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  Caldrin

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7/09/12 10:27:58 AM#41

I guess im just lucky and not had any issues with chat so far..

TSW is probally the least buggy game i have played at launch.. yes bugs suck but they will get them sorted.

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  kilun

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7/09/12 10:30:25 AM#42

The chat can be game breaking.  Friday night all I wanted to do was get in and do Polaris finally.  I was unable to even do that.  I simply logged out and did other things.

This is an issue that needs addressed ASAP.  It is horrible and not helping one bit.  Did Polaris saturday morning and literally right after I entered I couldn't respond to anything in general or group.  Didn't even know tell was working for a bit until the MT messaged me back after about 5 minutes.  I was healer so although I didn't need to do much, I would of been beneficial to be able to chat.

They at least have a pop-up saying we know chat is an issue and a fix is in the works on the screen occasionally, but they need to squash it fast, and the pop-up should of been shown all weekend and not since last night.

  MrPat

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7/09/12 10:35:46 AM#43

I did Polaris and Inferno twice this week-end ... without chat working 100%.

But then again, not everyone needs to be taken by the hand to evolve.

  DJJazzy

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7/09/12 10:38:22 AM#44
Originally posted by MrPat

I did Polaris and Inferno twice this week-end ... without chat working 100%.

But then again, not everyone needs to be taken by the hand to evolve.

Unless you are a guid group with vent, how would you even form a group without chat? Is there an in game sign language?

I mean if you have some portions of chat working, then fine. But a lot of us don't have any part of it working.

  miguksaram

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7/09/12 10:48:06 AM#45

I'm sorry but this IS an MMORPG amirite?  Which means that at the very basic level CHAT should be enabled?  I get that "bugs" and other "twitches" might exist even after initial launch but the fact remains something as essential as the ability to communicate with those NOT in your Cabal (and in certain even those in your Cabal) should be the expectation and is not a "high standard"?

To those saying, "calm down, you are totally overreacting to something that is nothing in the grand scheme of things".  Well I would LOVE to believe that is the case but recent history (last what, 6 years now) has proven that is NOT the case.  FC has a really bad history of failed launches (I have been there for all of them, 35 years young come this Oct) but I honestly can't remember the last time an MMO launched without the basic ability to to communicate with other group members in the first month of release that lived to say it was a successful MMO (yes I realize it hasn't been a month yet, but then again that is part of my point.  Most consider their initial experience the first "month" of access).  If I'm wrong in that statement please feel free to speak up!

  Caldrin

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7/09/12 10:55:50 AM#46

Thisi s not a failed launch.. but one of the best in the industry.. sure this chat bug does seem to e annoying but its only a recent thing..

 

Someone mentioned it exisited in beta.. but i have not seen any chat issues since launch myself and have always been able to communicate without any issues.. now maybe i have just got lucky but even if it did effect me its not the end of the world.. i have seen mmo launch with a lot worse than a little chat bug.. its just for some reason people love to hate Funcom and if this was GW2 having the issues i bet we would not be seeing as many people kicking up such a fuss about it..

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  miguksaram

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7/09/12 11:02:08 AM#47
Originally posted by Caldrin

Thisi s not a failed launch.. but one of the best in the industry.. sure this chat bug does seem to e annoying but its only a recent thing..

 

Someone mentioned it exisited in beta.. btu i have not seen any chat issues since launch myself and have always been able to communicate without any issues.. now maybe i have just got luck but even if it did effect me its not the end of the world.. i have seen mmo launch with a lot worse than a little chat bug.. its just for some reason people love to hate Funcom and if this was GW2 having the issues i bet we would not be seeing as many people kicking up such a fuss about it..

This is not so much intended at you but rather at the few who have NOT been effected by the current state of Chat affairs (aside from the downtime which has been the main cause of the aforementioned).  Saying, "I've enjoyed my time so I don't get why you are all complaining" (paraphrasing btw) means absolutely NOTHING unless you are on the receiving end of things, no matter what the topic.  I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter but rather in the eyes of those who have been affected it's little more than a "pat on your own back".  Enjoy your chat free issue game play though, I wish my experience could have been the same!

EDIT: BTW like many others I plan on playing TSW as my P2P while maintaining my GW2 account as my B2P.  I see no reason to alienate one just to enjoy the other when the only thing keeping them apart is time management.

  Caldrin

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7/09/12 11:10:38 AM#48
Originally posted by miguksaram
 

This is not so much intended at you but rather at the few who have NOT been effected by the current state of Chat affairs (aside from the downtime which has been the main cause of the aforementioned).  Saying, "I've enjoyed my time so I don't get why you are all complaining" (paraphrasing btw) means absolutely NOTHING unless you are on the receiving end of things, no matter what the topic.  I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter but rather in the eyes of those who have been affected it's little more than a "pat on your own back".  Enjoy your chat free issue game play though, I wish my experience could have been the same!

Bugs can be very hard to track down, bugs thats dont affect everyone are even harder to find.. as far as i know the chat bugs only really started to happen friday.. or at least thats when i first read a bit about it. Now dont get me wrong im sure they have staff working on the weekend and im sure they called back in some of their coders to get to the bottom of it over the weekend.. but remember they have lives to live and cant work 100% of the time.. I am pretty sure we will see a fix for this very soon.. they where very good during beta at fixing bugs fast..
 but other than this chat issue and a few missions that bugged out i have not seen or read about any major game braking bugs unlike a lot of MMORPGs in their first week.. Sure that chat thing is a major issue and im not trying to put it down as being a minor thing but your still able to play the game without it but just not as well..

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  lizardbones

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7/09/12 11:15:06 AM#49


Originally posted by miguksaram
I'm sorry but this IS an MMORPG amirite?  Which means that at the very basic level CHAT should be enabled?  I get that "bugs" and other "twitches" might exist even after initial launch but the fact remains something as essential as the ability to communicate with those NOT in your Cabal (and in certain even those in your Cabal) should be the expectation and is not a "high standard"?

To those saying, "calm down, you are totally overreacting to something that is nothing in the grand scheme of things".  Well I would LOVE to believe that is the case but recent history (last what, 6 years now) has proven that is NOT the case.  FC has a really bad history of failed launches (I have been there for all of them, 35 years young come this Oct) but I honestly can't remember the last time an MMO launched without the basic ability to to communicate with other group members in the first month of release that lived to say it was a successful MMO (yes I realize it hasn't been a month yet, but then again that is part of my point.  Most consider their initial experience the first "month" of access).  If I'm wrong in that statement please feel free to speak up!




It really depends on who you're talking to. More than half the people I game with turn global chat off. The only people they'd talk to would be people in their Cabal.

I, on the other hand, enjoy global chat and would see it not working as an issue. Not a big issue, but still an issue. It would really depend on the rest of the game. How much do I need to be able to chat in order to play the game. I got through the beta without using chat, so I'm thinking the answer is, "Not Much".

Overall though, it doesn't look good if basic functionality doesn't work. Chat systems are basic, core functionality. Even if experienced players aren't going to use chat, new MMORPG players are going to use it a lot. It's not going to tank the game yet, but it could certainly hurt retention and needs to be fixed quickly.

But yes, you are over reacting. You don't get most of the other stuff in the game to work without having some knowledge of what you're doing. They'll get it fixed.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  Vutar

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OP  7/09/12 11:17:19 AM#50
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by miguksaram
 

This is not so much intended at you but rather at the few who have NOT been effected by the current state of Chat affairs (aside from the downtime which has been the main cause of the aforementioned).  Saying, "I've enjoyed my time so I don't get why you are all complaining" (paraphrasing btw) means absolutely NOTHING unless you are on the receiving end of things, no matter what the topic.  I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter but rather in the eyes of those who have been affected it's little more than a "pat on your own back".  Enjoy your chat free issue game play though, I wish my experience could have been the same!

Bugs can be very hard to track down, bugs thats dont affect everyone are even harder to find.. as far as i know the chat bugs only really started to happen friday.. or at least thats when i first read a bit about it. Now dont get me wrong im sure they have staff working on the weekend and im sure they called back in some of their coders to get to the bottom of it over the weekend.. but remember they have lives to live and cant work 100% of the time.. I am pretty sure we will see a fix for this very soon.. they where very good during beta at fixing bugs fast..
 but other than this chat issue and a few missions that bugged out i have not seen or read about any major game braking bugs unlike a lot of MMORPGs in their first week.. Sure that chat thing is a major issue and im not trying to put it down as being a minor thing but your still able to play the game without it but just not as well..

 

No, as pointed out by others in this thread some of had this exact issue since beta. It was never fixed then and it is now taking place on a larger scale.

  Vutar

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OP  7/09/12 11:19:58 AM#51

The patcher says:  "While the chat issues is partially resolved we are still working on a permanent fix for the disconnects some players are experiencing" 

 

As I stare at my empty chat boxes unable to communicate with anyone...

  miguksaram

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Joined: 4/29/03
Posts: 827

7/09/12 11:22:45 AM#52
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by miguksaram
 

This is not so much intended at you but rather at the few who have NOT been effected by the current state of Chat affairs (aside from the downtime which has been the main cause of the aforementioned).  Saying, "I've enjoyed my time so I don't get why you are all complaining" (paraphrasing btw) means absolutely NOTHING unless you are on the receiving end of things, no matter what the topic.  I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter but rather in the eyes of those who have been affected it's little more than a "pat on your own back".  Enjoy your chat free issue game play though, I wish my experience could have been the same!

Bugs can be very hard to track down, bugs thats dont affect everyone are even harder to find.. as far as i know the chat bugs only really started to happen friday.. or at least thats when i first read a bit about it. Now dont get me wrong im sure they have staff working on the weekend and im sure they called back in some of their coders to get to the bottom of it over the weekend.. but remember they have lives to live and cant work 100% of the time.. I am pretty sure we will see a fix for this very soon.. they where very good during beta at fixing bugs fast..
 but other than this chat issue and a few missions that bugged out i have not seen or read about any major game braking bugs unlike a lot of MMORPGs in their first week.. Sure that chat thing is a major issue and im not trying to put it down as being a minor thing but your still able to play the game without it but just not as well..

This is becoming harder to do without saying "I'm honestly not trying to point you out", (although in this case I guess I have to) but the fact remains this is NOT a NEW issue and has been pointed out in previous beta events (you even admitted that much).  I totally understand that being called in on a weekend sucks ass, trust me on this I have had my fair share of "off-time, what's that?" (I work for the US military) due to emergencies, but when you deliver a product that is suppose to be complete (at least the basics anyway) and then ultimately isn't (especially when you have feedback to the contrary) you really have NOTHING to complain about (not that they are, this is directed at those defending said position).

As I said (or I guess implied), I have been a consumer of this industry since long before M59 or UO and never have a seen a MMO launch without the basic ability to communicate with the rest of community in-game and still survive the first month without severe fanbase loss as a result.

EDIT: With regards to Lizardbones comment, the main problem is that MANY of those affected by the chat issue can't even properly speak within their Cabal (or General or any other form of chat for that matter).

  Wickedjelly

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7/09/12 12:00:07 PM#53
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Gargola

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7/09/12 12:08:20 PM#54

This is the only real bad issue so far.  needs to be fixed for good.  Hopefully tomorrow's patch addresses it with version 1.0.1.

 

In the mean time /reloadui has worked to recover chat for a lot of people.

  Vutar

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OP  7/09/12 12:12:48 PM#55
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

 

Which games? There is not one successful MMO that I can think of which had this level of chat problems.

  Wickedjelly

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7/09/12 12:24:06 PM#56
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

 

Which games? There is not one successful MMO that I can think of which had this level of chat problems.

 It happened in Rift

It happened in LotrO

It happened in WoW

This issue has cropped up in several mmos at one point or another.

It also happened in AoC but well...what didn't happen in AoC? Like I said it sucks...needs fixed....but not end of the world. If we're still having this discussion next week...then yeah it's time to start questioning what the hell is going on.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Vutar

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Posts: 752

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. -George Santayana

 
OP  7/09/12 12:28:28 PM#57
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

 

Which games? There is not one successful MMO that I can think of which had this level of chat problems.

 It happened in Rift

It happened in LotrO

It happened in WoW

This issue has cropped up in several mmos at one point or another.

It also happened in AoC but well...what didn't happen in AoC? Like I said it sucks...needs fixed....but not end of the world. If we're still having this discussion next week...then yeah it's time to start questioning what the hell is going on.

 

This did not happen in Rift or WoW, no idea what you are talking about there as I played at release of both. Lotro I have no idea.

  miguksaram

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Joined: 4/29/03
Posts: 827

7/09/12 12:28:53 PM#58
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

 

Which games? There is not one successful MMO that I can think of which had this level of chat problems.

 It happened in Rift

It happened in LotrO

It happened in WoW

This issue has cropped up in several mmos at one point or another.

It also happened in AoC but well...what didn't happen in AoC? Like I said it sucks...needs fixed....but not end of the world. If we're still having this discussion next week...then yeah it's time to start questioning what the hell is going on.

Hmm that is interesting, not calling you a liar or anything but I recall being there for are ALL those launches and not a single one had CHAT specific related issues to the extent TSW is currently (and has been SINCE pre-lauch in some cases) having.  I guess my memory must be foggy, although I doubt it.

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

7/09/12 12:31:04 PM#59
Originally posted by miguksaram
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

 

Which games? There is not one successful MMO that I can think of which had this level of chat problems.

 It happened in Rift

It happened in LotrO

It happened in WoW

This issue has cropped up in several mmos at one point or another.

It also happened in AoC but well...what didn't happen in AoC? Like I said it sucks...needs fixed....but not end of the world. If we're still having this discussion next week...then yeah it's time to start questioning what the hell is going on.

Hmm that is interesting, not calling you a liar or anything but I recall being there for are ALL those launches and not a single one had CHAT specific related issues to the extent TSW is currently (and has been SINCE pre-lauch in some cases) having.  I guess my memory must be foggy, although I doubt it.

 /shrug

Call me a liar all you want. Think someone has called me just about everything there is at some point on these forums. Really have  no reason to lie about it. Not like I have an agenda.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  miguksaram

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/29/03
Posts: 827

7/09/12 12:34:49 PM#60
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by miguksaram
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Vutar

This is going to destroy this game if they don't fix it soon. I have never seen this level of issues in an MMO. Not being able to communicate with those in your group is ridiculous. I was sure this was going to be fixed today with the down time they had but it wasn't. In fact, it is almost worse than it was yesterday for me.

 

I've seen this happen in other games before. Nothing to start yelling the sky is falling over.

But it does need to be fixed soon and it is annoying as hell.

 

Which games? There is not one successful MMO that I can think of which had this level of chat problems.

 It happened in Rift

It happened in LotrO

It happened in WoW

This issue has cropped up in several mmos at one point or another.

It also happened in AoC but well...what didn't happen in AoC? Like I said it sucks...needs fixed....but not end of the world. If we're still having this discussion next week...then yeah it's time to start questioning what the hell is going on.

Hmm that is interesting, not calling you a liar or anything but I recall being there for are ALL those launches and not a single one had CHAT specific related issues to the extent TSW is currently (and has been SINCE pre-lauch in some cases) having.  I guess my memory must be foggy, although I doubt it.

 /shrug

Call me a liar all you want. Think someone has called me just about everything there is at some point on these forums. Really have  no reason to lie about it. Not like I have an agenda.

Is that to say, in your opinion, all those games you listed had chat related issues to extent TSW is currently experiencing AT LAUNCH?  The last part if very important because chat issues at an earlier (beta) or later (1 month+) date make a huge difference in the overall impact of the fan base.

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