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7/28/12 9:51:08 AM#101
Originally posted by Wickedjelly NGE killed SWG. Get over it like the rest of us did in 2005. |
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7/28/12 10:40:22 AM#102
Originally posted by lifeordinary I don't claim to be any sort of authority at all on the genre, I do however know what I like and what I do not and how much value I wil place on a game. If I had been able to find a box copy for 20 bucks, I would have bought it for a months play. At the end of that month I may or may not have subscribed, judging from what I experanced in the BWE's most likly I would have not
Anyway I bought Witcher 2 instead yesterday, not sure if that was worth the 20 or not either, not crazy about the controls I miss DAoC
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7/28/12 10:43:09 AM#103
Originally posted by lifeordinary I am actually surprised that IGN is still read/visited in all honesty. I can't stand the ad's and poor layout/content. However, I'd give the game a 7 as well. If they add an endgame (repeating missions as is the current "end game" in every MMO is not acceptable) my score would go up.
The bugs are annoying as hell, but I can get over them. |
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7/28/12 10:44:25 AM#104
Review seems fair. Game is fun, not incredible..for me game has been a decent hold-over until GW2 comes out. Not the most amazing game I've played but the scenario and dungeons are fun, I have enjoyed the setting, game seemed worth the 50$ to me, gave me at least a month of fun. |
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Weretigar
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Joined: 10/15/10
If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV. |
7/28/12 10:49:05 AM#105
I didn't play TSW With my headphones on so i wont comment about the sound. The Graphics thou i felt like it was san andreas themed with just a little but more evolved and the wierd animations definatly not a 10. Gameplay, dont put 1000 cars outside and not let me drive one that loses you a point right there lol. I;m not a fan personally. I think It's a fair review, a lot of people have said pros and cons on both sides. |
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7/28/12 11:21:36 AM#106
You know... as flawed as Metacritic is, there are still some interesting things you can see when you compare their weighted critic scores with the user scrores...let's take a look at a few:
The over-hyped: WOW: Critics = 93, Users = 6.9 WAR: Critics = 86, Users = 7.9 SWTOR: Critics = 85, Users = 5.6 Rift: Critics = 84, Users = 7.2
The nearly right: TERA: Critics = 77, Users = 7.2 LOTRO: Critics = 86, Users = 8.4
The underestimated: EVE: Critics = 69, Users = 7.9 DAoC: Critics = 88, Users = 9.5 TSW: Critics = 71, Users = 8.5
I don't know about you guys but my conclusion is that the users always have more realistic scores than the critics... which I find hilarious. |
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7/29/12 4:53:40 PM#107
Originally posted by Iselin The issue in a nutshell. Which makes the Fallout: New Vegas-Metacritic debacle even more rage-inducing.
Also the fact that devs are now starting to hire people partially based on the metacritic scores of applicants' previous games |
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7/29/12 6:52:55 PM#108
I think people that bash the graphics should consider a few things. First of all, TSW is not a fantasy game like pretty much every other MMO out there these days. Take GW2, WoW, Rift etc for example. All these games have fantasy characters that do not need resemble human faces, nor does the enviroment look real. It automatically becomes "easier" to make the graphics look nice. While you can argue about that the graphics should be better, you have to acknowledge the fact that MMO graphics will not, at least any time soon, resemble the graphics of a single player games. I also see people complaining about characters "hovering" when they run. That it doesn't feel as if the characters are moving on the ground, rather floating. This strikes me as confusing, since GW2 and WoW have the same thing and I don't see anyone complaining there. My conclusion is this: Since TSW is based on real world, it automatically becomes much more of a challange making the graphics awesome as you would expect from single players games. It is as I have mentioned much easier to "manipulate" the perception of "beautiful" graphics with Fantasy worlds than in trying to resemble a real world. I think that Funcom is doing a great job trying to make something new in the MMO genre. For all of those who are not impressed by the game you can always stick to the fantasy genre. |
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7/29/12 9:47:28 PM#109
Originally posted by Iselin Subjectivity =/= fact. Subjective consensus =/= fact.
Reviews, be they professional or layman, are simply tools to make a more educated decision. They are not right or wrong. The only person who can decide if anything is good or not is the person experiencing the event.
Sick and tired of people calling other people's opinions "wrong". Gaming is starting to be ruined by the fanatics. We’ll stop to sleep when the game is the best possible game we think it can be. We’ve seen the population of the game steadily rising lately and we’re not going to sit on our butts and congratulate one another, we’re going to try and build on that momentum and make the game even better. -Colin johanson on GW2 |
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7/30/12 2:46:00 AM#110
Originally posted by BadSpock EA paid more money. So hence the higher scrore. |
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7/30/12 2:52:30 AM#111
Originally posted by JeroKane thats exactly what it boils down to also I can honestly say even though i dont like TSW that much its way better then SWTOR. Its kinda funny though because you can always see whos actually paying for advertising and review space on websites by looking at SWTOR because everyone around knows it was a huge failure yet it has unrealistic reviews and ratings on sites. You can always tell when companies spend tons of advertising. None of these sites have any creditability anymore in my eyes. |
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7/30/12 3:02:02 AM#112
Originally posted by cronius77 That is why I don't bother reading reviews anymore on these so called "official" sites. They lost credibility long time ago, when you could clearly and so obviously link amount of advertisement to review scores. /sigh I rather read up on some nice player's blogs these days... much more informative and usefull. |
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7/30/12 3:08:22 AM#113
Originally posted by BadSpock i think TOR was a good game but it had nothing new to it, while TSW is the other way around it has a lot of new things but the Game itself is poor. |
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7/30/12 3:11:33 AM#114
yeah but honestly though its not even a fair rating to rate TOR higher then TSW even if its got its own issues. TOR is going down in history as the biggest trainwreck in mmo history and all the fan sites that gave it reviews off the charts deserve to go down with it IMO. |
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7/30/12 3:21:11 AM#115
Originally posted by lifeordinary Did you even read the post BadSpock quoted originally? You've lept on him like a rabid dog for responding to another poster who said they liked the game but only considered it a filler. His response was appropriate when directed to that ONE poster. Your response however was not as you have clearly assumed that he intended to imply that TSW is a filler game in general. Which he never once did. |
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7/30/12 7:39:14 AM#116
Originally posted by BadSpock
Yeah, it's become that way... |
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7/30/12 7:53:45 AM#117
Originally posted by Baddogbill
No. I think they do a good job with indy and small-studio games. Where I see them falling down on the job is they often (but not even always) rate shallow, high-production-values games from huge studios that have huge marketing budgets (that they depend on for revenue) much higher and with far less skepticism of the company claims they report as 'fact' than they should.
And let's be clear they have help from the companies on reviews. How many SWTOR reviews claimed 200 of unique class story? Ask how many of us (that are honest about it) how many hours of unique class story were there? It was about 2 hour per planet, maybe 20 hours all together. 20 =/= 200 The rest was generic, non-class-quest side missions.
Where did all those reviewers come up with 200? Did they crib each others reviews? Nope. That was a BioWare truth claim that was a flat-out lie. One of many included in the press kit the press used to write their reviews. [1]
[1] I was a CPA in Hollywood, then a CPA in Nashville with 22 years total experience including my first staff posting. I learned a lot by observing how it really works. Movies, albums, games, etc., all come with press kits on release to 'help' the reviewer (which includes sample reviews). The general rule of thumb is 'the bigger the kit, the worse the product.' Sadly, while movie reviewers have long since figured this out, game reviewers haven't seemed to have figured this out; probably because the high churn-over, low standards and lack of integrity due to the revenue model of the industry.
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7/30/12 7:56:34 AM#118
Originally posted by Whyhate
They also gave Spore a huge score and SWTOR a huge score. I got my 're-subscribe' envelop in the mail. I'm like "nope.' The past couple of years its gotten so bad that all I read is the hardware reviews...
Sad too, I susbcribed from issue 5 and read it from issue 1. In the early days, it save me a LOT of money on bad product. Now it tells me bad product is good product... |
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7/30/12 8:02:52 AM#119
Originally posted by Loke666
No, I checked. But it's irrelelvant. You run any business and the product needs, no matter who prepared the tax return, cooked the steak, re-glazed the window or whatever it is you're selling, be uniform, consistent and 'perfect'. Every single time. |
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7/30/12 8:03:29 AM#120
My score (the most important ones!!) Sounds 7/10 (compared to what Funcom has done in the past this is a bit of a let down) Graphics 10/10 (as usual from Funcom, this is what they can do) Gameplay 7/10 (maybe even 6 because of lack of options) Presentation 9/10 (very well done story videos) Lastability 4/10 (this might change as they are ambitious with montly updates, but the core game sucks) Basically you have 3 choices - Missions, Dungeons or PvP Missions are static, so you cannot repeat them and have fun... Dungeons are out because it is more about Dancing than Killing and somehow a brain tumour got a GateKeeper to keep casual players out of the Endgame dungeons. PvP is out - It is more Stun vs Stun than anything i have encountered so far. the core game is in toruble, and while i can see a good amount of appeal for the story, the story really has been found by many players to be lacking with only a few really good spots here and there. Overall this game is worth seeing, but not playing long time. |
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