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  Hancakes

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7/30/12 7:21:10 AM#21
Originally posted by Slapshot1188

I almost typed up a nice reply... and then midstream I realized that I had seen this particular issue before, and again before that, and again before that, and... well you get the picture.  Different names, but same old story.

 

 

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  Hancakes

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7/30/12 7:25:43 AM#22
Originally posted by Filterheadz

there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ...  and we are talking about blizzard!

 

...
  Norpan

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Joined: 12/08/11
Posts: 349

7/30/12 7:55:26 AM#23
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Filterheadz

there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ...  and we are talking about blizzard!

 

Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .

 

Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?
  Tacan

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7/30/12 8:55:28 AM#24

hm..Hunted, he is old FURY member?

  Toferio

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7/30/12 9:53:07 AM#25
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Filterheadz

there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ...  and we are talking about blizzard!

 

Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .

 

Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?

I don't think he said duping was "good" in any game, but that it affected players experience less in D3 than in MO, as MO is all about open world PvP, player economy and territory control, not to forget full loot while D3 is a heavy PvE game. Mobs don't qq on forums after getting ganked.

  Deviron

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Joined: 6/11/04
Posts: 17

 
OP  7/30/12 10:04:15 AM#26
Originally posted by ThaBadMan
Originally posted by Deviron

"30day suspension pending investigation."

Spin it like you want im just stating like i see it. He admitted to it and is "pending investigation".. or in 30 days people will hopefully forget all about this. 

I was thinking of buying it and caught this before the Mods on there forums deleted it.  I wont be getting Mortal and I am just letting other people who are thinking about it whats going on.  Maybe you can attract some more people who like to dupe and you can have fun in your little sandbox.

 

EDIT: BTW this isnt an attack on the guild i think they are handling it.  This post is more for how the company is handling it.

What are u on ?

Do u think the police stops an investigation just cause a guy turn himself in ?

What about peeps that helped him out or if hes just protecting his "boss" ?

 

An investigation means they are trying to find more peeps than the 4 already banned that where involved in the dupe or received some of the dupe so they can get rid of everything duped and not only what the 4 already banned had.

 

Get a head on ur shoulders before posting shit.


http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/thabadman.9204/

How about you quit being such a fan boy and just admit that its pretty shade.

Again im calling it like I see it and you can make excuse to your blue in the face.

  psykobilly

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Joined: 11/19/10
Posts: 347

7/30/12 10:44:58 AM#27
Originally posted by Deviron
Originally posted by ThaBadMan
Originally posted by Deviron

"30day suspension pending investigation."

Spin it like you want im just stating like i see it. He admitted to it and is "pending investigation".. or in 30 days people will hopefully forget all about this. 

I was thinking of buying it and caught this before the Mods on there forums deleted it.  I wont be getting Mortal and I am just letting other people who are thinking about it whats going on.  Maybe you can attract some more people who like to dupe and you can have fun in your little sandbox.

 

EDIT: BTW this isnt an attack on the guild i think they are handling it.  This post is more for how the company is handling it.

What are u on ?

Do u think the police stops an investigation just cause a guy turn himself in ?

What about peeps that helped him out or if hes just protecting his "boss" ?

 

An investigation means they are trying to find more peeps than the 4 already banned that where involved in the dupe or received some of the dupe so they can get rid of everything duped and not only what the 4 already banned had.

 

Get a head on ur shoulders before posting shit.


http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/thabadman.9204/

How about you quit being such a fan boy and just admit that its pretty shade.

Again im calling it like I see it and you can make excuse to your blue in the face.

Want to know really shady?  They didn't discover the dupe from their detection methods as deathshroud falsly claims.  They discovered it because a member of the same guild ratted out the other people using the dupe so he could keep his duped items.  From what I heard he is not banned and got to keep everything.  

 

  Norpan

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Joined: 12/08/11
Posts: 349

7/30/12 11:15:52 AM#28
Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Filterheadz

there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ...  and we are talking about blizzard!

 

Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .

 

Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?

I don't think he said duping was "good" in any game, but that it affected players experience less in D3 than in MO, as MO is all about open world PvP, player economy and territory control, not to forget full loot while D3 is a heavy PvE game. Mobs don't qq on forums after getting ganked.


I dunno if PVP is in D3 yet, since I don´t play it, but Blizzard said early on that there would be PVP in D3, so it sure ain´t only gonna be used in PVE. And as I said, Blizzard has the resources to do something about it but they don´t. SV have poor resources as we all know, but they at least try to do something about it. How this can ever be considered bad is beyond me. And dupes is going on in most MMOs out there, so the OP might just as well stop playing MMOs all together with the way he sees it...

  Norpan

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Joined: 12/08/11
Posts: 349

7/30/12 11:19:09 AM#29
Originally posted by Deviron
Originally posted by ThaBadMan
Originally posted by Deviron

"30day suspension pending investigation."

Spin it like you want im just stating like i see it. He admitted to it and is "pending investigation".. or in 30 days people will hopefully forget all about this. 

I was thinking of buying it and caught this before the Mods on there forums deleted it.  I wont be getting Mortal and I am just letting other people who are thinking about it whats going on.  Maybe you can attract some more people who like to dupe and you can have fun in your little sandbox.

 

EDIT: BTW this isnt an attack on the guild i think they are handling it.  This post is more for how the company is handling it.

What are u on ?

Do u think the police stops an investigation just cause a guy turn himself in ?

What about peeps that helped him out or if hes just protecting his "boss" ?

 

An investigation means they are trying to find more peeps than the 4 already banned that where involved in the dupe or received some of the dupe so they can get rid of everything duped and not only what the 4 already banned had.

 

Get a head on ur shoulders before posting shit.


http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/thabadman.9204/

How about you quit being such a fan boy and just admit that its pretty shade.

Again im calling it like I see it and you can make excuse to your blue in the face.

He´s not being a fan boy. Even though he sure likes MO. But he actually read, and interpret the link you posted. While you blindly are stuck at the "30 days banned for duping", which quite clearly is stated was DURING their investigation on the matter. How it all ended we don´t know. Or I don´t at least. So it´s quite pointless little thread you´ve made. Grats.

  KillHurt

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Joined: 6/09/10
Posts: 353

7/30/12 11:21:41 AM#30

The e-peen is strong with that one.

  Tatercake

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Joined: 4/24/07
Posts: 255

LET GO OF MY NUTS

7/30/12 11:34:41 AM#31

well i do not realy mis much of mo it was a decent concept i enjoye dplaying with the dogs and the crazey germans they were a lot of fun but for the rest of the comunity it was terrible im glad this went down things need to chainge  i had  a sweet place built it and all the other guilds were like hell no you cant live there and they destroyed my crap  when i was offline and to do it over and over again just stupid and  retarded  ya i dont mis sthe blue  runing around stealing when you get quard whacked ya  it is a poor  comunity very little honor in it

  argirop

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Joined: 6/05/09
Posts: 326

7/30/12 12:13:44 PM#32

The attitude of that Hunted dude who posted his crap in the first link is just awesome. I dont know who he is ingame and if he (the duper that was supposed to get cought) actualy made a post like that but i think he deserves nothing less than a permanent ban and a couple strong kicks from his parents right in the butt cause he is clearly a 10 year old with horrible character and attitude.

The bad thing is that things like that are pretty common in MO. Famous dupers making comeback posts and community welcomes them, retarded exploiters that openly admiting that they are "manipulating" open windows in crappy SV's code to make a name for theimselfs in a virtual world like it really matters are considered to be MO's legends and community votes for them... Each time something like that happens drives me miles away from MO and at this time that i dont have an active sub, i really feel that theres no reason at all to reactivate my accounts not even when Awakening hits live. This game is a constant and long lasting disapointment and SV is by far the worst company i ve ever had business with.

  deathshroud

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Joined: 11/06/10
Posts: 1392

7/31/12 1:03:55 AM#33
Originally posted by psykobilly
Originally posted by Deviron
Originally posted by ThaBadMan
Originally posted by Deviron

"30day suspension pending investigation."

Spin it like you want im just stating like i see it. He admitted to it and is "pending investigation".. or in 30 days people will hopefully forget all about this. 

I was thinking of buying it and caught this before the Mods on there forums deleted it.  I wont be getting Mortal and I am just letting other people who are thinking about it whats going on.  Maybe you can attract some more people who like to dupe and you can have fun in your little sandbox.

 

EDIT: BTW this isnt an attack on the guild i think they are handling it.  This post is more for how the company is handling it.

What are u on ?

Do u think the police stops an investigation just cause a guy turn himself in ?

What about peeps that helped him out or if hes just protecting his "boss" ?

 

An investigation means they are trying to find more peeps than the 4 already banned that where involved in the dupe or received some of the dupe so they can get rid of everything duped and not only what the 4 already banned had.

 

Get a head on ur shoulders before posting shit.


http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/thabadman.9204/

How about you quit being such a fan boy and just admit that its pretty shade.

Again im calling it like I see it and you can make excuse to your blue in the face.

Want to know really shady?  They didn't discover the dupe from their detection methods as deathshroud falsly claims.  They discovered it because a member of the same guild ratted out the other people using the dupe so he could keep his duped items.  From what I heard he is not banned and got to keep everything.  

 

well beleive what you like, but i reckon i have a better understanding of what happened and so will choose to beleive my understanding of the events over yours.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  SHOE788

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Joined: 9/02/10
Posts: 715

7/31/12 8:16:31 AM#34
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Filterheadz

there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ...  and we are talking about blizzard!

 

Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .

 

Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?

I don't think he said duping was "good" in any game, but that it affected players experience less in D3 than in MO, as MO is all about open world PvP, player economy and territory control, not to forget full loot while D3 is a heavy PvE game. Mobs don't qq on forums after getting ganked.


I dunno if PVP is in D3 yet, since I don´t play it, but Blizzard said early on that there would be PVP in D3, so it sure ain´t only gonna be used in PVE. And as I said, Blizzard has the resources to do something about it but they don´t. SV have poor resources as we all know, but they at least try to do something about it. How this can ever be considered bad is beyond me. And dupes is going on in most MMOs out there, so the OP might just as well stop playing MMOs all together with the way he sees it...


D3 doesn't have pvp. D3 isn't an MMO.

Apples to Oranges

  TalwinSindas

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Posts: 17

7/31/12 8:35:42 AM#35
Originally posted by psykobilly
Originally posted by Deviron
Originally posted by ThaBadMan
Originally posted by Deviron

"30day suspension pending investigation."

Spin it like you want im just stating like i see it. He admitted to it and is "pending investigation".. or in 30 days people will hopefully forget all about this.

I was thinking of buying it and caught this before the Mods on there forums deleted it. I wont be getting Mortal and I am just letting other people who are thinking about it whats going on. Maybe you can attract some more people who like to dupe and you can have fun in your little sandbox.

 

EDIT: BTW this isnt an attack on the guild i think they are handling it. This post is more for how the company is handling it.

What are u on ?

Do u think the police stops an investigation just cause a guy turn himself in ?

What about peeps that helped him out or if hes just protecting his "boss" ?

 

An investigation means they are trying to find more peeps than the 4 already banned that where involved in the dupe or received some of the dupe so they can get rid of everything duped and not only what the 4 already banned had.

 

Get a head on ur shoulders before posting shit.


http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/members/thabadman.9204/

How about you quit being such a fan boy and just admit that its pretty shade.

Again im calling it like I see it and you can make excuse to your blue in the face.

Want to know really shady? They didn't discover the dupe from their detection methods as deathshroud falsly claims. They discovered it because a member of the same guild ratted out the other people using the dupe so he could keep his duped items. From what I heard he is not banned and got to keep everything.

 

 

From what I heard from Vlad, this is similar to how he got at least some of his wealth.

He said some random person would offer him a very good deal on a bunch of high end mats (Og/Cr), he would buy it then tell a GM that he suspected the guy of duping. As a reward the GM would allow Vlad to keep much, if not all of the mats. This happened a few times.

There were other times he would happen to kill some random, unknown person who had very valuable things on them, like a Keep Deed or a bunch of gold.

I suspect that these random people were trial accounts or secondary accounts that he used to launder the mats and give himself plausible dependability. I have no proof this is the case though, he may have very well done nothing wrong and those random people were actually other people but idk.

I do know at least some of his wealth was legit though. He farmed a lot early on then bought mats low and sold high. His guild also accumulated wealth which he stored, from farming and a few in game events.

The MO GM Talwin is Sindas.

  Norpan

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7/31/12 8:56:30 AM#36
Originally posted by SHOE788
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Filterheadz

there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ...  and we are talking about blizzard!

 

Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .

 

Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?

I don't think he said duping was "good" in any game, but that it affected players experience less in D3 than in MO, as MO is all about open world PvP, player economy and territory control, not to forget full loot while D3 is a heavy PvE game. Mobs don't qq on forums after getting ganked.


I dunno if PVP is in D3 yet, since I don´t play it, but Blizzard said early on that there would be PVP in D3, so it sure ain´t only gonna be used in PVE. And as I said, Blizzard has the resources to do something about it but they don´t. SV have poor resources as we all know, but they at least try to do something about it. How this can ever be considered bad is beyond me. And dupes is going on in most MMOs out there, so the OP might just as well stop playing MMOs all together with the way he sees it...


D3 doesn't have pvp. D3 isn't an MMO.

Apples to Oranges

Well, as I said. There will be. At least if you read what Mike Morhaime said in this message: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4940437236

Edit. And also your completly missing the point. SV, without that much resources to stop shit like this, are trying to do SOMETHING about it. While Blizzard, that drown in money, does NOTHING about it. And as I said, most MMOs has had duping. It´s not like it´s unique to MO.

  Hancakes

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7/31/12 10:26:56 AM#37

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  Norpan

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7/31/12 11:17:29 AM#38
Originally posted by Hancakes

Everyones getting wrapped up on the specifics, the bigger point is MO still has working dupes.  Banning this guy for life (if SV had the capability) wont change a thing, someone else will still be duping.

 

Yeah, I guess I have to take your word for it. You seem reliable, and extremly neutral to MO and SV... Not. Either way, SV are doing SOMETHING about it. It's not like the OP tried to make it sound. "30 days ban for duping". Which has been made clear here several times.
  Hancakes

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7/31/12 11:26:22 AM#39
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Hancakes

Everyones getting wrapped up on the specifics, the bigger point is MO still has working dupes.  Banning this guy for life (if SV had the capability) wont change a thing, someone else will still be duping.

 

Yeah, I guess I have to take your word for it. You seem reliable, and extremly neutral to MO and SV... Not. Either way, SV are doing SOMETHING about it. It's not like the OP tried to make it sound. "30 days ban for duping". Which has been made clear here several times.

Could I get the coherent version? I have no idea what point youre trying to make if any.

SV is doing something about what? It sure isnt the duping which has plagued the game since beta.

  SaintPhilip

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7/31/12 12:10:22 PM#40
Originally posted by Norpan
Originally posted by Hancakes

Everyones getting wrapped up on the specifics, the bigger point is MO still has working dupes.  Banning this guy for life (if SV had the capability) wont change a thing, someone else will still be duping.

 

Yeah, I guess I have to take your word for it. You seem reliable, and extremly neutral to MO and SV... Not. Either way, SV are doing SOMETHING about it. It's not like the OP tried to make it sound. "30 days ban for duping". Which has been made clear here several times.

The problem is the AMOUNT of dupes and the length of time duping has been going on- In MO duping has been a major problem (along with cheats/exploits/corruption from the top down)  since Beta. These things are merely brushed under the rug and often censored away as if they do not exist.

I havnt a clue the dupes you guys say happen in WOW, but I played WOW for a long time and never saw it nor heard about it. I knew people who used Bots like the Glider- And ended up banned for life , but dupes? Nope.... Not saying it didnt happen but in MO its the Norm (seriously) and I think a great del of people have used them . A VERY LARGE % of the population, in fact.

No. Nothing is ever done. Cheaters get a "name change" if they are caught or in the case of Russian are given a "payoff"- And the shit contiinues. Same corruption, same dupes- And how many months since even a small Patch? Hence the dupes are still there.

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