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8/07/12 8:37:19 PM#341
F2P: Is not doom. People used to pay by the hour ($6/hour and up) to play text-based MMORPGs on services like Compuserve and GEnie. Hell, they used to pay by the CPU cycle and connect hour. So we moved past that to monthly sub fees, and from there now to hybrid F2P models and other microtransactions. In my opinion, the only way to keep a monthly sub game is to have enough "end-game" that people are really not "ending" but instead competing with each other to have the best stat, PvP capability, guild size or whatever. Many newer games aren't really designing that intentional bottleneck (what I call World of Lord of the Flies) but instead providing storylines. A couple examples would be the recently launched The Secret World and of course SWTOR. In this sort of game blazing through isn't really the best way to enjoy the game. However, since a monthly sub really translates into "all you can eat," deliberate play is at odds with that design! If you play with the mindset of "gotta grind though this and reach the end-game where all the fun is" you will miss the intended fun, get bored at the end, and quit.
EA: Is (almost always) doom. I have really never seen a company so antipathic towards the creative genius needed to actually make a great game and more mind-crushingly dedicated to design by shareholder. How many studios and names had their genre-breaking or genre-creating creations dumbed down and terminated with the very next release after EA became their parent company? When was the last great "Jane's" simulator, or the line-up-at-the-door Ultima or Wing Commander Origins release? Anyone really thinking the next Sim City will be permitted to be even good? I even have doubts they can manage a F2P transition without making players feel both pressured to buy microtransactions and nauseated in doing so. We'll see. I've spent $0 on SWTOR to date (don't play yet) and won't in F2P unless it's enjoyable to do so; I'll give it a shot and if I spend a few CPU cycles :D and don't get much further than the character creator, I'll have made a fair trade.
Be seeing you. |
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8/08/12 12:03:56 AM#342
Originally posted by Fendel84M Probably got sick of all the hate. https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/Bleakmage |
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8/08/12 12:04:44 AM#343
Originally posted by uohaloran See what I mean about hate? https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/Bleakmage |
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Goldknyght
Hard Core Member
Joined: 1/12/06
It''s one thing to have a opinion, but enforcing one is unconstitutional. |
8/08/12 5:41:26 AM#344
Originally posted by Gkarr yeah till your toon gets wiped. seeing as they still in alpha. |
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8/08/12 8:52:17 AM#345
Originally posted by Bleakmage Well Fendel84M apparently there's still one on this site. I looked back at some of the early posts about this game, it's amazing the number of "deleted users" that were all starry eyed about this games future that no longer exist. kinda makes you wonder about those rumors about hired forum marketing posters don't it? |
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8/08/12 6:18:52 PM#346
Originally posted by bubaluba I agree. Not to mention Planetside 2 is coming and F2P. 2012 is a good year! |
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Elikal
Spotlight Poster
Joined: 2/09/06
“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth |
8/09/12 3:21:39 PM#347
I really do not wish to rant or what, but I seriously doubt this move will be the miracle turn EA hopes. I rather expect it will be the end of the "F2P is the saviour" ideology. SWTOR now is in the shadow of GW2 and even Pandaria, and who then will care of SWTOR? Even F2P is no guarantee that things get better. It's a bit two edged sword, it may get more players early, but as I experienced with LOTRO and DCU, it also drags down the quality of players. The best way for SWTOR would have been to can the game and work on a relaunch in a year or so.
But as so often, one bad deed begets another... Holy Trinity who art in our MMORPGs! Blessed be thy speccs, as in WOW so in all MMOs! Our daily loot grant us, and forgive us our noobness, as we forgive the noobs! And do not lead us to disconnects, But deliver us from mediocrity, For thine is the specialization and the teamwork and the endgame, Until cancellation, Amen! |
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8/10/12 12:39:28 PM#348
Well, I for one think if they listened to all the players on what would "work" to keep it alive they wouldn't geet much done. Look at launch, how many subs did they have? If all of them had an ide how to make the game better, which would be done? They had a game and a vision for the game, if they took all the suggestions, then it would be your vision, not theirs, yet you whine because it's going "f2p savior mode". I thinkk they will get more subs for having a f2p conversion, with free having limits, which is where they want to go with it. I don't play anything just coming out. I get bored easily and most of the titles bore me, even EQ2 but that one's the best other than SWTOR. Langsdorff |
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JoeyMMO
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/09/11
To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug* |
8/15/12 12:56:16 PM#349
Originally posted by Dalmont Not all F2P games are crap, just like not all P2P games are good. |