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General Discussion  » When will people cry GW2 is dead?

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  Svarcanum

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7/28/12 6:28:09 AM#21
Sub games have an easier time sustaining a healthy player base, since those that pays feel compelled to play. B2P may have lots of people playing a few hours a week but that doesn't equal a healthy player base.

On topic, first cries will appear once the hardcore pve ers have reached 80.. So in 2-3 weeks. Doesn't mean they will be right though.
  Alot

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7/28/12 6:29:12 AM#22


Originally posted by otinanai123

Originally posted by Zeus.CM B2P games don't "die" so fast. Because people can return whenever they want, It will always have healthy population.
You didn't follow what happened with diablo 3 did you?

Neither did you, apparantly.

  BaraoNegro

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7/28/12 6:29:31 AM#23

GW2 will not die just yet. Did GW1 died? The true here is that, players like to disdain others games in contrast of the game they like, GW2 in this case. But all games have their place, incluiding GW2, in the market, it has his appeal and will live just as long as other games.

GW2 is a good game. Sure, some people may not like. Thats ok too. I cant understand why people need to create hate wars over the internet against X or Y game. Respect one another cant be that hard!

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OP  7/28/12 6:32:13 AM#24
Originally posted by BaraoNegro

GW2 will not die just yet. Did GW1 died? The true here is that, players like to disdain others games in contrast of the game they like, GW2 in this case. But all games have their place, incluiding GW2, in the market, it has his appeal and will live just as long as other games.

GW2 is a good game. Sure, some people may not like. Thats ok too. I cant understand why people need to create hate wars over the internet against X or Y game. Respect one another cant be that hard!

May I be the first to welcome you to our jaded comunity. lol And thanks for your post. I agree.

  Svarcanum

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7/28/12 6:32:26 AM#25
The difference between gw and gw2 is the server solution. The concurrent users in gw pve plummets by a lot after every expansion. But that doesn't really hurt the experience because there'll always be people around to play with. I. Gw2 if concurrent users plummet a month or two after release the des in orr and wvw will be quite boring. Since they depend on a certain server player base.
  ZenonSeth

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7/28/12 6:33:57 AM#26
Who's 'people'? There's always going to be someone that's going to be saying a game's dead even when there's others who are activly enjoying it.
Perhaps the more accurate shout should be 'this game is dead for me'.

In any case, GW1 has continued to have a decent population playing it, and I'm assuming nothing less of GW2. This game is going to be around for a while whether you like it or not.


The bigger hype has attracted more people who will like the game and continue to play it, but it's also attracted more people who just want to bash the game.
  Istavaan

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7/28/12 6:34:27 AM#27
Originally posted by The_Korrigan

And the point of this thread is? Help me out here, because I don't see one.

He is bitter that TOR failed.

  seridan

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7/28/12 6:34:33 AM#28
Originally posted by Isturi

I am tired of all these posters who post that (TOR) and other MMO's are dead because of X reasons. Just makes me laugh that people have to be so freakin dramatic to cry doom and gloom for a particular MMO.

So I ask how long will people start to announce that GW2 is dead. My guess will be about 3 months after launch. After they get fed up with the difficult game play that enriches GW2 after they get tied of losing a lot or all the time in PVP after they realize that they cant comperhind the meaning of having fun in a very well devoloped game.

I feel in reality that is the main reason why people cry doom and gloom for other MMO's

Around 3-4 years, maybe more

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  jondifool

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7/28/12 6:34:53 AM#29
Originally posted by lifeordinary
Originally posted by Zeus.CM

B2P games don't "die" so fast. Because people can return whenever they want, It will always have healthy population.

I disagree. First of all i really doubt that paying 15 bucks a month is big deal for majority of players secondly for people who consume content too fast and left with nothing to do at end they will quit regardless of game being P2P or B2P. Something that is to be seen with GW2 on release that for how long it can keep these players happy which are increasing in numbers every year.

It doesn't matter what the majority of players do want to pay,it matters how long. What matters is when subscribtion numbers begins to drop. Then people cry doom. This moment is normally a dreaded one in traditional mmo's, followed by server merges and rumours of going F2P. And unless its EVE, subscribtion numbers doesn't raise afterwards.

B2P is different and OP has a real question when and how to predict such a moment in B2P games? A moment that makes sense offcause , not players crying wolf.

My suggestion would be looking for an expansion that doesn't sell well because players don't come back too the game. The experience in GW1 was that players could take long breaks, even think they where absolute done with the game, only to find out later that they could still have a blast playing the game. ArenaNet have even told that they expereince a huge influx of returning players in the time just before new expansions in GW1.

But how to measure this, if the compagny doesn't release salesnumbers regular? Server population is hard to look at as players just will use the quest function to hang out places crowded enough for their taste. WvW will properly evolve to a subpart of the game that doesn't give a picture of how big the PvE population is.

 

read how to create a succesfull mmo before posting about GW2. And read tao of ArenaNet before talking about innovation in GW2

  Kyus_HoB

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7/28/12 6:37:16 AM#30
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by The_Korrigan

And the point of this thread is? Help me out here, because I don't see one.

He is bitter that TOR failed.

That is the correct term to go with, obviously TOR hasn't died, there are a lot of people still playing the game. What TOR did was "Flop". It did not deliver on what was promised by Bioware doing development and that was reflected in the reception of the game.

  Svarcanum

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7/28/12 6:37:51 AM#31
Gw2 will definitely need server merges quicker than most games. Since it is B2P and doesn't feature a gear grind to force people to play.
  unknown769

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7/28/12 6:38:44 AM#32
Originally posted by Isturi

I am tired of all these posters who post that (TOR) and other MMO's are dead because of X reasons. Just makes me laugh that people have to be so freakin dramatic to cry doom and gloom for a particular MMO.

So I ask how long will people start to announce that GW2 is dead. My guess will be about 3 months after launch. After they get fed up with the difficult game play that enriches GW2 after they get tied of losing a lot or all the time in PVP after they realize that they cant comperhind the meaning of having fun in a very well devoloped game.

I feel in reality that is the main reason why people cry doom and gloom for other MMO's

lol i understand your point but i dont think it will be the case in gw2,not even rift have that comment yet and still going on , knowing gw2 will have more people that rift have  by now  it will not be the case ..not even gw 1 have that issue  its basically a nonkillable game ..for now.

  otinanai123

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7/28/12 6:40:14 AM#33
Originally posted by Alot

 


Originally posted by otinanai123

Originally posted by Zeus.CM B2P games don't "die" so fast. Because people can return whenever they want, It will always have healthy population.
You didn't follow what happened with diablo 3 did you?

 

Neither did you, apparantly.

are you implying d3 has a healthy population right now?

  Zeus.CM

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7/28/12 6:41:02 AM#34
Originally posted by otinanai123
Originally posted by Alot

 


Originally posted by otinanai123

Originally posted by Zeus.CM B2P games don't "die" so fast. Because people can return whenever they want, It will always have healthy population.
You didn't follow what happened with diablo 3 did you?

 

Neither did you, apparantly.

are you implying d3 has a healthy population right now?

I didn't know D3 is mmo...

  Svarcanum

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7/28/12 6:42:47 AM#35
D3 is as much an mmo as gw1 is. Take it as you will, but people are throwing around gw1 as a comparison in this thread, so using d3 as well doesn't strike me as wrong
  otinanai123

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7/28/12 6:43:08 AM#36
Originally posted by Zeus.CM
Originally posted by otinanai123
Originally posted by Alot

 


Originally posted by otinanai123

Originally posted by Zeus.CM B2P games don't "die" so fast. Because people can return whenever they want, It will always have healthy population.
You didn't follow what happened with diablo 3 did you?

 

Neither did you, apparantly.

are you implying d3 has a healthy population right now?

I didn't know D3 is mmo...

So what? OP was talking about B2P games. Plus it's the closest to an MMO you can get.

  dlld

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7/28/12 6:46:24 AM#37

oohh.. an hour after launch

  Gorilla

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7/28/12 6:50:45 AM#38
When will people......? Don't you mean when did....? I would say march 27th 2007 (the day it was announced) people started saying it would be stillborn. Whatever.
  Icewhite

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7/28/12 6:52:13 AM#39
Originally posted by Svarcanum
D3 is as much an mmo as gw1 is. Take it as you will, but people are throwing around gw1 as a comparison in this thread, so using d3 as well doesn't strike me as wrong

Argument via analogy is minefield under the very best of circumstances at any rate.

There is no "wrong".  There is only weak analogy, and varying degrees of weak.

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  Gorilla

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7/28/12 6:52:29 AM#40
Originally posted by Svarcanum
Gw2 will definitely need server merges quicker than most games. Since it is B2P and doesn't feature a gear grind to force people to play.

 

Gear grind forces hamsters to play, the people have long since left.
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