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  kishe

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7/11/12 10:20:47 AM#21

So big ole grandaddy of RPGs have been reduced to this...sad.

 

I remember when people used to hold their breeath over his next game because of how good they were, not because of how bad they stink.

  Fadedbomb

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7/11/12 10:33:58 AM#22

Just to be clear, I don't personally believe "Social Gaming" on mobile devices, or the PC for that matter, will ever become anything great. It's cheap and meant for a quick thrill while you're at work or can't get to your PC at home.

Sorry Garriot, but when I was in the Alpha & Beta for Tabula Rasa you were more interested in the story of the game than making a proper FUN game. I felt more secluded in Tabula Rasa from the world than i ever have in any product since.

 

Forshame sir, and I used to idol you :(.

 

 

Social Gaming? What happened?!

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  Fadedbomb

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7/11/12 10:36:04 AM#23
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Everyone knows that when you get older you get less "edgey" in everything you do.

Look at Eddie Murphy.

To be fair Eddie Murphy has always been like that. The only thing that changed were the times. He came in at a good time, but the world has snice left him behind.

 

I don't think that's the same deal with Mr.Garriott though.

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  Amaranthar

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7/11/12 10:51:23 AM#24

FTP on Mobile? I'm still laughing at the idea that he isn't forgetting the ol' hardcore players. Maybe he should, we're dust in the wind now.

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  Rednecksith

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7/11/12 11:00:46 AM#25
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Just to be clear, I don't personally believe "Social Gaming" on mobile devices, or the PC for that matter, will ever become anything great. It's cheap and meant for a quick thrill while you're at work or can't get to your PC at home.

Sorry Garriot, but when I was in the Alpha & Beta for Tabula Rasa you were more interested in the story of the game than making a proper FUN game. I felt more secluded in Tabula Rasa from the world than i ever have in any product since.

 

Forshame sir, and I used to idol you :(.

 

 

Social Gaming? What happened?!

Which is funny, because Tabula Rasa still stands out to me as the most fun I've ever had in an MMORPG.

I for one will wait and see what the new game is like before passing judgement like an ass (not directed at anyone in particular).

  Fadedbomb

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7/11/12 11:05:54 AM#26
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Just to be clear, I don't personally believe "Social Gaming" on mobile devices, or the PC for that matter, will ever become anything great. It's cheap and meant for a quick thrill while you're at work or can't get to your PC at home.

Sorry Garriot, but when I was in the Alpha & Beta for Tabula Rasa you were more interested in the story of the game than making a proper FUN game. I felt more secluded in Tabula Rasa from the world than i ever have in any product since.

 

Forshame sir, and I used to idol you :(.

 

 

Social Gaming? What happened?!

Which is funny, because Tabula Rasa still stands out to me as the most fun I've ever had in an MMORPG.

I for one will wait and see what the new game is like before passing judgement like an ass (not directed at anyone in particular).

I don't pass judgdement on a product before I have some experience with it. However, Social Gaming as a whole is a joke so the overall feel so far is a bad one.

Not sure if I got that point across or not without explicitly stating it?

 

That aside, so far Mr.Garriott doesn't look to be pushing out anything to be excited about anytime soon.

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  Ruandel

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7/11/12 11:08:34 AM#27

You got to be kidding! A FB game really?

  Tajin

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7/11/12 11:20:08 AM#28

Ultimate Sims ?

  adam_nox

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7/11/12 11:21:58 AM#29

Garriott's a hack, sad to say.  I give fans the benefit of the doubt since I wasn't into PC gaming at the time of Ultima's, and have only limited experience with the NES version which was horrible trash.

Tabula Rasa was one of the first mmos that only took me 5 minutes to tell it would get shut down or go f2p. 

He's just trying to make a buck, and I think in retrospect, that's what it was always about.

  maplestone

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7/11/12 11:27:05 AM#30

The article doesn't make it clear what the business model is.

  Brenelael

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7/11/12 11:27:58 AM#31

Well even though social gaming is not really my thing Ultimate Collector is a pretty good offering. It's got far more depth than the usual run of the mill FB game. As for Ultimate RPG I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He does make a lot of sense in what he has been continuing to say about the Mobile and Casual markets in the last few years so it will be interesting to see what he comes up with. I'll reserve judgement until we know more about his vision of the future as right now we really don't know squat about his new RPG game.

 

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  Creslin321

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7/11/12 11:35:29 AM#32

Whether you like or hate what Richar Garriott is doing now...I really think you have to respect the man.

I'm a little appalled at how many people think he is a "hack" or whatever in this thread.  What you guys have to realize is that if UO never came out, Richard Garriott would still be an incredibly influential industry icon.

Ultima was an SPRPG series LONG before it was an MMORPG.  In fact, Ultima I came out in 1980..1980!  And there were probably over 14 Ultima games in total.  The fact of the matter is that Garriott's Ultima series was a tremendous influence on ALL computer RPGs, and probably played a large part in shaping their direction. 

Trying to dismiss all of Garriott's accomplishments simply because you don't like what he is doing now is ridiculous.  Show some respect people ;).

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  Zekiah

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7/11/12 11:43:17 AM#33

/sigh

I was excited to see Ultimate Britannia. Was.

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  NightBandit

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7/11/12 11:48:24 AM#34
Originally posted by adam_nox

Garriott's a hack, sad to say.  I give fans the benefit of the doubt since I wasn't into PC gaming at the time of Ultima's, and have only limited experience with the NES version which was horrible trash.

Tabula Rasa was one of the first mmos that only took me 5 minutes to tell it would get shut down or go f2p. 

He's just trying to make a buck, and I think in retrospect, that's what it was always about.

 couldn't agree more he is looking for others to pay for his fix for another flight into space....

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  NightBandit

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7/11/12 11:52:51 AM#35
Originally posted by Creslin321

Whether you like or hate what Richar Garriott is doing now...I really think you have to respect the man.

I'm a little appalled at how many people think he is a "hack" or whatever in this thread.  What you guys have to realize is that if UO never came out, Richard Garriott would still be an incredibly influential industry icon.

Ultima was an SPRPG series LONG before it was an MMORPG.  In fact, Ultima I came out in 1980..1980!  And there were probably over 14 Ultima games in total.  The fact of the matter is that Garriott's Ultima series was a tremendous influence on ALL computer RPGs, and probably played a large part in shaping their direction. 

Trying to dismiss all of Garriott's accomplishments simply because you don't like what he is doing now is ridiculous.  Show some respect people ;).

 I totally agree with what your saying but that does not detract that this looks very poor and it's IMO a way for him to fund his next journey into space like I posted above. This all about making money and not a quality product and after watching all three of these http://stratics.com/an-interview-with-richard-garriott-part-one/  it was obvious what he's up too.

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  Creslin321

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7/11/12 12:27:18 PM#36
Originally posted by NightBandit
Originally posted by Creslin321

Whether you like or hate what Richar Garriott is doing now...I really think you have to respect the man.

I'm a little appalled at how many people think he is a "hack" or whatever in this thread.  What you guys have to realize is that if UO never came out, Richard Garriott would still be an incredibly influential industry icon.

Ultima was an SPRPG series LONG before it was an MMORPG.  In fact, Ultima I came out in 1980..1980!  And there were probably over 14 Ultima games in total.  The fact of the matter is that Garriott's Ultima series was a tremendous influence on ALL computer RPGs, and probably played a large part in shaping their direction. 

Trying to dismiss all of Garriott's accomplishments simply because you don't like what he is doing now is ridiculous.  Show some respect people ;).

 I totally agree with what your saying but that does not detract that this looks very poor and it's IMO a way for him to fund his next journey into space like I posted above. This all about making money and not a quality product and after watching all three of these http://stratics.com/an-interview-with-richard-garriott-part-one/  it was obvious what he's up too.

Bandit

 I'm not overly happy with what he's doing now either ;).

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  lordtwisted

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7/11/12 12:43:06 PM#37

 Something I would attempt to like just because it is by Richard Garriott. I was always excited by Ultima games, and Ultima Online was kick butt for the first few weeks before hackers/botters/etc.. made it a cheat or die game. 

 

 Tabula Risa or whatever it was called, I prefer fantasy so never gave that game a chance to impress me, so could have been good, I just did not like it.

So aside from the Ultima series I have not been excited about anything Garriott has done in a long time....and I am still waiting I guess... 

Not so nice guy!

  Greyface

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7/11/12 12:53:32 PM#38
Every time I read an interview with RG, he sounds like he really believes that Farmville is the futute of gaming. Maybe it is, from a revenue perspective. But nothing he says convinces me that core gamers have any part in that future.

  Creslin321

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7/11/12 1:18:39 PM#39
Originally posted by Greyface
Every time I read an interview with RG, he sounds like he really believes that Farmville is the futute of gaming. Maybe it is, from a revenue perspective. But nothing he says convinces me that core gamers have any part in that future.
 

 The funny thing is that I think Farmville has probably had its day in the sun and it's on the decline now.  I mean, look at Zynga's stock performance :).

If I had to guess, I would say that games like Day-Z and Minecraft may be the "next frontier."  I mean, ARMA 2 has been #1 on the steam chart for like a month in a half because of Day-Z.

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  Amaranthar

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7/11/12 1:37:54 PM#40
Originally posted by maplestone

The article doesn't make it clear what the business model is.

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