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  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6588

7/20/12 10:18:38 PM#21
Originally posted by erictlewis
Originally posted by dreamscaper
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Mounted combat is something rarely tried in a MMO.  I am looking forward to trying this out in Lotro, of course I need to get at least one of my avatar's to 75 first which of course means I have to spend a lot of time in Moria, ugh.

How so? EverQuest 2 had mounted combat since it launched back in 2004.

I always loved to fight with my Paladin from his white armored horse. :)


The poster said, rarely tried, not that it had never been tried before. Also, as someone who has played EQ2 extensively, I can honestly say that I do NOT consider that to be mounted combat - mounts in that game operate as little more than speed buff. It's basically the lower half of your body frozen to the mount while the upper half of your body does the exact same animation as if you weren't mounted. It's a visual effect, nothing more, whereas the mounted combat LotRO is doing has more substance.

Yes but in lotro before now combat got you dismounted, in eq2 you never got dismounted you fought while on your mount, unless you were in a raid zone.  Sorry I will stick with eq2, it has everything that lotro been missing since the beginning.  I know folks have been biting at the bit to play rohan, some of them are going finally.  I am just waiting for the email from lotro that my account has been temp banned again because I will not buy this expansion.  I did not buy the last one and got temp banned for inactivity.  This time I will not even fight it, goodbye lifetime subscription.

 

Well problem with EQ2 it is run by SOE.  Has to be the most incompetent developer out there bar none.  I liked EQ2, but after SOE got hacked and they reset the passwords can't play anymore, my account was attached to an old email, not accessable any more, two tries on the phone got me nowhere.   Good luck if you have issues with the game.

I find the Turbine folks far more willing to help with problems.   I like the Lotro lore far more than EQ2 attempt at it.  

  xr00t3dx

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Joined: 12/25/11
Posts: 282

7/20/12 10:24:04 PM#22
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Mounted combat is something rarely tried in a MMO.  I am looking forward to trying this out in Lotro, of course I need to get at least one of my avatar's to 75 first which of course means I have to spend a lot of time in Moria, ugh.

How so? EverQuest 2 had mounted combat since it launched back in 2004.

I always loved to fight with my Paladin from his white armored horse. :)

I guess you're not familiar with the word "rarely".  Jesus man. Read the words, then respond to it.

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5575

7/21/12 2:10:08 AM#23

Another craptastic and surely overpriced Turbine xpac.

I have to call the author out on the claim that the warsteed handles like a large animal should.  It doesn't look like it handle at all like any animal.  I watched the video.  The horse glides to the side in a totally unrealistic fashion and does actually turn on a hairpin, especially compared to actual horseback riding.  When is the last time you've seen a horse skate across dirt?

And Flies?  Really?  67 levels later and the player is still fighting rehashed mob models in the form of flies.  From sickle flies at level 10 in the marshes outside of Bree to level 76 flies in Rohan?  How idiotic is that?  Flies that could kill the entire town of bree and lay waste to most of Eriador?  How much are they going to charge players to fight flies again?

The mounted combat is not much different than that of EQ2.  It's just a cosmetic run speed buff that gives a moving crit chance.  Can you be dismounted while fighting?  Can you suffer falling damage for taking a hit and getting dismounted?  Or is it all mounted all the time?

Why does this game get the love it so doesn't deserve?  It has really great scenery and beautiful clouds and then the most hideous plastic skinned stiff character models and animations of most any modern MMO.

If they would actually put some effort and pride into creating Middle Earth then they would deserve some praise.  As it stands they have dumped on and pissed away one of the most beloved fantasy IPs of all time.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  GeezerGaz82

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Joined: 11/14/11
Posts: 50

7/21/12 4:05:06 AM#24

it's looking good from the videos I've watched.  Looking forward for exploring this expansion, looks like a nice chunk to explore.  Looking forward to exploring Fangorn the most though

Keep up the good work Turbine 

  Gaborik

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Joined: 2/10/08
Posts: 313

7/21/12 8:30:53 AM#25
Originally posted by Torvaldr

Another craptastic and surely overpriced Turbine xpac.

I have to call the author out on the claim that the warsteed handles like a large animal should.  It doesn't look like it handle at all like any animal.  I watched the video.  The horse glides to the side in a totally unrealistic fashion and does actually turn on a hairpin, especially compared to actual horseback riding.  When is the last time you've seen a horse skate across dirt?

And Flies?  Really?  67 levels later and the player is still fighting rehashed mob models in the form of flies.  From sickle flies at level 10 in the marshes outside of Bree to level 76 flies in Rohan?  How idiotic is that?  Flies that could kill the entire town of bree and lay waste to most of Eriador?  How much are they going to charge players to fight flies again?

The mounted combat is not much different than that of EQ2.  It's just a cosmetic run speed buff that gives a moving crit chance.  Can you be dismounted while fighting?  Can you suffer falling damage for taking a hit and getting dismounted?  Or is it all mounted all the time?

Why does this game get the love it so doesn't deserve?  It has really great scenery and beautiful clouds and then the most hideous plastic skinned stiff character models and animations of most any modern MMO.

If they would actually put some effort and pride into creating Middle Earth then they would deserve some praise.  As it stands they have dumped on and pissed away one of the most beloved fantasy IPs of all time.

People who say the character models are still and boring have never leveled up a character to max level, played in a dungeon or raid.  They just come on here to spew their hate for a very good game.  This game has a lot more then scenery and models.  People complain all day about newer games not having this or that, LOTRO has everything these people complain about.  From day cycles, player houseing, reason to explore, raids, dungeons, cosmetic clothes with tons of different dyes, 3 man instances, great crafting I can go on and on. 

 

For the comment about fighting flies?  Really that was one mob there are many different mobs you fight in Rohan I understand the people try to nit pick just trying to find something to complain about but that is a major fail attempt.  This is middle earth not some fantasy world where you can put some crazy different mobs.  You complain they ruined Middle earth but yet you want them to put in mobs that are not part of middle earth?  Your in a swamp, what type of npc should they put in a swamp that will make you happy?  

 

To answer your question about mounted combat...usually people wait or read a little before they whine and cry about something but here are your answers you ask for. 

Can you get dismounted? Yes

Can you dismount while fighting? Yes

Do you take damage while fighting or falling off? Yes

Before you complain about how the horse moves maybe you should try it out.  

These sites will never change, people will come on and post comments about games they have no clue about just because its not what they play.  They will make false claims and makes fools of themself.  People who play these games enjoy them and false claims and foolish comments wont stop them.

  crazynanny

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Joined: 9/03/10
Posts: 175

7/21/12 10:59:37 AM#26
Is it just me or that war steed had wheels under it's hooves? Because it looked very unrealistic in that video.
  crazynanny

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Joined: 9/03/10
Posts: 175

7/21/12 11:23:39 AM#27
Originally posted by Gaborik

People who say the character models are still and boring have never leveled up a character to max level, played in a dungeon or raid.  They just come on here to spew their hate for a very good game.  This game has a lot more then scenery and models.  People complain all day about newer games not having this or that, LOTRO has everything these people complain about.  From day cycles, player houseing, reason to explore, raids, dungeons, cosmetic clothes with tons of different dyes, 3 man instances, great crafting I can go on and on. 

(...)

These sites will never change, people will come on and post comments about games they have no clue about just because its not what they play.  They will make false claims and makes fools of themself.  People who play these games enjoy them and false claims and foolish comments wont stop them.

While some people are hating a game( and other people who like it) because they just didn't enjoy it, you are exactly opposite. LOTRO has some good and bad things as every game and yes you can notice them even after playing it for 4 years. My 4 cents:

  • Player housing is poor and nearly dead(not developed/fixed anymore), nothing like for example one in eq.
  • Crafting is WoW style copy, both in terms of materials gathering and cratfting, hardly a thing you can call great.
  • There is no real reason to explore aside being curious and getting occasional title(but that's quite rare).
  • Cosmetic system is okay, dyeing is far inferior as you can't colour various parts of clothing. Colour pallette is good.
  • Dungeons and raids are solid and fun.
  • Mail system is poor and you can only send one item per mail, pushing you into cash shop where is shared storage.
  • Lootboxes are perfect example of usual F2P gamble box system with uber drops(low chance) and key again buayble in store(and as ~0.01% drop from mobs too).
  • PvP is poor, nearly forgotten and p2w(cash shop stuff that gives andvantage).
  • Story is good and so areas design is simply awesome.
  • AH is refined and good, but lacks more complex tools
  • Bag space is limited(compared to other MMOs where you have bigger bags) and again being sold in cash shop(in one form or another)
  • UI is okay but lacks solid add-ons and LUA support isn't good which makes that few existing add-ons quite buggy after game updates.
Of course I could say much more, but it'd be too detailed stuff to make it informative. Surely I'm subjective as well, but I hope I made my point - LOTRO has it's pros and cons.
  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5575

7/21/12 1:12:56 PM#28
Originally posted by crazynanny
Originally posted by Gaborik

People who say the character models are still and boring have never leveled up a character to max level, played in a dungeon or raid.  They just come on here to spew their hate for a very good game.  This game has a lot more then scenery and models.  People complain all day about newer games not having this or that, LOTRO has everything these people complain about.  From day cycles, player houseing, reason to explore, raids, dungeons, cosmetic clothes with tons of different dyes, 3 man instances, great crafting I can go on and on. 

(...)

These sites will never change, people will come on and post comments about games they have no clue about just because its not what they play.  They will make false claims and makes fools of themself.  People who play these games enjoy them and false claims and foolish comments wont stop them.

While some people are hating a game( and other people who like it) because they just didn't enjoy it, you are exactly opposite. LOTRO has some good and bad things as every game and yes you can notice them even after playing it for 4 years. My 4 cents:

  • Player housing is poor and nearly dead(not developed/fixed anymore), nothing like for example one in eq.
  • Crafting is WoW style copy, both in terms of materials gathering and cratfting, hardly a thing you can call great.
  • There is no real reason to explore aside being curious and getting occasional title(but that's quite rare).
  • Cosmetic system is okay, dyeing is far inferior as you can't colour various parts of clothing. Colour pallette is good.
  • Dungeons and raids are solid and fun.
  • Mail system is poor and you can only send one item per mail, pushing you into cash shop where is shared storage.
  • Lootboxes are perfect example of usual F2P gamble box system with uber drops(low chance) and key again buayble in store(and as ~0.01% drop from mobs too).
  • PvP is poor, nearly forgotten and p2w(cash shop stuff that gives andvantage).
  • Story is good and so areas design is simply awesome.
  • AH is refined and good, but lacks more complex tools
  • Bag space is limited(compared to other MMOs where you have bigger bags) and again being sold in cash shop(in one form or another)
  • UI is okay but lacks solid add-ons and LUA support isn't good which makes that few existing add-ons quite buggy after game updates.
Of course I could say much more, but it'd be too detailed stuff to make it informative. Surely I'm subjective as well, but I hope I made my point - LOTRO has it's pros and cons.

I played the game for several years from before launch.  I know exactly what it's like and how poorly Turbine has managed the game and IP.

I would like to see some more mounted combat before I believe that poster because in the video, after the author and Rowan got hit many times, they were never dismounted.  Also the character models don't get better as you level.  They're just as poorly animated at level cap as they are in Ered Luin.  The plastic look of the character textures don't improve with level.  Gaborik makes no sense.

I also noticed the GP never addressed the rehashed mob mobels.  In over 5 years how many new armour meshes have been added to the game?  Not new textures over old meshes, but brand new meshes.

The best thing about the game is the central story line, even though it gets somewhat weak and meanders in early Rhovannion.

Turbine has added half baked features like hobbies and left them to linger.  Their housing system is crude and poorly implemented for a game of that style.  Compare that to housing in another old game like EQ2, LotRO housing is embarassing.

There is zero reason to explore.  In EQ2 and RIFT there are hidden bosses, small caves to explore with mini-bosses, collections, and puzzles.  Turbine has created a huge world with nothing to do outside of the rides.

After I stopped playing LotRO and started exploring other games I realized just what a low quality half-assed effort they put into the development.  Outside of the beautiful scenery and nice music the game is mediocre at best.  If there was a reason to explore that beautiful scenery and interact with the world it might be different, but it's not.  It's just shallow.  The few things it does are good, but not enough to make it a good game.  So as I said, why does it get kudos and credit that it doesn't deserve.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Gaborik

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7/21/12 1:41:05 PM#29
It get kudos and credit becauae its a very good game. I could sit a tear apart every comment you nade. As another poster stated the game is not perfect but it definitely one of the best out. Just because you have some weird desire to bash it because people in whatever game you played left for it or you left to early and peolle left you behind.

I dont and will never understand why people need to pound their chest and make clueless cimments about a game. There was a poster that had fair criticism i seemed to have knowledge about the game that is fine. But people who are clearly clueless and continue to rant need to focus their time else where. Why do you care so much a lot of people enjoy and feel lotro is a great game?
  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5575

7/21/12 2:13:47 PM#30
Originally posted by Gaborik
It get kudos and credit becauae its a very good game. I could sit a tear apart every comment you nade. As another poster stated the game is not perfect but it definitely one of the best out. Just because you have some weird desire to bash it because people in whatever game you played left for it or you left to early and peolle left you behind.

I dont and will never understand why people need to pound their chest and make clueless cimments about a game. There was a poster that had fair criticism i seemed to have knowledge about the game that is fine. But people who are clearly clueless and continue to rant need to focus their time else where. Why do you care so much a lot of people enjoy and feel lotro is a great game?

I've never understood why people take valid criticism so personally unless you're making the game.  The author made some comments and opinions and I disagree.  It's a discussion forum.  I have played the game for 4.5 years and I do know what I am talking about and I did support my reasons.  I didn't just say the game sucks and leave it at that.

Time for a bad analogy:  If I say a McDonald's Quarter Pounder is the best steak ever providing the best beef eating experience ever and a great deal at $30 a burger, then I'm sure some people will call me out.  It's the same with LotRO.  The author gave their opinion in an open discussion forum and I disagree.

I never called the author or you names, as you did me.  Why are you so defensive and hostile?  Please try and be civil.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
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7/21/12 2:27:32 PM#31
Originally posted by crazynanny
Originally posted by Gaborik

People who say the character models are still and boring have never leveled up a character to max level, played in a dungeon or raid.  They just come on here to spew their hate for a very good game.  This game has a lot more then scenery and models.  People complain all day about newer games not having this or that, LOTRO has everything these people complain about.  From day cycles, player houseing, reason to explore, raids, dungeons, cosmetic clothes with tons of different dyes, 3 man instances, great crafting I can go on and on. 

(...)

These sites will never change, people will come on and post comments about games they have no clue about just because its not what they play.  They will make false claims and makes fools of themself.  People who play these games enjoy them and false claims and foolish comments wont stop them.

While some people are hating a game( and other people who like it) because they just didn't enjoy it, you are exactly opposite. LOTRO has some good and bad things as every game and yes you can notice them even after playing it for 4 years. My 4 cents:

  • Player housing is poor and nearly dead(not developed/fixed anymore), nothing like for example one in eq.
  • Crafting is WoW style copy, both in terms of materials gathering and cratfting, hardly a thing you can call great.
  • There is no real reason to explore aside being curious and getting occasional title(but that's quite rare).
  • Cosmetic system is okay, dyeing is far inferior as you can't colour various parts of clothing. Colour pallette is good.
  • Dungeons and raids are solid and fun.
  • Mail system is poor and you can only send one item per mail, pushing you into cash shop where is shared storage.
  • Lootboxes are perfect example of usual F2P gamble box system with uber drops(low chance) and key again buayble in store(and as ~0.01% drop from mobs too).
  • PvP is poor, nearly forgotten and p2w(cash shop stuff that gives andvantage).
  • Story is good and so areas design is simply awesome.
  • AH is refined and good, but lacks more complex tools
  • Bag space is limited(compared to other MMOs where you have bigger bags) and again being sold in cash shop(in one form or another)
  • UI is okay but lacks solid add-ons and LUA support isn't good which makes that few existing add-ons quite buggy after game updates.
Of course I could say much more, but it'd be too detailed stuff to make it informative. Surely I'm subjective as well, but I hope I made my point - LOTRO has it's pros and cons.

 

Player housing is dead in any game where it is in a separate instance including EQ2.  

Don't know what game you are playing, but crafting in Lotro is far far superior to Wow. Some of the best items in the game come from crafting, that is so not the case in Wow, crafting is almost useless in Wow, have to raid or pvp to get decent stuff.    At least it is far superior to the clutzy crafting methods in EQ2.

Have found lots of lootboxes and keys, never had to buy one from the store ever.

Pvp was never really an issue here, go play another game if you want pvp.

Bag space is big compared to some other games I have played and they are adding more in the expansion.   Really not an issue unless you are a collector of everything.

 

  User Deleted
7/21/12 2:46:35 PM#32

As much as i like the genre and this game, i'm hesitant to actually get this expansion as the last one was so disappointing to me and wasn't worth the money i spent on it. I'll be keeping an eye on it but at this point im not holding my breath.

 

might wanna not use a lagtastic video to demonstrate the gameplay next time 7:45 the character pretty much flies back to the beginning camp sideways.

 
  CujoSWAoA

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7/21/12 2:49:29 PM#33

Easily the worst horses I've seen in any video game in the past 10 years.

  Torvaldr

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7/21/12 2:54:59 PM#34
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Player housing is dead in any game where it is in a separate instance including EQ2.  

Don't know what game you are playing, but crafting in Lotro is far far superior to Wow. Some of the best items in the game come from crafting, that is so not the case in Wow, crafting is almost useless in Wow, have to raid or pvp to get decent stuff.    At least it is far superior to the clutzy crafting methods in EQ2.

Have found lots of lootboxes and keys, never had to buy one from the store ever.

Pvp was never really an issue here, go play another game if you want pvp.

Bag space is big compared to some other games I have played and they are adding more in the expansion.   Really not an issue unless you are a collector of everything.

Player housing is certainly not dead in EQ2 and is not in a separate instance.  They are doors in the main hubs to instanced rooms, just like when you walk into the Pony in Bree.   The only difference is that everyone gets their own copy of the Pony to decorate and you can search on entry for the player's house you want to see.

Crafting in EQ2 is far far superior.  Not only are all items useful in some way, but there are whole sections of crafting professions dedicated to cosmetic housing items.

Crafting in LotRO is one of it's stonger points though.  You can craft useful leveling gear and mediocre end game gear.  Any really good end game gear (mostly LIs) requires you raid/dungeon grind though, just like any other game.  I do think the click and go approach is better than EQ2s mini-game, but overall EQ2 crafting just has a lot more to it.  There are entire crafting quest chains, specialty recipes gained through faction quests and not just faction rep at a token vendor.

Lootboxes don't really matter much to me.  I see them for what they are and, since I play a lot of other F2P games, generally tend to avoid them or sell them for profit.  It's not a strong point of any game really, but it's not a battle I choose to fight.  It is also not on my list of why I think Turbine has done a half-assed job with LotRO.

Your pvp dismissal is out of line though.  I could just as easily say if they're going to do a feature they should at least do it right or just remove it.  Quit stringing players along.  They've promised improvements and maps and really haven't delivered on those.  Their pvp concept is reeally interesting and nearly unique.  They don't have to do a "lot" with it, just do it right.  Improve its weak points and add some new maps.

They've improved bag space somewhat when they consolidated itemsand removed quest items from inventory.  On the other hand they've added more items over time.  They also don't let you mail account bound items to alts, but require shared storage purchases.  They also don't provide full shared storage and wardrobe while subscribed.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Gaborik

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7/21/12 3:48:07 PM#35
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Gaborik
It get kudos and credit becauae its a very good game. I could sit a tear apart every comment you nade. As another poster stated the game is not perfect but it definitely one of the best out. Just because you have some weird desire to bash it because people in whatever game you played left for it or you left to early and peolle left you behind.

I dont and will never understand why people need to pound their chest and make clueless cimments about a game. There was a poster that had fair criticism i seemed to have knowledge about the game that is fine. But people who are clearly clueless and continue to rant need to focus their time else where. Why do you care so much a lot of people enjoy and feel lotro is a great game?

I've never understood why people take valid criticism so personally unless you're making the game.  The author made some comments and opinions and I disagree.  It's a discussion forum.  I have played the game for 4.5 years and I do know what I am talking about and I did support my reasons.  I didn't just say the game sucks and leave it at that.

Time for a bad analogy:  If I say a McDonald's Quarter Pounder is the best steak ever providing the best beef eating experience ever and a great deal at $30 a burger, then I'm sure some people will call me out.  It's the same with LotRO.  The author gave their opinion in an open discussion forum and I disagree.

I never called the author or you names, as you did me.  Why are you so defensive and hostile?  Please try and be civil.

My comment was a comment in general about people who come on these sites and bash/and  "T"( the word you cant say) just becuase its not what they play.  I in no way did I call anyone names, just expressed my opinion of some peoples knowledge of the game based on their comments.  

 I can take valid criticism as some people who posted made.  Sorry I just feel the need to correct the ones who go a little over board, the people who have not played the game need to know the game is solid, alive and one of the better MMOs out right now.  That is why some people come on and call out the extreme bashers/haters.  

  jedensuscg

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7/22/12 1:28:08 AM#36
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Mounted combat is something rarely tried in a MMO.  I am looking forward to trying this out in Lotro, of course I need to get at least one of my avatar's to 75 first which of course means I have to spend a lot of time in Moria, ugh.

Exactly, Moria is what made me stop playing.  I an go back and play for free anytime with my 58 Burg as I already own the Lothrien expansion as well...but I just cant get past Moria....They need to add in the an alternate 50-60 area, where you go into the past and instead of moria you level up through the events of The Hobbit!!

I would much rather replay all the previous zones (with different quest and story that follows The Hobbit book) rather then play Moria ever again.

 

  crazynanny

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7/22/12 6:24:09 AM#37
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Player housing is dead in any game where it is in a separate instance including EQ2.  

Don't know what game you are playing, but crafting in Lotro is far far superior to Wow. Some of the best items in the game come from crafting, that is so not the case in Wow, crafting is almost useless in Wow, have to raid or pvp to get decent stuff.    At least it is far superior to the clutzy crafting methods in EQ2.

Have found lots of lootboxes and keys, never had to buy one from the store ever.

Pvp was never really an issue here, go play another game if you want pvp.

Bag space is big compared to some other games I have played and they are adding more in the expansion.   Really not an issue unless you are a collector of everything.

 

  • No idea what you mean by dead, I meant it's not developed anymore(dead feature). And lotro uses hook system which is poor and makes houses(which are too small) rather bland. People only use them for extra storage.
  • Crafting superior? Not a single person who raids/do dungeons use crafted items. For starters everyone use Draigoh 4-set part and then add some raid pieces. Jewellery is from Limlight Gorge reputation and RoF tokens. Crafted items are for casuals or as starting equips before doing 3-mans. Which is exactly like in WoW. System also works like in WoW - gather 300 ore -> make 150 bars -> make 75 useless swords -> NPC them. Crit system was something different, but when crafting guilds appeared you have 100% chance now which makes non crit version trash.
  • So, you found lots of lootboxes and keys and that means what? That they can be found? I said so. But I also said how hard is to find key(several boxes per key on avg), unless you grind a lot of mobs/are extremely lucky. Everyone who play lotro knows that, everyone who plays game with cash shop and boxes knows that. You seem to be in denial here.
  • I wouldn't go so far as go play another game when it comes for pvp, but that say quite much about this feature state.
  • As for bags dunno what games you compare it to. Both WoW and Rift have far superior bag sizes(crafted). Lotro bag is 15 slots. WoW one is 24 if not bigger now(not mentioning crafting bags which are even bigger). Making alt character with it's own guild in WoW gives you 100s of guild bank slots for stuff. Lotro doesn't even have guild bank. Yeah there is extra bag in expansion but you have to pay 30$ extra for it. Later it'll be put in cash shop, so as I said they push bags space into cash shop. It's a big issue as you have to keep crafting materials, various tokens/cash shop items, regular set of equipment, not to mention usual stuff like potions/slaves(edit: hehe hobbits ;) - salves of course  )/food/scrolls and tokens. Not even mentioning fluff stuff like fireworks, festival items or drinks/pipeweed...
  TangentPoint

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7/22/12 9:23:46 AM#38
Originally posted by dreamscaper
Originally posted by JeroKane

 

How so? EverQuest 2 had mounted combat since it launched back in 2004.

I always loved to fight with my Paladin from his white armored horse. :)


The poster said, rarely tried, not that it had never been tried before. Also, as someone who has played EQ2 extensively, I can honestly say that I do NOT consider that to be mounted combat - mounts in that game operate as little more than speed buff. It's basically the lower half of your body frozen to the mount while the upper half of your body does the exact same animation as if you weren't mounted. It's a visual effect, nothing more, whereas the mounted combat LotRO is doing has more substance.

Aren't you kinda splitting hairs and moving the goalpost here a bit?

JeroKane pointed out, accurately, that EQ2 has mounted combat. You're riding a mount, you're still able to fight, etc.  Ergo mounted combat.

Saying "well, yes, but you were really just frozen to your mount while the upper portion of you did the same thing you'd do on foot"....

Okay? And? Are people doing mounted combat supposed to be standing on the mount's back, doing hand-stands and backflips while fighting stuff? Juggling? Are we talking medieval fantasy combat here, or Cirque de Soleil?

Of course you're going to be sitting "frozen" to the mount. You're essentially riding hands free and so your lower body is keeping you from falling off.

You might not like EQ2's implementation of it, but it's still mounted combat.

 

My philosophy on MMORPGs:

Leveling is what happens while you're playing the rest of the game.

Don't worry about levels. Just play.

  f0dell54

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Sanity....
It's for the weak.

7/22/12 10:39:57 AM#39
Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by dreamscaper
Originally posted by JeroKane

 

How so? EverQuest 2 had mounted combat since it launched back in 2004.

I always loved to fight with my Paladin from his white armored horse. :)


The poster said, rarely tried, not that it had never been tried before. Also, as someone who has played EQ2 extensively, I can honestly say that I do NOT consider that to be mounted combat - mounts in that game operate as little more than speed buff. It's basically the lower half of your body frozen to the mount while the upper half of your body does the exact same animation as if you weren't mounted. It's a visual effect, nothing more, whereas the mounted combat LotRO is doing has more substance.

Aren't you kinda splitting hairs and moving the goalpost here a bit?

JeroKane pointed out, accurately, that EQ2 has mounted combat. You're riding a mount, you're still able to fight, etc.  Ergo mounted combat.

Saying "well, yes, but you were really just frozen to your mount while the upper portion of you did the same thing you'd do on foot"....

Okay? And? Are people doing mounted combat supposed to be standing on the mount's back, doing hand-stands and backflips while fighting stuff? Juggling? Are we talking medieval fantasy combat here, or Cirque de Soleil?

Of course you're going to be sitting "frozen" to the mount. You're essentially riding hands free and so your lower body is keeping you from falling off.

You might not like EQ2's implementation of it, but it's still mounted combat.

 

http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profilesofasianleaders/p/AttilaProf.htm

They fought on horse back without standing on the mount's back or juggling. They were also fought while being mobile which allowed the hun's to conquer  most the ancient world. Damn, history is a bitch.

  UW1975

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7/22/12 10:03:32 PM#40
Originally posted by crazynanny
  • Crafting superior? Not a single person who raids/do dungeons use crafted items. For starters everyone use Draigoh 4-set part and then add some raid pieces. Jewellery is from Limlight Gorge reputation and RoF tokens. 

Crafting is far from useless in the game. For once, you can't craft Second Ager or First Ager without being Westfold Master. (and then you get the Crafted Relics on them).

Then a lot of other items such as Fire Oils, Scrolls, etc. are available only via crafting and they are mandatory if you want to raid at higher levels. In fact, all serious Rading kins in fact have Westfold Master crafters in many specialties.

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