Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by nilden

/meh

OMG I love this image!

This pic was like the ultimate derail for me lol, everything i was seriously contemplating went straight on out the window. I proceeded to google image it to see if it was part of an anime, lmfao. +10 Internets to your skillz good sir.

Some off topics need to be rewarded lol.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by iceman00

You said that Bethesda had Skyrim's sales as 90% on consoles.  Except the quote came out before Skyrim launched, and really had no hard figures.  So yeah, other than lacking evidence and a wrong timeframe, your quote was accurate? 

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Yes, it is my bad, apparently it was not for Skyrim specifically but whole franchise.

Does not change my point tho and makes you rumbling pointlessly only.

You have some issues with concept of "potential customer base", not the same as "actual customer base".

Can't even say nice try since you were not able to make any point apart from pointing out my inaccuracy.

Your inaccuracy basically made your entire point false though.  Why waste my time firing off 4 bullets when firing one does the trick?

I have no problem with potential versus actual.  1.3 million is a potential base, and a pretty strong one at that.  Then you add in the fact (as I already did) that Elder scrolls players are pretty devout.  then further add in the fact (as I already did), that on the PC, those players are even more devout, given how people respond to the modding community.

So give them a game set in the Elder Scrolls Lore with a lot of Elder Scrolls features, and I think its perfectly reasonable to have an initial base of half of the number of Skyrim players who are going to check this thing out.  750k is a pretty solid number to start with right out the gate.  That diehard base is bigger than TOR's, without the massive budget.

/winwin

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Originally posted by iceman00

Your inaccuracy basically made your entire point false though.

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Too bad you cannot support your claim...

You hear from Bethesda that 90% of their customers(including Skyrim) are console players.

So when we take your funny math for 750k PC "die hards", you get 9 times more, 6.75M console "die hards", which makes your point not only moot but also ridiculous...

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by iceman00

Your inaccuracy basically made your entire point false though.

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Too bad you cannot support your claim...

You hear from Bethesda that 90% of their customers(including Skyrim) are console players.

So when we take your funny math for 750k PC "die hards", you get 9 times more, 6.75M console "die hards", which makes your point not only moot but also ridiculous...

the real bottom line is that 100% of TES fans are fans of TES. It doesnt matter what machine its played on. That is the whole failure of understanding here. Its not like 'oh well its a PC game thus the game should be completely different from any TES experience ever created'

Originally posted by Tatercake
jesus you all will never ever ever be happy  with anything  ever.  i been saying since daggerfall if only these games could be online  now if they go and mess with the combat system they shurly will fail  but if they dont they will  be great your ignorence and opionons are limited to what you desire and you alone

I have good news and I have bad news.

The good news is they didn't mess with the combat system.

The bad news is they abandoned it completely in favor of typical MMORPG hotbar cooldowns.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by iceman00

Your inaccuracy basically made your entire point false though.

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Too bad you cannot support your claim...

You hear from Bethesda that 90% of their customers(including Skyrim) are console players.

So when we take your funny math for 750k PC "die hards", you get 9 times more, 6.75M console "die hards", which makes your point not only moot but also ridiculous...

And this is the logic that went behind TOR... a game which you also thought was great and did gangbusters.  People who really don't know jack about the MMO world or their fanbase, and they suffer for it.

Considering that again you basically had to concede you were pulling numbers out of thin air (you've got no numbers that 90% of skyrim players are consoles, and even if you did, it is irrelevant to the MMO world), keep trying to spin it all you want.

I'm confident that they will listen to you, like they listened to your kind for TOR.  How did that work out?

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Originally posted by iceman00

Considering that again you basically had to concede you were pulling numbers out of thin air (you've got no numbers that 90% of skyrim players are consoles, and even if you did, it is irrelevant to the MMO world), keep trying to spin it all you want.

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Bethesda reporting 90% total sales consisting of consoles sales is something pulled out of thin air...?

Just because you wear a pair of blind folders and ignore something does not make it irrelevant.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by iceman00

Considering that again you basically had to concede you were pulling numbers out of thin air (you've got no numbers that 90% of skyrim players are consoles, and even if you did, it is irrelevant to the MMO world), keep trying to spin it all you want.

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Bethesda reporting 90% total sales consisting of consoles sales is something pulled out of thin air...?

Just because you wear a pair of blind folders and ignore something does not make it irrelevant.

Well.. There were over 5 million players of Skyrim on Steam at it's peak. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-04-steam-shoots-over-5-million-concurrent-users-mark So.. 90% is a stretch. But I think a great deal of players enjoyed the game on consoles.

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Originally posted by 3-4thElf

Well.. There were over 5 million players of Skyrim on Steam at it's peak. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-04-steam-shoots-over-5-million-concurrent-users-mark So.. 90% is a stretch. But I think a great deal of players enjoyed the game on consoles.

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5M user peak on Steam, not Skyrim players.

Actual player peak is here:

86,074 Team Fortress 2
71,310 Dota 2
52,596 Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
34,433 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

It is no stretch. Console market is much bigger than PC market thus it only make sense you get stronger sales on console platform.