setting. I am not a hardcore Star Wars fan, but I was a young kid in the 70s when they first came out.  I really think it is more the sci fi setting than pure Star Wars.  Apparently there are only so many dragons and fantasy monsters and spells in gthe imagination deck and I personally have had my fill.  Another fantasy MMO just seems to be more of the same, at least sci fi is a bit different.

Overall, I believe that GW2 has received too much hype for what it is and SWTOR has taken too much heat for what it is not.  SWTOR is a decent game, I personally believe a good game.  I think that F2P will help it out, but as always with an IP of this magnitude many people will hate it immensely because it does not meet their vision of Star Wars.  I was not looking for a perfect Star Wars rendition in a box, so it is easier for me to enjoy the game from a pure game perspective. 

I often wonder if SWTOR had been re-skinned and released in a new sci-fi setting instead of the Star Wars setting if it would have been received more positively.

Thanks!

Agree with everything said.

  MuratReis

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9/27/12 1:50:43 AM#80

I think that the majority of MMO players are reactionary and impatient. This makes sense, though, as the millions of new MMO players expect a game to finished once it is released and everything to be handed to them. The old MMO crowd is much smaller and understand that MMOs need time to grow and time to experience. SWTOR has a lot to offer, but most of it will take months if not years to get. The old crowd enjoys MMOs not for the content but for the MMO experience, that is. I think SWTOR's biggest fault is that they were unable to satisfy the new MMO crowd and there just aren't enough old timers to support the game (considering many of them play other games). 

Personally, I enjot SWTOR and could care less about content. Enjoying the game with my friends and learning about how the game will develop  is enought for me.

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