Originally posted by Aerowyn

I second this:)  I been playing online games well before EQ since MUDs on the good old BBS. This one is most fun I have had since.. well... can't remember since when.

Why are you having so much fun?

Game is all right. The engine really isn't very well optimized at this point (I should get more than mid-20s FPS on my rig), but it is still beta.

I'll pick it up at some point most likely, but it isn't a 'day 1' purchase for me.

Played the Beta for like an hour.... ( was my 1st time obviously ) and I gotta say that it's a fun game, already preordered, even if I only play it for a few weeks/month, it'll be worth it, besides, it's just money.

Originally posted by Mephster

Another BWE and yet to come out satisfied. This a just zerg fest from start to finish . The events are really no different than clicking on a npc asking you to go kill 10 rats. The art style is colorful but it seems it was made to attract the teenagers of the world. The 5v5 pvp was such a disappointment, they are nothing more than glorified alliance battles which back in the day people shunned at as being real pvp.  The Word pvp is nothing more than a huge zerg fest which was unappealing to me. 

Now I am not saying there is this all great mmo out there because there isn't and I am not really trying to compare mmos here but this mmo is really no different than what we have been playing for the past 10 years or so. I played the original for 5+ years and loved every minute of it. It seems ArenaNet has changed that winning formula because I have this off feeing they changed the combat system to have it appeal to console players. Console players are used to that action dodge and roll combat while pc gamers are more used to something more tactical. After all these years of GW2 being in developement this is what we got ? Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

Originally posted by Sorrow

I  really am starting to wonder about this as well, it is VERY VERY obvious with GW2 that 90%( or better ) of the people that play it LOVE it and feel its the best game they have ever played.

However for some reason there is this handful of people that keep posting over and over again trying to convince us that the game is horrible and we are all wrong.

Honestly I just do not get it because, as I stated earlier this one is  OBVIOUS. 

Read the posts,  spend time on ANY social media site,  go out with friends or family, listen to in game chat.. EVERYWHERE you go it really is all gamers are raving about. 

 

So, because of this obvious factor, it really makes the few negative posters really stand out and brings a lot of focus on just how disingenuous, and inaccurate the complaints being made really are. It really seems to me the people making these complaints really have not even played the game at all.

Sorrow -

These kind of posts/replies are just fueling the flames  You are complaining about some "fishy" negative posts and then basically go on to say that anyone who criticisizes the game to be in the wrong.

Sorry, but that's not very fair.

I see a lot of positive posts here about the game, but my circle of friends have all been disappointed and other sites have been 50/50 from what I have seen.

Personally, I find it suspect when after only playing a few BWE people can go on to claim it's the BEST mmo they've ever played/played in x years.  Again, it's the double standards...everyone complains about not giving enough time to properly review an MMO and then those same people proclaim an MMO one of the best after a few weekends.

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by Aerowyn

I second this:)  I been playing online games well before EQ since MUDs on the good old BBS. This one is most fun I have had since.. well... can't remember since when.

Why are you having so much fun?

For starters the devs did one hell of a job with the quest design. You could be defending a caravan for example from an attack one moment and the next fighting a Boss. Even if you are not in a group you are still rewarded. The transition from solo play to the dynamic event is effortless and fun. The events are not all as epic as the last but they are for the most part well thought out. The combat on my Thief is kick ass to watch. The NPC because of the way the interact with you and the world around them seem like they are other players. You even resurrect them like other players. The conversations they have with you and each other are relevant to what is going on around them. The attention to the little things adds to the fun factor. The way that weapons and weapon combinations vary your moves and abilities adds to the fun. You feel powerful very early in the game. I mean at level 10 you are a bad ass and look the part vs. other MMOs where low level play is (except TSW). The art style and environment also adds to the fun factor because of the beauty of the world around you. I mean if you have a good PC you are constantly stopping and looking at the Vistas and amazing views. Add it all together and it is pretty much non stop and I cant stress enough non stop fun. (Just my opinion of course.)

Originally posted by Istavaan

The problem is that the people who don't like guild wars 2 are posting unconstructive threads, that start with guild wars 2 sucks or all guild wars 2 players are retards. Then they get deserperate and start spreading misinformation, it is very obvious from just reading a thread if that person has actually played the game..all those p2w comment..those guys haven't invested enough time into the game to see that their comments are a complete fallacy.

The problem is that from a fanboy point of view everyone who say something negative about gw2 is a hater, even when they are right. GW2 is a good game, but thats all, some people are talking about the best game of all times, you need at least a month or less to find if that is truth or not, pretty much everything on gw2 was done before and im not even talking now about the copy and paste of warhammer RvR sytem into the WvWvW. People should play the game at least 15 days, and then come back here and talk about why is the best MMO in the market.

I felt what you felt with the previous betas. I really like the sylvari. However, there is something that really bothers me about this game. Y'know how you character speaks to people during the personal story right? Like the game opens up a separate screen and all to focus on the people talking. It looks a little fake. The character expressions stay the same and sometimes dont tend to look at the person they're talking to. Like their eyes keep darting in different directions and the way they stand makes it look like they're reading lines of a script while standing on a stage. That completely wipes out any sense of immersion that I get from this game. I like how TOR did it. TOR could have been a really nice single player RP tbh. Oh well.

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by Istavaan

The problem is that the people who don't like guild wars 2 are posting unconstructive threads, that start with guild wars 2 sucks or all guild wars 2 players are retards. Then they get deserperate and start spreading misinformation, it is very obvious from just reading a thread if that person has actually played the game..all those p2w comment..those guys haven't invested enough time into the game to see that their comments are a complete fallacy.

The problem is that from a fanboy point of view everyone who say something negative about gw2 is a hater, even when they are right. GW2 is a good game, but thats all, some people are talking about the best game of all times, you need at least a month or less to find if that is truth or not, pretty much everything on gw2 was done before and im not even talking now about the copy and paste of warhammer RvR sytem into the WvWvW. People should play the game at least 15 days, and then come back here and talk about why is the best MMO in the market.

As soon as someone trucks out the 'fanboi' statement, you know which direction they are going. Also, why (if it would take 15 days to tell if you love a game) would you be able to tell you hate a game in an hour or less as some of the 'negatives' have stated plainly.

I am not going to argue for or against the game though I do happen to like it a lot. Just hate illogical arguements.

Originally posted by XPraetorianX

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by Aerowyn

I second this:)  I been playing online games well before EQ since MUDs on the good old BBS. This one is most fun I have had since.. well... can't remember since when.

Why are you having so much fun?

For starters the devs did one hell of a job with the quest design. You could be defending a caravan for example from an attack one moment and the next fighting a Boss. Even if you are not in a group you are still rewarded. The transition from solo play to the dynamic event is effortless and fun. The events are not all as epic as the last but they are for the most part well thought out. The combat on my Thief is kick ass to watch. The NPC because of the way the interact with you and the world around them seem like they are other players. You even resurrect them like other players. The conversations they have with you and each other are relevant to what is going on around them. The attention to the little things adds to the fun factor. The way that weapons and weapon combinations vary your moves and abilities adds to the fun. You feel powerful very early in the game. I mean at level 10 you are a bad ass and look the part vs. other MMOs where low level play is (except TSW). The art style and environment also adds to the fun factor because of the beauty of the world around you. I mean if you have a good PC you are constantly stopping and looking at the Vistas and amazing views. Add it all together and it is pretty much non stop and I cant stress enough non stop fun. (Just my opinion of course.)

^ sumed some of it up for me:) on top of that the PVP is a blast as well just so much to like here, races are interesting, all the classes play and feel differn't and the mechanics of them are just so enjoyable.. could go on but you get the idea.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by XPraetorianX

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by Aerowyn

I second this:)  I been playing online games well before EQ since MUDs on the good old BBS. This one is most fun I have had since.. well... can't remember since when.

Why are you having so much fun?

For starters the devs did one hell of a job with the quest design. You could be defending a caravan for example from an attack one moment and the next fighting a Boss. Even if you are not in a group you are still rewarded. The transition from solo play to the dynamic event is effortless and fun. The events are not all as epic as the last but they are for the most part well thought out. The combat on my Thief is kick ass to watch. The NPC because of the way the interact with you and the world around them seem like they are other players. You even resurrect them like other players. The conversations they have with you and each other are relevant to what is going on around them. The attention to the little things adds to the fun factor. The way that weapons and weapon combinations vary your moves and abilities adds to the fun. You feel powerful very early in the game. I mean at level 10 you are a bad ass and look the part vs. other MMOs where low level play is (except TSW). The art style and environment also adds to the fun factor because of the beauty of the world around you. I mean if you have a good PC you are constantly stopping and looking at the Vistas and amazing views. Add it all together and it is pretty much non stop and I cant stress enough non stop fun. (Just my opinion of course.)

^ sumed some of it up for me:) on top of that the PVP is a blast as well just so much to like here, races are interesting, all the classes play and feel differn't and the mechanics of them are just so enjoyable.. could go on but you get the idea.

His answer was better tanh yours :p 

Depth of enviornment, and and class mechanics. Fair enough.

Originally posted by Ikonis
It is for me. Combination of so so gameplay and the overly arrogant, smug community has turned me away.

Now that's a first. Almost everyone I talked into the game was nice, informative, helpful and fun. I can see people disliking the gameplay (Hell, people buy the Twilight series and enjoy them, right? To each his own). But the community in the game, PvE or PvP is very mature and fun to be with.

I have over 410 days /played on my WoW account and stopped playing mid way through WotLK.

I think it's fairly safe to say I'll be clocking much more time on my GW2 account than that.

Yeah, it's the end for me too.  I lasted two days in this beta, and just never could latch onto the game.  I just found it...dull.  I can certainly appreciate some of the things they are trying to do with the game, but everything just felt off to me, and nothing really captured my attention.  I think the main thing that turned me off was the combat.  Absolutely hated it, and I can't really put my finger on why I hated it.  Again, it just felt off.  

I also should put a disclaimer that I only made it to level 12 in the two days of playing, so I didn't exactly see a great portion of the game.  My sub-par experience could soley be attributed to that fact.  However, I'm going to hold GW2 to the same standard that many of you have held other games in the past:  If the game can't rope you in at the beginning, then it's doing something wrong.     

Originally posted by evilastro

Do we really need a new thread everytime someone doesn't like this game?

Plenty of us decided not to buy TSW after trying beta, but we all didnt start a new thread. Same with TERA. Why is GW2 so special that everyone needs to make their own thread about it not living up to their standards?

Amen. guild wars causes a weird effect on those who dislike/hate it.... publishing how much you dislike something seems to be a must these days, specially without a solid reason.. (the OP seems ok, just a little burned out of the genre)... i dont like diablo 3, still i dont go and make a thread about it, same with swtor... (however i secretly enjoyed watching it sink after the overconfidence shown by its CEOs).... unless you have some solid comparables, extensive argument and a proper sense of statement, your cristism would be invalid.... not only for GW2 but for any comment on......anything.....

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Originally posted by Ikonis
It is for me. Combination of so so gameplay and the overly arrogant, smug community has turned me away.

Now that's a first. Almost everyone I talked into the game was nice, informative, helpful and fun. I can see people disliking the gameplay (Hell, people buy the Twilight series and enjoy them, right? To each his own). But the community in the game, PvE or PvP is very mature and fun to be with.

Numerous hours in all three beta weekends and I only saw one troll in game. Who was ignored by...well everyone. GW2 is the best thing to come out since WoW in 2004. I'll be jonesing for the next month now.

How do threads based on grossly overgeneralized cliche troll statements continue to generate several pages of responses?