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  Talonsin

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7/22/12 9:58:20 AM#41
Originally posted by Mephster

Another BWE and yet to come out satisfied. This a just zerg fest from start to finish . The events are really no different than clicking on a npc asking you to go kill 10 rats. The art style is colorful but it seems it was made to attract the teenagers of the world. The 5v5 pvp was such a disappointment, they are nothing more than glorified alliance battles which back in the day people shunned at as being real pvp.  The Word pvp is nothing more than a huge zerg fest which was unappealing to me. 

Now I am not saying there is this all great mmo out there because there isn't and I am not really trying to compare mmos here but this mmo is really no different than what we have been playing for the past 10 years or so. I played the original for 5+ years and loved every minute of it. It seems ArenaNet has changed that winning formula because I have this off feeing they changed the combat system to have it appeal to console players. Console players are used to that action dodge and roll combat while pc gamers are more used to something more tactical. After all these years of GW2 being in developement this is what we got ? Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

You are comparing the game to other MMO's and saying it has all the same aspects but what about monthly subscription fee?  In GW2 you get pretty much all the features of others MMO's but dont have to pay a monthly fee.  That is simply incredible in this age of money-grubbing MMO's like STO where even though it is F2P, you have to pay to open loot boxes. 

  User Deleted
7/22/12 10:00:53 AM#42
Originally posted by strangepower

Sorry you did not like it, thanks for sharing.

Good thing you have choices.

As far as the bashing going on; it's a symptom resulting from dealing with a countless number of posts from individuals blogging personal opinions regarding games as opposed to creating a thread with an objective topic.

Forums have gone from discussions about "things" to the airing of peoples "feelings."

Personally when I read the OP my first thought was... Uhh so what... some random guy doesn't like it.

 

I would hardly call my responses - 'bashing'. I haven't told him that he is wrong or that his opinion is invalid. Just that we don't need another thread when there are plenty already to add his opinion to.

Multiple threads like this just dilute access to real discussions.

  Amjoco

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7/22/12 10:01:52 AM#43
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

[mod edit]

So true. :) 

I for one am going to be disappointed for the next several years! /sarcasm

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  Yaevindusk

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7/22/12 10:02:24 AM#44

 

I must say that I disagree with everything that you said, aside from the potential "zergfest" of World Vs. World.  Though it is often difficult to find the jewel in something when you are so jaded and cynical to actually look for everything or bring it to a base design.  The amount of interaction and planning involved in being a top rated World whenever my guild played was monumental by comparison of any other game since Ultima Online Fel. days; the discussions of simple things to more basic to squads and the diversion of forces was incredibly fun.  Even acquiring siege weapons, working on getting NPC allies, and communicating how many supplies we have and how we need to conserve or resupply was fantastic.

 

One thing I have noticed is that whenever someone says "It's for kids / teenagers" it's typically a response of someone who isn't that old themselves or simply does not understand the game industry at all.  This is especially true for people who complain about graphics and claim that blood / death / sex scenes makes something adult.  What Guild Wars II encompasses is something that World of Warcraft has long lost:  Adventure, exploration, intrigue and, indeed, even the ability to replicate the legendary Alterac Valley (with obvious differences that are strongly influenced by RvR) with dozens of secondary objectives in World vs. World and the ability to last days on end.

 

Though ultimately, I have noticed that with your posts there seems to be a sort of... unity that brings people together.  Whenever you make a post about Guild Wars 2, it ends up allowing people to talk more about how they love it.  It's an incredible positive factor that is rather intriguing to me on a scholastic level.  Though aside fromt he positive outlook I have on your posts, I'm truly wondering if you managed to play the game at all if all you have in your own repertoire of information for the game is a comparison of "killing ten rats."  By basic definition anything could be broken down to the most mundane of elements.  It may be a unwilling nature to do the necessary research in a game, it may be your ignorance in claiming past tendancies, though I'm simply unconvinced that any sort of effort was put into the game by reading this.

 

Is it the heart system that leads you to this conclusion?  A system that was added late for simple direction and not intended as a quest hub replacement?  Was it your inability to progress far into the game and witness 55+ areas last beta weekened?  Perhaps a lack of interest that attributed to not reading or listening to how end game areas are void of hearts and focus dominantly upon vast that are important to the lore as a whole?  Was a single dungeon even traversed in the game, any of the features that were added in the last beta reviewed, or any effort at all committed other than repetitively stating the word "zerg" and "disappointed"?

 

I'm am truly curious about these messages, as all evidence points to the contrary of statements that are intended to convince me of something -- not that the game is any good as that can only be decided by the individual -- but that you put an honest effort into the game without a sort of jaded influence that commonly blocks one's logical perception of reality.  But, oh well... No matter.  I whole heartedly accept that everyone has different tastes (and thus I know a great many people won't play this game), but it does not disallow me to point out questions that arise through extreme contradictions and I am adament to separate those who genuinely dislike and understand the game, and those who hate the game just because it is their instinct in doing so (through whatever means).

 

I must admit that I have a completely bias hatred towards The Secret World due to following it for so long, playing the beta and then ignorantly claiming that the reason I don't play it is because I don't approve of the Box - Sub - Cash shop trio hounding me in game.  Though I'd like to think that I've matured enough to not hound their forums with baseless accusations based on beta and my limited experience in the low level zones without looking deeply at what is there.  They like the game for their own reasons that are beyond my knowledge.  They know the game better than I do.  Sure, I get the urge to say something to the contrary whenever I see a message saying how the game is so great, and how their love for it leads them to comparing it to other games, but how can I truly say I know better?  How can I look at myself in the mirror and not see a troll just speaking out of a bias and jaded nature, especially if it's an intent to ruin their fun or discredit their beliefs?  I know nothing of the game from my beta experience.  To use my limited knowledge would be folly -- and I have not put in the hours to do proper research and would full well expect people to call me on it.

 

Hopefully you'll find a game that is liked by you.

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  Aerowyn

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7/22/12 10:04:46 AM#45
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

[mod edit]

probably not.. i can see peoples obsession with hanging onto swtor since its a famous IP and you don't have many sci-fi MMOs out there but there are TONS of fantasy games around so honestly if you hate this game why not move on?

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  just1opinion

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7/22/12 10:05:17 AM#46

 

I actually disagree with everything the OP said.  Not one thing that was stated is true for me.  Now I understand he's entitled to his own opinion, but so am I.  So, OP....go back to playing something else or waiting for YOUR next big game.  Many of us will be playing GW2.....happily.  That shouldn't adversely affect you at all.  There will come a game you'll like, eventually.  Or maybe you've just "out grown" MMOs.  Perhaps it's just not your cup of tea any longer.

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  Badaboom

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7/22/12 10:08:02 AM#47
My mmo days are done...everything except gw2. It's really clicking with me.
  Maitrader

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Joined: 7/29/08
Posts: 431

7/22/12 10:08:25 AM#48
Originally posted by Mephster

Another BWE and yet to come out satisfied. This a just zerg fest from start to finish . The events are really no different than clicking on a npc asking you to go kill 10 rats. The art style is colorful but it seems it was made to attract the teenagers of the world. The 5v5 pvp was such a disappointment, they are nothing more than glorified alliance battles which back in the day people shunned at as being real pvp.  The Word pvp is nothing more than a huge zerg fest which was unappealing to me. 

Now I am not saying there is this all great mmo out there because there isn't and I am not really trying to compare mmos here but this mmo is really no different than what we have been playing for the past 10 years or so. I played the original for 5+ years and loved every minute of it. It seems ArenaNet has changed that winning formula because I have this off feeing they changed the combat system to have it appeal to console players. Console players are used to that action dodge and roll combat while pc gamers are more used to something more tactical. After all these years of GW2 being in developement this is what we got ? Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

I think this its a great game, but alas, I only have time for one MMO, and that MMO is hands-down TSW

  Terranah

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Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 3618

7/22/12 10:09:14 AM#49

So far I'm a little disappointed, but it could be I haven't put enough time in yet.  I also had the feeling of been there done that but that is not to say it's not a good game, but maybe I've just been there done that too many times.

 

I'm going to try again today.  Wish me luck.

  teakbois

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Posts: 2190

7/22/12 10:09:37 AM#50
Originally posted by Mephster

This a just zerg fest from start to finish . The events are really no different than clicking on a npc asking you to go kill 10 rats. The art style is colorful but it seems it was made to attract the teenagers of the world. 

There is not liking the game, and then there is posting crap like this.  GW2 isnt going to be for everyone, thats obvious.  But Ive been laying MMORPGs since the early EQ days and theme parks since EQ2 and WoW released and Ive done my share of kill 10 rats.  GW2 is a completely different take on the levelling and questing process.  And the graphics made to attract the teenagers of the world?  Other than having boobs out everywhere, how exactly do you attract teenagers graphically?  Its fine if you dont like the art style, but come on, you sound like you are just reaching for things to bash a game here.  

  Aerowyn

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7/22/12 10:10:19 AM#51
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

[mod edit]

[mod edit]

there is a differnce between people who down right do not like the game at all and people who sort of are on the fence but don't like aspects of the game but would like to discuss things they dislike or like. Poeple who down right hate the game are not having discussions they are just bashing as nothing you discuss with them matters since they already made their final opinion of the game and will not being playing it. So why do those people hang around the gw2 forums just to bash it other than to troll others who enjoy it?

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

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OP  7/22/12 10:18:32 AM#52
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

[mod edit]

[mod edit]

there is a differnce between people who down right do not like the game at all and people who sort of are on the fence but don't like aspects of the game but would like to discuss things they dislike or like. Poeple who down right hate the game are not having discussions they are just bashing as nothing you discuss with them matters since they already made their final opinion of the game and will not being playing it. So why do those people hang around the gw2 forums just to bash it other than to troll others who enjoy it?

Troll, it is the most misued and ugly word. You see on these forums anyone can post anywhere because there is no such thing as those who only like the game get to post on a particular part of the forums. These forums are an open book for anyone to express their opinions. It is about learning to respect others opinions even if they don't relay their message in the best way possible. How many times have we seen people post on TOR, WAR, and AOC forums on a daily basis and yet they don't play or even like the game. Sorry but people need to learn to respect others opinions and clearly if someone doesn't love something about someone elses favorite mmo they are labeled a troll or hater. Seriously ? Pretty much a joke if you ask me. The crazy thing is that I have been a fan of Guild Wars for a long time and now since I dislike the way GW2 plays I'm a troll, hater or some other word they can conjure up to defend their favorite game.

  Aerowyn

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7/22/12 10:23:02 AM#53
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

Since your GW2 days are "over" does that mean you will no longer have need to post almost daily on GW2 threads stating in various ways your dislike for the game?

I mean, that would make sense. Right?

So you only like threads that agree with the way you think ? I think some people should not even be on forums. It is getting worse, they let anyone in these days.

there is a differnce between people who down right do not like the game at all and people who sort of are on the fence but don't like aspects of the game but would like to discuss things they dislike or like. Poeple who down right hate the game are not having discussions they are just bashing as nothing you discuss with them matters since they already made their final opinion of the game and will not being playing it. So why do those people hang around the gw2 forums just to bash it other than to troll others who enjoy it?

Troll, it is the most misued and ugly word. You see on these forums anyone can post anywhere because there is no such thing as those who only like the game get to post on a particular part of the forums. These forums are an open book for anyone to express their opinions. It is about learning to respect others opinions even if they don't relay their message in the best way possible. How many times have we seen people post on TOR, WAR, and AOC forums on a daily basis and yet they don't play or even like the game. Sorry but people need to learn to respect others opinions and clearly if someone doesn't love something about someone elses favorite mmo they are labeled a troll or hater. Seriously ? Pretty much a joke if you ask me. The crazy thing is that I have been a fan of Guild Wars for a long time and now since I dislike the way GW2 plays I'm a troll, hater or some other word they can conjure up to defend their favorite game.

from mmorpg.com posting rules there is a lot of this going on now in these forums which is why some people get hostile over the continuous negative threads posted about the game

Trolling

  • Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
    For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.
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  User Deleted
7/22/12 10:23:16 AM#54
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

Since your GW2 days are "over" does that mean you will no longer have need to post almost daily on GW2 threads stating in various ways your dislike for the game?

I mean, that would make sense. Right?

So you only like threads that agree with the way you think ? I think some people should not even be on forums. It is getting worse, they let anyone in these days.

Your OP wasn't too bad, but you're ruining it now.

Now that you told us that you won't play, and why you won't play, what's the point of staying here and "pee into other people's cheerios", so to say?

For instance, the moment the beta of TSW was over and I stopped playing, I also stopped posting on the TSW forums. I didn't see any valid reason to stay there making negative posts, I said what I had to say and that's it. It's not hard, you should try.

  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 1032

7/22/12 10:24:58 AM#55
Originally posted by WhiteCross

yea, GW2 is an awesome MMO.

You're in the minority bud.

Not sure if you're trolling, or just clueless.

Im not so sure about the ¨minority¨, [mod edit] gw2 is a good game, but thats all, most of the people are there for the WvWvW, the PvE is just a cheap copy of rift and warhammer and at this point is just a zerg fest, it will be even worse at launch, i mean u can just earn some money and xp running around with the zerg or just clicking some AOEs in the DE zones and at least you buy xp boost to level up fast, it will be like that all the way till 80. [mod edit]

  gatheris

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Joined: 9/09/06
Posts: 1011

7/22/12 10:25:30 AM#56

first beta weekend for me

must be quite enjoyable as i paid no attention to time (my saturday disappeared) even though i was planning on just checking it out for a bit to make sure it was what i was looking for

and yes i love the artstyle and it is such a relief from SWTOR (a game i purchased only because a friend kept hounding me - i won't be coerced again), so much color compared to the "wash" that was SWTOR

basically the game made me smile while i was playing - i have a game that is like work - EVE, but it's a job i want to do other than have to do - so it's a great game to play for just plain fun

 

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4615

7/22/12 10:26:06 AM#57
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by Mephster

Very disappointed on how everything about GW2 has turned out. Good luck to those who continue!

Since your GW2 days are "over" does that mean you will no longer have need to post almost daily on GW2 threads stating in various ways your dislike for the game?

I mean, that would make sense. Right?

So you only like threads that agree with the way you think ? I think some people should not even be on forums. It is getting worse, they let anyone in these days.

Your OP wasn't too bad, but you're ruining it now.

Now that you told us that you won't play, and why you won't play, what's the point of staying here and "pee into other people's cheerios", so to say?

For instance, the moment the beta of TSW was over and I stopped playing, I also stopped posting on the TSW forums. I didn't see any valid reason to stay there making negative posts, I said what I had to say and that's it. It's not hard, you should try.

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  tasasas

Novice Member

Joined: 4/14/11
Posts: 12

7/22/12 10:27:12 AM#58

Let me tell you this. This is the first MMO after UO which I didnt delete after first day of play (hello aoc, swtor, rift and tsw).

  MMOGamer71

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Joined: 11/12/07
Posts: 1687

7/22/12 10:27:18 AM#59

Nope, awesome game and preordered 4 copies.

 

  lilHeala

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Joined: 8/30/11
Posts: 530

7/22/12 10:29:43 AM#60

To each their own. Personally I'm glad they got rid of the GW1 formula that you call winning as I didn't like that game much during its prime time and I absolutely love GW2.

Same for the "it's the same thing we've been playing the last 10 years" comment. Before GW2 BWE's I was also bored of mmo's in general, none of them was satisfactory anymore in the things I like doing best in mmo's these days. Then GW2 came along and it felt like the best mmo experience ever for me, combining all aspects I would like to see in a game and doing it well. So something's gotta be different that makes me very excited for GW2 and very bored of the games of the past 10 years.

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