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8/01/12 12:21:34 PM#2
Originally posted by Xiaoki Actually I think he defended the decision to transition to the hybrid payment system quite well.
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Alot
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Joined: 1/04/11
Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party |
8/01/12 12:23:40 PM#3
The interviewer doesn't really seem to buy it, but then again, who would? |
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Weretigar
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Joined: 10/15/10
If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV. |
8/01/12 12:25:07 PM#4
The fans buy it |
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Alot
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Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party |
8/01/12 12:27:38 PM#5
We'll see how many fans remain at the end of Q3 of this year. : ) |
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8/01/12 12:28:52 PM#6
EA is still going forward blind. When SWTOR was made, it was made for an MMO audience yet were making a game that wasnt targetting most of them, hence its population drop off...now they are going F2P, making a shop to target the F2P audience...yet are not making it in a way to target them. The most successful F2P games, with the MOST F2P players...dont like Paytraps. Just look at the populations of the paytraps...they dont come even REMOTELY close to the actual F2P games. The paytrap shops blow massive batha **** compared to the F2P shops that are filled with this thing called MICROtransactions....something not one single paytrap shop has...transactions yes, MICROtransactions, no. Once again, SWTOR will miss its target audience. People will go, play part of the game for free, spend next to nothing.
Corporations that grow too large need to stay out of the interactive industries where you are required to be in TOUCH with your audience...they just cant do it. |
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erictlewis
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Joined: 11/08/08
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. |
8/01/12 12:30:14 PM#7
He tried to sidestep the real question. Sure you got to bring the payers in, but once they are in you got to keep them. Something I don't see them doing. This bs that 40% said it was the sub, what about the 60% I wonder what they had to say. Yea it is all double speak at this point. |
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8/01/12 12:30:54 PM#8
Originally posted by Weretigar One way or another |
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erictlewis
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Joined: 11/08/08
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. |
8/01/12 12:31:32 PM#9
Originally posted by Weretigar Actually no they don't have you been on the official swtor forums today. There have been several threads already that has been locked and some that totaly disapeared.
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NBlitz
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Joined: 2/16/08
"Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face." |
8/01/12 12:32:07 PM#10
At about 2:05 he corrected himself. He was going to say "we're less than a hundred...uhhhh...a million subscribers"
Hmm...the mind inquires as to this little slip of the tongue.  |
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8/01/12 12:41:20 PM#11
Originally posted by erictlewis When has it not been? Seriously EA have spun it since T-10, some of 'it' verging on complete untruth. |
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Weretigar
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Joined: 10/15/10
If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV. |
8/01/12 12:42:48 PM#12
I have last night I watched over 100 threads get closed and SWTOR to already state F2P players wont be allowed forum access for technical support. |
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Alot
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Joined: 1/04/11
Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party |
8/01/12 12:45:41 PM#13
What the hell, are you serious? If you are then that would be another master move by EA. It doesn't seem like there'll be enough F2P-Lifeboats to save the TORtanic. |
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8/01/12 12:47:59 PM#14
Originally posted by erictlewis Really? You can't figure this one out? I think it's pretty safe to say that the other 60% just simply did not like the game and would not return unless it was seriously revamped. So EA's approach is to cater to the 40% who had the stance of "yes i like the game, but i don't want to pay $15 a month for it". It's pretty obvious that doing away with the monthly subscription is a much easier route than trying to revamp the game for a player base that doesn't know what it wants. You're welcome for that clarification.
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Weretigar
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Joined: 10/15/10
If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV. |
8/01/12 12:48:45 PM#15
Originally posted by Alot
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8/01/12 12:49:35 PM#16
Originally posted by Alot Yes, one of the mods(or whatever they are called over there) posted that the F2P crowd wouldn't have access to forums. That isn't going to last long once the F2P crowd hit, and BW/EA realize why they can't keep ANYBODY in their game lol :) |
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8/01/12 12:51:53 PM#17
Originally posted by Xiaoki hmmm, except that he didn't do anything other than answer the questions according to what other game companies were also doing. If anything it looked worse for social games. Are you saying that takinga p2p game to f2p and growing the playerbase so that the revenue model is more about how much each person within that huge volume of people spends is not something that game companies that desire more money are doing? Regardless of SWToR's shortcomings that's pretty much all he said. |
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Alot
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Joined: 1/04/11
Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party |
8/01/12 12:53:16 PM#18
^^ A facepalm, or even a double facepalm, won't suffice. Headbanging is required to proceed:
*Proceeds* |
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Kyleran
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Joined: 9/13/06
Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV |
8/01/12 12:55:44 PM#19
Originally posted by Weretigar Hmm, looks like more examples of EA not really understanding what they are doing.
"What gamers want ... is new game play patterns different from what they've experienced before" - Axehilt |
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8/01/12 1:02:08 PM#20
I love the whole "wtf" vibe that permeates when sane individuals are confronted with bullshit spinners. |
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