Originally posted by GamerUntouch

It's funny because the game's actually pay2win now.

F2P players can't do operations, which are raids.

 

Raids give the best gear. if you don't pay you can't get the best gear.

Just wait for their cash shop.  It is EA after all. Remember Swtor is getting one, freemium style.

Not initial cash shop,  wait for what will be in it 6+ months after freemium transition.  (or earlier if they really want / need some of those 200 mln $ invested money back).

even as F2P they will have a hard time with so many better games out there and new ones coming out.

Originally posted by gasperk

even as F2P they will have a hard time with so many better games out there and new ones coming out.

true, at least they can be competitive now though.

Originally posted by GamerUntouch

Originally posted by bcbully

7 months is that a record?

APB lasted like a month.

Eh, yeah, but that wasn't really an mmorpg. It was more like a mutliplayer FPS. Sort of a different vein.

They must have lost hundreds of thousands be down to less than 250k subs now for them to do this so quickly. Server consolidations, free to play. The game didn't even make it a year, before it sank, ouch.

I think they will find their income from this game will increase.  Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.

Originally posted by Fendel84M

Not that I hate the game, it wasnt for me...buuut...anyone notice the game doesn't seem to have any hardcore defenders on this site anymore?

I know a couple and I've noticed slowly that they have begun to recede in their convictions about just how bad this game is. it's not new i've seen it before on this website, the people who are fanatics without being objective about the reality of the situation usually suddenly become more objective later on after being crazed about a title. 

On this site tho I've noticed people have completely disappeared when it comes to this subject because despite popular belief, GW2 is not the most hyped game ever, it was SWTOR that definitely started the trend (and i hate the hyped word as it's usually used wrong) in this case, SWTOR devs directly did hype their game by making it seem like one would start their game and notice right away that what they would be doing while playing is completely new and that it was the best gaming experience.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I think they will find their income from this game will increase.  Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.

That depends on people playing it.

F2P is the future even in the west. Sorry for those of you who don't want to admit this, but it's true. Subscriptions are dying, people don't want an added bill these days when they have no guarantee of tangible content or material for their money each month. New games launching are going right off the bat with F2P or B2P approaches, or mixes of both. It's just what it is, I'm excited to see the more aggressive approach to content.

HAHA....

scnr *g*

Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW.

That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.

I miss SWG ...

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I think they will find their income from this game will increase.  Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.

But what is there that anyone would spend $ on? The character perks? Legacy gear? Pets? Different colored speeders or light sabers? None of those are even worth spending credits on. There isn't enough in the game that is desireable. It's just too simple of a game.

Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by Phaleg31

Now, can Daniel Erickson and the game director, forgot the name, PLEASE BE FIRED NOW?

 

WOULD SOMEONE OVER THERE DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE THOSE TWO KNUCKLEHEADS THEIR WALKING PAPERS?

 

 

James Ohlen that buggeyed egotistical imbecile.

This Guy

So yea, totally called this (albeit a couple months over my estimation as I predicted it'd go F2P by the end of June) prior to SWTOR's release, and I was called a troll / hater?

SWTOR is what it is, a very bad singleplayer game with COOP elements. Sorry, it's not an MMO, and it most certainly isn't "Fun".

What a waste of the StarWars IP.

Also, internal discussion @ LA is that if SWTOR's license is canceled there will NEVER be another StarWars MMO. Ever.... :(

They plan to shoot primarily for Console only games, or Social gaming on Mobile products. Such a pathetic company :I.

SWTOR is not going free to play, there is no need to panic.

I guess i´ll be back someday when it goes FTP so i can fihish leveling my main left at lvl 47....

I was bored before reaching lvl cap..

I guess 3 more lvls won´t be that painfull without having to pay a sub again....

lol

What pisses me off is this:

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When you decide to let your subscription lapse, your account will automatically be downgraded and it will operate under the Free player restrictions. You will need to choose what items to keep with you within the restriction levels of the free access. Furthermore, you will be able to see, but not use, your excess credits, inventory slots, bank tabs, and extra characters.

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Another one of those foolish half-assed decisions. They want to go the F2P route of LOTRO and other games, but if you want to drop out of the sub for a time you don't actually get to KEEP the stuff you've made over months of play?

Way to piss off your long-standing customers.

The game should at least have a free->silver->gold / premium acount type, with silver being for people who have paid for something in the game and who get to keep what they attained.

Ok. First, fix the typo in the first sentence lulz.

and second.... BLAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all i can say to this announcement! HA!!!!

Knew this was coming.  Companies now a days don't seem to have a clue how to make a MMORPG.  They failed the minute they decided that the personal storty and cinematics of the game were far more important than the actual gameplay,  immersion of the world they created and content.  To not have a MMO star wars game without actual space content (seriously, space on rails?  WTF??)  was a disaster, and to not even really seriously consider it was just incopetence.  Another failing was the fact that they didn't really seem to realize just how important it is/was to frequently do content update/patches.  Now they are saying they will do this every 6 weeks,  with a staff they gutted?  Really Bioware,  I mean REALLY??  How clueless can a company/developers get? 

I had no problem with them going into the MMORPG market with their franchised single player RPG,  but they should have done a whole lot more research into it because it seems like they didn't have a clue.  Letting EA become involed, and by that token letting Mythic 'help' them ( after they just proved how much they "knew" by the disaster that was WAR),  pretty much every MMORPG gamer seen this coming.