People's logic surrounding entertainment is absurd.

Let me get this straight, hype, according to some people, changes the mechanics of a game or the production values?

No, it doesn't, it just changes the way you perceive a product.

It's like some people and music or movies, if alot of people say it's good, then it automatically is not as good as it would be if it was relatively unknown.

The value of an enterteinment product is only up to the user, not to the opinions of others, for the love of anything you hold dear, start making your own mind about what you like and don't.

What makes the hype different?

Keeping promises.

We've played the game - some of us quite a lot, everything Anet said they were going to give us, everything they showed us, we've seen and tested and played.

No hype CGI trailers, no missing or tacked on features....

When they hype is generated by the media who played the game and the players who played the game, it's so much different then hype generated by the developer who hasn't let anyone play the game (except under very controlled conditions).

OP, to answer your question nothing makes GW2 any different than any other hyped flavor of the month MMORPG release except perhaps the fact it is B2P which may allow many to keep playing off and on when they go look to sub to something else. I think you are smart to wait. A lot of people are excited and desperate for a new game experience and are buying into the game’s promises right now. I figure next month many will have quit GW2 in boredom and be feeling all disenchanted over it while praising the next big release on the calender that they hope will satisfy their need. Likely, it won’t either. This cycle has been going on for seemingly every MMORPG release in recent memory. It’s like we are trapped in an ongoing series of one night stands with the gaming industry that are not as satisfying as we thought they should be and leave us all with an odd itch...

The truth is there is no difference. People will argue up their favorite publishers game while blindfolded. Fanboi's aren't like the rest of us, they are clouded by a sea of bias opinion. Yes we saw this with many other games before.

How beta testers could tell us SWTOR is the best game ever with a straight face is beyond me. Same with Diablo 3, those testers were awfully inaccurate with the state of the game. What you guys didn't notice act 4 took about an hour to complete? Wasn't a content red flag for you? Ok......

For all the present/future beta testers out there, please give an accurate review of the game when the NDA is up. You are wasting peoples money and helping lazy corporations take advantage of their customers with a single shiny game trailer. A game is not better because you sunk time or money into it. It's just like reviewing movies, you don't give your friends a better review because you dropped cash on it but that's what most people do.

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by BigRock411

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Still looking for where all this "hype" is outside of sites dedicated to MMORPGs. Untill I see it, I call troll bs. 

Would you consider GW2 to be under-hyped?

 

I don't like the word hype. Anyway, among mmorpg fans then yeah GW2 is certainly well known.

Outside of mmorpg players and sites like this one, it really isn't that known of a game.

And that is the point. It is like saying Andrew Luck is over hyped in Indy. As a Packer fan I don't hear much about him, and if you don't follow the NFL you have no clue WHO he is.. but in one little market he is all that is talked about.

Are you kidding?  GW2 is frequently on the front page of Youtube because of people such as the Yogscast covering it.  It has also been all over Reddit, there's even a sub forum for it.

There is a student forum I frequent and even that site, a site which is usually filled with party boy fools who don't know what an MMO is has had threads about GW2.

You can go to other game websites like SWTOR and Archeage, there's people there making threads about how much better GW2 is.

 

I could go on and on

Youtube front page adjusts to what you have been watching. When my daughter forgets to log out of youtube on the laptop, I see nothing about GW2 (and a bunch about "warrior cats"). It is YOUR fault that you have GW2 on yourtube.

As for reddit.. unsubsribe to /r/guildwars2 and your problem is solved. And saying just because it has a subreddit means it is "over hyped" make no sense. I am subscrided to /r/homebrewing.. does that mean making beer at home is over hyped? And DONT get me started on the spacedicks argument.

As for your student forum.. link? You other argument is so weak I am just shaking my head.

Oh, and there is dbags for ALL games that go to competing forums and start crap. Welcome to the internet.

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

does that mean making beer at home is over hyped?

Could be it is. Better let me taste, to make sure...

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

does that mean making beer at home is over hyped?

Could be it is. Better let me taste, to make sure...

LOL. I'll have a pint to cheers....

Originally posted by BigRock411

Look i plan on playing GW2 eventually, but im planning to avoid launch.  Yes i know people are going to discount this as a troll thread because im playing another game right now and im not head over heels positive about GW2 just yet.

The main question i want to pose to everyone here, seeing how opinion is overhelmingly positive that this is going to be the next major game....what about GW2 and the lead up to launch has been different to other games that had just as much positive pre-launch support?

We can look back through the years and see the very same type of overwhelmimg positive opinion for a lot of games prior to launch, games that include AOC/WAR/AION/RIFT/SWTOR theres a lot more but those where the major ones i remember.  Nothing bad was to be said about the listed games, they all were going to be different, ground breaking, had nothing but stellar beta feedback (and when there wasnt stellar beta feedback anything negative was flamed to dust).

I see a lot of similairities with this launch and those others, mainly the high expectations that always seem to be true prior to launch but seem to be just a veil of perfection several weeks later.

 

I played the first beta round, wasnt impressed as far as hype generated for it, i do realize a lot of stuff that was wrong in that beta has been fixed, but im thinking out farther than whats coverd in a few betas.  I have concerns that i dare not voice here, being a game thats well defended as are all overhyped prelaunched games that will revolutionize the mmo genere ect.

 

So whats different this time around? Am i going to end up playing a hated game a month after launch despite it being unfallable prior to launch?

Am i the only one who notices these things?  

 

Im really less interested in the opinions on this game or the game im playing now, or how i have it all wrong that this game is in fact perfect ect...im more curious on the midset thats taken over here, and how people seem to forget the same exact thing happens every single time one of these games launches on high hopes.

 

Im sure this will quickly degrade into personal attack ect or just be ignored, but id like at least a short reasitic discussion about why this time around the games going to be flawless all the way through, not just in the first few weeks.

 

Also i will find it hard to believe that people arre just going to play this game for what it is, despite its what i do, i dont really care about the minor issues, its just this would be the first high-hype launch where everyone actually didnt care and just played the game to enjoy it.  That is the vital missing part with all the other launches just like GW2...people say they will play it just to enjoy it and dont care but 3 weeks later they care very deeply about any and all issues that people tried to talk about prior to launch, but were flamed and ignored.  This will be a mmorpg first if people turn out to overlook the issues that may arise down the road.

Those games you mentioned were all clones of WoW.  Same exact endgame, same PvP, same questing mechanics, same holy trinity, same lobby based endgame play, same monthly fees, same flaws, same instanced based mechanics, same same same same.  I could go on all day!

GW2......DIFFERENT!  GW2 is about innovation, for me this is the ONLY reason to hype it.  Started in 2010 when I watched Anet's Manefesto.  It bought tears to my eyes and I promised I would support this company because of their commitment to innovation.

Originally posted by BigRock411

I dont want to get hung up on the payment method, and if they follow through on their expansion schedule its going to cost $15 a month but in the box price up front, so i dont see much of a money saving payment model, not that it concerns me.

Theres been a lot of promises kept for a lot of games that ended up being over hyped then hated, out of the ones i listed only a few failed with their promises, and only then those broken promises were found AFTER launch..

This is why i posed this question...its easy to say ANet is following all their promises prior to launch, there were people who said the same exact thing about AoC and we all know what happend once the game launched and people left the wonderful area of tortage.

What makes it different this time that going to allow this game to retain its hype past that first month and past the point of being at endgame (which is usually the make or break moment for mmorpgs and often goes untested untill well after launch)

Also, IceWhite...missed the point by a long shot...

Uhm, you think they will release a new expansion every third or fourth month?

That is utterly impossible, at best it will be every 9 months which should cost you about 5 bucks a month (assuming the cost will be $45, a little more if we are talking $60) and you don´t have to buy the expansions to actually play the game unlike monthly fees.

So, no. Take it from a GW vet, B2P is a lot cheaper than P2P unless you spend a fortune on crap you don't need.

Originally posted by BadSpock

What makes the hype different?

Keeping promises.

We've played the game - some of us quite a lot, everything Anet said they were going to give us, everything they showed us, we've seen and tested and played.

No hype CGI trailers, no missing or tacked on features....

When they hype is generated by the media who played the game and the players who played the game, it's so much different then hype generated by the developer who hasn't let anyone play the game (except under very controlled conditions).

 

   ^THIS^

Because this game not only lives up to anets manifesto it exceeds it which justifies the players hype as well...

The excitement for this game is very real as is the content anet filled this game to the brim with....

Originally posted by DaezAster

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

does that mean making beer at home is over hyped?

Could be it is. Better let me taste, to make sure...

LOL. I'll have a pint to cheers....

No no no.. everyone is just going to have to wait. I am going to be making a new batch in the next day or two that will be for  launch day. THEN eveyrone can have a pint! (crap, if I name a beer after guild wars 2, does THAT make it over hyped?)

Originally posted by dageeza

Originally posted by BadSpock

What makes the hype different?

Keeping promises.

We've played the game - some of us quite a lot, everything Anet said they were going to give us, everything they showed us, we've seen and tested and played.

No hype CGI trailers, no missing or tacked on features....

When they hype is generated by the media who played the game and the players who played the game, it's so much different then hype generated by the developer who hasn't let anyone play the game (except under very controlled conditions).

 

   ^THIS^

Because this game not only lives up to anets manifesto it exceeds it which justifies the players hype as well...

The excitement for this game is very real....

Problem is, people that dont believe you will just say that you are proving them right about the hype.  As a great man once said, "Many of the truths we cling to depends on our point of view".

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by BigRock411

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Still looking for where all this "hype" is outside of sites dedicated to MMORPGs. Untill I see it, I call troll bs. 

Would you consider GW2 to be under-hyped?

 

I don't like the word hype. Anyway, among mmorpg fans then yeah GW2 is certainly well known.

Outside of mmorpg players and sites like this one, it really isn't that known of a game.

And that is the point. It is like saying Andrew Luck is over hyped in Indy. As a Packer fan I don't hear much about him, and if you don't follow the NFL you have no clue WHO he is.. but in one little market he is all that is talked about.

Are you kidding?  GW2 is frequently on the front page of Youtube because of people such as the Yogscast covering it.  It has also been all over Reddit, there's even a sub forum for it.

There is a student forum I frequent and even that site, a site which is usually filled with party boy fools who don't know what an MMO is has had threads about GW2.

You can go to other game websites like SWTOR and Archeage, there's people there making threads about how much better GW2 is.

 

I could go on and on

Youtube front page adjusts to what you have been watching. When my daughter forgets to log out of youtube on the laptop, I see nothing about GW2 (and a bunch about "warrior cats"). It is YOUR fault that you have GW2 on yourtube.

As for reddit.. unsubsribe to /r/guildwars2 and your problem is solved. And saying just because it has a subreddit means it is "over hyped" make no sense. I am subscrided to /r/homebrewing.. does that mean making beer at home is over hyped? And DONT get me started on the spacedicks argument.

As for your student forum.. link? You other argument is so weak I am just shaking my head.

Oh, and there is dbags for ALL games that go to competing forums and start crap. Welcome to the internet.

If you don't have much activity on Youtube, or if you do not have an account, the Youtube home page shows the most popular videos.  For about 2 months The Yogscast's GW2 vids were top.

Don't bother replying, dude.  I cannot have a serious debate with anyone who doesn't think hype exists or someone who can't comprehend how over-hyped GW2 is.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1607767  There's the link for my example btw, this was a random selection and is one of many.

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

(crap, if I name a beer after guild wars 2, does THAT make it over hyped?)

No, but if you're considering a name for your child, it's time to talk.

Or a tattoo.  Remember that crazy with the Lineage tattoo?

What hype? It takes me forever to find and active GW2 thread here. It's like the game doesn't exist on people's radar...

/sarcasm

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by BigRock411

I dont want to get hung up on the payment method, and if they follow through on their expansion schedule its going to cost $15 a month but in the box price up front, so i dont see much of a money saving payment model, not that it concerns me.

Theres been a lot of promises kept for a lot of games that ended up being over hyped then hated, out of the ones i listed only a few failed with their promises, and only then those broken promises were found AFTER launch..

This is why i posed this question...its easy to say ANet is following all their promises prior to launch, there were people who said the same exact thing about AoC and we all know what happend once the game launched and people left the wonderful area of tortage.

What makes it different this time that going to allow this game to retain its hype past that first month and past the point of being at endgame (which is usually the make or break moment for mmorpgs and often goes untested untill well after launch)

Also, IceWhite...missed the point by a long shot...

Uhm, you think they will release a new expansion every third or fourth month?

That is utterly impossible, at best it will be every 9 months which should cost you about 5 bucks a month (assuming the cost will be $45, a little more if we are talking $60) and you don´t have to buy the expansions to actually play the game unlike monthly fees.

So, no. Take it from a GW vet, B2P is a lot cheaper than P2P unless you spend a fortune on crap you don't need.

There's even an article that talks about this. ANet learned from GW1 that rapidly releasing expansions is bad for the game and shifted their focus to microtransactions (ie: why there is a cash shop).

http://venturebeat.com/2012/05/21/guild-wars-2-interview-monetization/#s:guildwars2-16

GamesBeat: When you released Guild Wars in 2005, publishing an MMO without a mandatory subscription fee seemed like a very bold idea. Your original business plan was to generate revenue for ongoing operations by releasing new game expansions regularly, and microtransactions were only an afterthought. Can you summarize how the original Guild Wars model worked out for you and what lessons you learned from it?

Mike O’Brien: Guild Wars sales far exceeded our expectations, so we learned that there was huge demand for a non-monthly fee game. But we also learned that it wasn’t in the game’s best interest to release new expansions as rapidly as we had originally intended. I mean, we literally got to the point where we could release an entire new campaign — with a new storyline, new professions, and new game mechanics — in just six months. We released Nightfall exactly six months after Factions. That pace was great for the hardcore players who could consume content that quickly, but it left a lot of other players behind and didn’t give the world time to settle from one campaign to the next.

So we shifted the focus of our business model during the Guild Wars life-cycle from supporting the live game through constantly releasing new expansion packs to supporting the live game through microtransactions.

Without entering in too much details, as a Sandboxer, I can tell you GW2 is the best Themepark ever released.

I bought it already and I was having enough fun during Betas, something I never had with WAR, RIFT, SWTOR or TSW...............

I haven't played any Dungeons yet (which is my favourite feature in any MMO), but from what I've seen in some Videos they look awesome, so for me GW2 can only get better.

I am not sure if that helps you

Hey OP!

I'm just one guy (well, two if you count my wife too).

I completely ignored the "Hype" For GW2. I was aware of a game with such a name coming out, but did not care as I played GW1 and did not find it to my liking.

I was all up in World of Warcraft. Got in the beta for Mists of Pandaria, like what I saw, this... that.

Then I happened to read about GW2, by coincidence. Loved it. Was skeptical, bought it anyway to try the BWE3 and I was sold. I read what others think about the game and I can see many mirroring my experience. Those that played it without pre-concepts were just blown away by this gem of a game.

Take it as you wish.

Originally posted by Volkmar

I'm just one guy (well, two if you count my wife too).

Your wife's a g...naw too easy :P

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Originally posted by QuicklyScott

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by BigRock411

Originally posted by Skarecrow7

Still looking for where all this "hype" is outside of sites dedicated to MMORPGs. Untill I see it, I call troll bs. 

Would you consider GW2 to be under-hyped?

 

I don't like the word hype. Anyway, among mmorpg fans then yeah GW2 is certainly well known.

Outside of mmorpg players and sites like this one, it really isn't that known of a game.

And that is the point. It is like saying Andrew Luck is over hyped in Indy. As a Packer fan I don't hear much about him, and if you don't follow the NFL you have no clue WHO he is.. but in one little market he is all that is talked about.

Are you kidding?  GW2 is frequently on the front page of Youtube because of people such as the Yogscast covering it.  It has also been all over Reddit, there's even a sub forum for it.

There is a student forum I frequent and even that site, a site which is usually filled with party boy fools who don't know what an MMO is has had threads about GW2.

You can go to other game websites like SWTOR and Archeage, there's people there making threads about how much better GW2 is.

 

I could go on and on

Youtube front page adjusts to what you have been watching. When my daughter forgets to log out of youtube on the laptop, I see nothing about GW2 (and a bunch about "warrior cats"). It is YOUR fault that you have GW2 on yourtube.

As for reddit.. unsubsribe to /r/guildwars2 and your problem is solved. And saying just because it has a subreddit means it is "over hyped" make no sense. I am subscrided to /r/homebrewing.. does that mean making beer at home is over hyped? And DONT get me started on the spacedicks argument.

As for your student forum.. link? You other argument is so weak I am just shaking my head.

Oh, and there is dbags for ALL games that go to competing forums and start crap. Welcome to the internet.

 

If you don't have much activity on Youtube, or if you do not have an account, the Youtube home page shows the most popular videos.  For about 2 months The Yogscast's GW2 vids were top.

Don't bother replying, dude.  I cannot have a serious debate with anyone who doesn't think hype exists or someone who can't comprehend how over-hyped GW2 is.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1607767  There's the link for my example btw, this was a random selection and is one of many.

 

Thats odd.. I went incogneto mode, went to youtube.. and NO gw2 on front page. I saw mincraft, 50 cent and justin beiber. would you like a screen shot? I am sure it is up there once in awhile.

Oh, and your link.. it was posted by someone who writes for a gaming website and did an artical on GW2. It was nothing but self promotion.  Oh, and your link proves MY point. It is under a COMPUTER gaming forum, and if you just look at all the threads, there is only ONE thread on front page about GW2. ONE! We got a whole lotta hype there. http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=118

Hype.. is that really the biggest argument you have against a game? Perhaps I could do some more spelling or grammical errors for you to point out, cause then you REALLY will be winning.

Edit to add in my own link (from same forum) to prove my point that in the gaming comunity, gw2 is not over hyped.