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Beta Weekend Event Reviews & Impressions (Archived)  » I like how far WOW has come, but GW2 is now the superior choice.

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  IstrebiteI

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OP  7/31/12 2:03:10 AM#1

There is similarily titled thread in this forum with similar lack of explanation or proof of the topic title. So, why not have a twin? This is GW2 forums after all, why should a popular topic from them be about WOW being > GW2? So lets turn this around!

  Alot

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Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party

7/31/12 2:09:36 AM#2

Sir, I fear this thread will attract Ültra-hurricanes of trolls. I wish you good luck and I hope that your tinfoil hat collection is sturdy enough to withstand the coming Flametrollstorm.

  IstrebiteI

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OP  7/31/12 2:13:20 AM#3

I hope it will, and so, this title will show on mmorpg frontpage more frequently than the other similar title i'm referencing

  Kykyryz-a

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7/31/12 2:39:33 AM#4

hehe so we cant expect   normall Threat  before 25august anymore :))  just trollfest :) 

  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/31/12 3:46:50 AM#5

I lol'd.

And I didn't really notice any further significant change between WotLK and Cataclysm. It was just much much more of the same. ... °O

  DeserttFoxx

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7/31/12 3:52:17 AM#6

I dont play WoW.

Ive purchased guild wars 2.

 

Please tell me what you have seen in guild wars 2 that has made you think this statement is valid.

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  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/31/12 3:55:14 AM#7
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

[ ... ]

Please tell me what you have seen in guild wars 2 that has made you think this statement is valid.

So confused by this. Did yo read the title wrong? °O

  Alot

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Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party

7/31/12 3:57:17 AM#8


Originally posted by Indrome

Originally posted by DeserttFoxx [ ... ] Please tell me what you have seen in guild wars 2 that has made you think this statement is valid.
So confused by this. Did yo read the title wrong? °O

I think he read the title of the other thread.

  IPolygon

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7/31/12 4:13:28 AM#9

GW2 won't ever be superior to WoW unless it is the exact improvement of WoW. I can't see that happening.

  sketocafe

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7/31/12 4:18:20 AM#10

Hmmmm, I think that WoW has become markedly worse over time, so your opionion is suspect. As you appear to like GW2, and I don't trust your opinion, I guess I shouldn't try that game after all.

  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/31/12 4:19:43 AM#11
Originally posted by IPolygon

GW2 won't ever be superior to WoW unless it is the exact improvement of WoW. I can't see that happening.

I think I now have troll-whiplash. What is it with WoW people failing or not wanting to adhere to basic rules of conversation:

- if stating opinion, mark as such

- if stating a point or an argument, give reasons / facts / sources for what you say

- don't call someone "fanboi" just because your point of view differs

- don't open up "WoW is better than GW2, no reason"-threads in the GW2 subforum.

  DonY81

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7/31/12 4:21:19 AM#12

Im buying GW2 but it is not superior to wow. Wow has been out for how long now and how much content does it actually have???

Is GW2 going to have the same or as much from the getgo?

Ok graphics and yes it is soo many years newer but come on i very much doubt that all the millions will flock to GW2 and if they do a lot will as always end up going back at some point.

Time will tell though.

  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/31/12 4:22:41 AM#13
Originally posted by sketocafe

Hmmmm, I think that WoW has become markedly worse over time, so your opionion is suspect. As you appear to like GW2, and I don't trust your opinion, I guess I shouldn't try that game after all.

Glad not to have someone on board who bases his opinion of a game on one rather ironically meant thread. Are some people really this shallow and quick to click?

  austriacus

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7/31/12 4:27:53 AM#14
Originally posted by DonY81

Im buying GW2 but it is not superior to wow. Wow has been out for how long now and how much content does it actually have???

Is GW2 going to have the same or as much from the getgo?

Ok graphics and yes it is soo many years newer but come on i very much doubt that all the millions will flock to GW2 and if they do a lot will as always end up going back at some point.

Time will tell though.

The question is not how much content WoW or GW2 have but how much of it is relevant to the game.

We can only answer this when people have experienced everything it has  to offer at lvl 80.

  gasperk

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7/31/12 4:32:22 AM#15

Do not cancle WoW sub anyway. YOu will be back playing it befour the end of next month.

GW2 is fine.... but it wont last more then 1 month... 2 max.

  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/31/12 4:33:47 AM#16
Originally posted by DonY81

[ ... ]

Is GW2 going to have the same or as much from the getgo?

  [ ... ]

About comparable to when WoW first started in terms of landmass. The funny part about GW2 is that in higher levels the lower level content doesn't get cut off. Characters scale down to zone level. So the landmass worth playing in high level isn't less than in low lvl but actually everything together.

In terms of wealth of content:

Much more. See Dynamic Events Web Maps combined with the multiple ways to complete each quest and the branching out exploration mode of dungeons. Also the playerbase isn't cut in half by factions.

But yes, time will tell.

  Mrlogic

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7/31/12 4:41:58 AM#17

My personal opinion is that GW2 is far superior to WoW, it is inevitable to come to any other conclusion after having played both. The only reason in my mind anyone could state the opposite, is based on pure nostalgia, nothing else.

  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/31/12 4:44:01 AM#18
Originally posted by austriacus

[ ... ] We can only answer this when people have experienced everything it has  to offer at lvl 80.

Except the clue is that in GW2 you are meant NOT to have experienced everything by LvL 80. In fact it will be next to impossible. And who'd want to anyway? I don't want an MMO to be "completely chewed" by max LvL.... °O

 

Originally posted by gasperk

[ ... ] YOu will be back playing it befour the end of next month.

GW2 is fine.... but it wont last more then 1 month... 2 max.

No, I won't. I haven't played it since summer 2010... or was that 2009? (Point is, my last fond memories of WoW stem from pre-"WotLK argent tournament secondary currency madness")

And what is it with the unfunded anti-GW2 assumptions these days? (and in the GW2 subforum no less...)

  IstrebiteI

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OP  7/31/12 5:09:29 AM#19

Haha, confusion ensues. I hope people leave the previous topic and all move here, so we promote THE TRUTH :)

Thing is, even after GW2 is launched, and people get to experience both, WoW may be still percieved as a better game by majority.

 

That is because WoW plays YOU.

In WoW, you come and see a clear progression. You basically log in and ask "What can i do for you today, game" and game answers:

- Go level up to max (if you didnt already)

- Go do those dailies

- Go craft theese and put them on AH

- Go do heroics until you get your weekly maximum

- Go do the raid if you havent done it yet

- Go do the battlegrounds until you get your daily bg win

Its work. You dont log into the game and ask "how am i going to have fun today, dear game?" You log in and ask for game to give you work, for which you will be rewarded with various currencies and virtual goodies. You have a checklist of stuff to do each week/day, and you do it because it earns you virtual credit/other stuff, not because you enjoy the process of doing it. Since the process of doing it is a repetitive grind!

 

Now, GW2 still has all that, but it still gives YOU freedom to play IT.

In GW2, there are daily achievements (effectively, daily quests dungeons and bgs). There still is leveling cap to reach and gear to get (its cosmetic, athough).

However, the emphasis is much less on the goal and much more on the process. You log in and you see a variety of activities you can perform. You ask the game "how am i going to have fun today?" and game tells you your options. Those options are not boring grinds, repeating over again the same old shit (joust on the arena, go gather items, go kill x dudes, fly a hippo and throw harpoons around, repeat each day for months ahead). They are something you may or may not enjoy, depending on your mood, your playstyle, your preferences. Of course, you are given some incentitive to do it, since you do get virtual currency and stuff, like zone completion. But after all, its up to you to decide what do you want to do today.

In GW2, content is something you enjoy on your own terms, not something that tells you "go repeat that task each day for 14 days then you'll be allowed to progress to next level so you can do another task once a week for several weeks then you'll...."

 

There is one problem with this. People do not call GW2 "sandbox" because it obviously doesnt give you much freedom in composing your class, you cant build in the world, you dont have FFA PVP, etc. But this is the sandbox element -and its downside is that you need to actually know how to get involved. If you sit in a sandbox and dont want to learn how to play with the sand - you're going to get bored. Unlike when you play a computer game that tells you "now do this. now do that. now do this. good job!  you advanced to the next level. now try it yourself. good job. now do this..."

WoW can be superior not because its a better game with more content. Its a worser game with less content (in GW2, i have the whole world of dynamic events - aka quests - to do as my "dailies", in WoW only those specific dailies made for level cap). But the content is medicore enough to be acceptable, and there is a strongly structured system that gives you tasks, that teaches you how to do this content and gives you a plan what do you have to do with it. There is no "dungeon", there is "the dungeon", that servers exact specific purpose - to take you from ILVL X to ILVL Y so you can continue doing content. Content is structured in a line, and you are given a plan how you will consume and enjoy it.

 

However, i think there are enough people out there who hate this stupid game-work system already, and will enjoy GW2. It doesnt need to beat the numbers of WoW, it just needs to get enough people playing it to pay for content updates and bug fixes at an acceptable rate, thats it.

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

7/31/12 5:15:48 AM#20

This thread is equally as useless and without any good merit as its WoW forum counterpart. 

 

Judging a game thats not out already is quite poor practice as is, but it only becomes that much worst with the lack of any facts to back it up. Rather then opening threads like this that have 0 Merit, if you like to praise a game make topics about points in the game you enjoy or give an opinion you can actually comment on based on the game.

An X is better then Y thread does nothing, and using it to retaliate against one in another subforum is just as bad as the very person your attempting to get back at for their pointless thread.

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