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  cronius77

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7/20/12 11:28:38 AM#21
Originally posted by Garvon3
Originally posted by MattVid
Originally posted by Garvon3

Hearts sound like quests to me, the boring grindey WoW like variety. Are they important, can I completely ignore them and still progress?

 

Hearts are pretty boring, honestly. They are not really the intended "content" of the game, they are mainly for guidance. Most dynamic events happen around these hearts. You can still progress without doing them, but I would recommend finishing them.They give experience, and also, finishing an entire zone gives you experience and a loot reward (exploring all areas, getting all skill points and filling all hearts). However, you can complete hearts by doing DE's in the same area.

 

Originally posted by Garvon3

And last, do you get points like realm points for killing others in RvR, like you did in DAoC? Does winning benefit my realm?

No, just experience, karma and money in World vs. World. Killing people just yeilds experience. Holding objectives gives bonuses to your realm in the form of bonus HP, gold loot increase, crafting crit chance, etc. The more points you score, the more bonuses you get. Beyond that, there are no other bonuses that I know of.

 

So these items are like the relics in DAoC? One side holds them and gets their benefit while others try to take them back?

And this karma stuff, you use it to make you stronger in PvP? That's more or less what I was looking for. DAoC gave you realm points if you killed people which you could use to buy stronger guards, siege stuff, or give yourself some special PvP abilities.

karma is currency for all parts of the game just like coin. If you played warhammer and remember everytime you did a pq you filled up a influence bar? its similiar to that except universal in you can use it anywhere in the game that has karma vendors. There is no realm point system like in DAOC to buy gear you can earn karma by doing pqs or DEs as they call them here in pve as well. I think i did about 3k karma last beta event from just world vs world and was able to pretty much buy anything i wanted. Orbs of power are not really relics as they only effect pvp . They are stored similiar to relic keeps in DAOC but much easier to obtain then DAOC had them. They are not as powerful either as DAOC relics but similiar in concept.

  MattVid

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7/20/12 11:33:15 AM#22
Originally posted by Garvon3
Originally posted by MattVid
Originally posted by Garvon3

Hearts sound like quests to me, the boring grindey WoW like variety. Are they important, can I completely ignore them and still progress?

 

Hearts are pretty boring, honestly. They are not really the intended "content" of the game, they are mainly for guidance. Most dynamic events happen around these hearts. You can still progress without doing them, but I would recommend finishing them.They give experience, and also, finishing an entire zone gives you experience and a loot reward (exploring all areas, getting all skill points and filling all hearts). However, you can complete hearts by doing DE's in the same area.

 

Originally posted by Garvon3

And last, do you get points like realm points for killing others in RvR, like you did in DAoC? Does winning benefit my realm?

No, just experience, karma and money in World vs. World. Killing people just yeilds experience. Holding objectives gives bonuses to your realm in the form of bonus HP, gold loot increase, crafting crit chance, etc. The more points you score, the more bonuses you get. Beyond that, there are no other bonuses that I know of.

 

So these items are like the relics in DAoC? One side holds them and gets their benefit while others try to take them back?

And this karma stuff, you use it to make you stronger in PvP? That's more or less what I was looking for. DAoC gave you realm points if you killed people which you could use to buy stronger guards, siege stuff, or give yourself some special PvP abilities.


Good question, there are "relics" (called Orbs of Power) in the world vs. world. Basically, each side starts off with 1 each. Which gives a 5% bonus HP (I think). So if you capture all 3, you get a 15% HP boost in the PvP area (RvR/WvW). I don't believe this carries over to PvE. Not as powerful as DAoC, but it makes a difference.

The bonuses I was referring to above is almost like "leveling up your realm". The more objectives you hold, the more points you get each time the WvW zone "scores". Get enough points, and you get a boost for your realm. There are probably 10-12 different boosts you can get, and multiple tiers. They are rather small, starting in the 1% range and moving up from there.

Karma is used to buy gear/stuff from Karma vendors. Karma and money is used to upgrade guards, keeps and purchase upgrades at objectives. So yes, it is sort of the same thing as DAoC, however Karma is also used (and gained) in the PvE areas to get items as well. Karma is awarded for completely basically any event in the game, whether that be WvW PvP objectives or a Dynamic Event in PvE.

  stragen001

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7/20/12 11:38:18 AM#23
Originally posted by Garvon3

Can anyone answer me two questions? I've gone into this game mostly blind, for the first time since... well, my first MMO. I've ignored most of the videos and feature lists. But something I heard and was excited about was that this game had no quests.

Then I heard about hearts.

Hearts sound like quests to me, the boring grindey WoW like variety. Are they important, can I completely ignore them and still progress?

 

And last, do you get points like realm points for killing others in RvR, like you did in DAoC? Does winning benefit my realm?

Hearts are not the main point of this game, and its a shame ANet had to put them in at all. They were only included because they got feedback saying people were "lost" without any "questgivers". They pretty much are as you described - standard quests. They are actually set up so they are more like player triggered events. They are NOT the main content of the game though. They are just supposed to guide you to an area where there are likely to be lots of dynamic events happening. 

About 1/2 way through BWE1 I figured out not to just run around doing all the heart quests, and started exploring the world myself. THAT is they way to play the game. Explore the world, and experience the dynamic events as they happen around you. Once a DE is finished, hang around for a bit before running off and listen to the NPCs -- it will often chain to a new DE. Only when there isnt anything else going on head towards the hearts, and normally when you get there you will find DEs happening that allow you to complete the heart quests by doing them anyway.

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