Originally posted by Poison_Adele

Sigh. I voted yes because the poll was in general, but if you're referring specifically to Guild Wars 2, I disagree.

I'm a feminist, and frankly I think it's just as sexist when people call women in revealing clothing "dressing like prostitutes". Slut-shaming is just as crappy as oversexualizing women, people. 

I find your post overly simplistic. Yeah, lots of women don't want to play a character in revealing clothing. Lots of women do. A very small portion of the starting female armors are skimpy, and there are plenty of early-level alternatives. Guild Wars 2 has a fairly progressive set of armors. There's variety, so you don't feel like you're at a Mormon convention, and you're given the choice of whether or not you want to wear something skimpy, super skimpy, or church-appropriate. And frankly, even most of the skimpy outfits are not particularily sexualized--they're revealing for both male and female characters without looking like lingerie (the starting human cloth armor being a major exception).

I think you should honestly do some research into just what the GW2 armors look like before grumbling about "I don't want to look like a prostitute". There are tons of options and you aren't forced into wearing any of them.

 

sadly, very few care about being "crappy" to one another :(  but i feel this post pretty much covers all the bases.  if you don't like skimpy outfits get a non-skimpy outfit.

of all the games with female characters, this isn't the one to single out for this. it is one of the better games.

i feel some people are basing their opinions on the entirity of the game's wardrobe on just the starting outfits.

It's not really just about what YOUR character looks like, right? For those that think the outfits are too skimpy, they have to look around at a bunch of whores (in their mind) all the time.

So while yes, you can find conservative clothing in the game, the vast majority (as this flawless poll tells us) are going to be wearing sexy time outfits because they like them.

Disappointed that ANet is going back to this style. Thought they'd do a lot better than that.

Come on some of my cloths i look like a old women xD im looking forward to be high lvl and wear some nice sexier teen cloths :)

and btw others games are super mega worst with almost naked females.

Originally posted by colddog04

Originally posted by Cromica

The clothing for the femaies was actually designed by females  so I don't see an issue

lol...

 

Anyway, here's a nice sexy pic for reference...

Really, you pick the mesmer outfit?

A lot of the females we've seen have happened to be in some of the most revealing armor—probably not accidentally—but this doesn't appear to be a design rule for the game. The armor designs usually change very little between the sexes:

There are, however, some very notable exceptions:

Yet I've only noticed this in light armors—and a fraction of them, at that—which arguably aren't intended to protect you from sharp pointy things in the first place. Doesn't excuse the hilarious differences like the above, I'm just saying it doesn't seem rampant, and it is overall a hell of a lot better than the original Guild Wars in this regard.

Edit: That said, I voted yes, in the absence of a ‘yes, but there's been progress’-type option.

Men in some games are like muscular greek gods. I dont think that is much better... In games both men and women are often perfect stereotypes and not like normal people at all... But its not the real world. Its fantasy. I dont think its makes much diffeence if you are a man or a women. Some guy with a pot belly and tiny muscles will not feel much better if he looks at those "greek god" perfect men in the games.

Games are designed that way. Perfect sexy men and women. But you escape from reality when you are in a virtual world .Perhaps the character should look like what you would like to be. Or what you want to be in that virtual world.

As a personal rule I prefer to be sensibly clothed but in both BWE's using just drops I was wearing sensible clothes on whichever profession I was playing by level 5 (I tried all the professions).  In the end I don't care what others wear - I just need to have what I'm wearing work for me and GW2 offers enough options to keep me happy.  The really good news is that I don't need to waste inventory room saving my starter armor for looks later on:)

Originally posted by Hurvart

Men in some games are like muscular greek gods. I dont think that is much better... In games both men and women are often perfect stereotypes and not like normal people at all... But its not the real world. Its fantasy. I dont think its makes much diffeence if you are a man or a women. Some guy with a pot belly and tiny muscles will not feel much better if he looks at those "greek god" perfect men in the games.

Games are designed that way. Perfect sexy men and women. But you escape from reality when you are in a virtual world .Perhaps the character should look like what you would like to be. Or what you want to be in that virtual world.

I don't think you'll find that most women consider the overmuscled men of video games to be sexy. There's an audience for whom that's certainly true, but I'm pretty sure it's not enough to argue that it's done for the benefit of women. It serves the male player's power fantasies, not the female player's sex drive. i.e. Most of these games offer characters that are ‘perfect’ only from the expected average male player's perspective.

That said, Guild Wars 2's character creation does better than usual at offering both power-fantasy bodies and ladyboner bodies, I think.

Some outfits I would definitely agree, and I don't really like it.  I think it's really unnecessary and even a little lame/immersion breaking... however, it's no where near as bad as almost any other mmorpg.

The Secret World is actually great for not really doing this.

Originally posted by Cromica

The clothing for the femaies was actually designed by females  so I don't see an issue

of course. and those female designers in the interest of saving their jobs had no external design pressures put upon them by the game, the developers, or even the generally sexist attitudes of most of the industry.

When I think oversexualized I think Asian games like Tera, not GW2. Though the women can look good, I don't think they're sexualized let alone oversexualized. It's quite decent as far as MMO's go. In short, there are far worse out there and GW2 just isn't a good example of this.

All women I know love to dress their characters the most sexy way possible. They want to look hot. No matter if they are old or young in real life, their characters would be as sexy as possible.

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I think that many people on these forums have no idea that many of the sexy dressed characters and Aelins are real women. Some are women 60 years old. Generalization works bad both ways. Is not my problem if you don't know any woman that play mmos.

How could I not vote, "I like boobies!"? On a more serious note, I don't find the clothing/armor in GW2 as bad and oversexualized as many other games I have played. Thinking back on it, I feel most of the outfits I have seen on female characters looked pretty normal, or what I would expect of each race in a fantasy setting.

/shrug

Originally posted by chelan

Originally posted by Cromica

The clothing for the femaies was actually designed by females  so I don't see an issue

of course. and those female designers in the interest of saving their jobs had no external design pressures put upon them by the game, the developers, or even the generally sexist attitudes of most of the industry.

I'd agree that Cromica's argument is silly, but I think you're condescending to the artist with that sarcasm. Have you known many ovaried character artists in order to come to this notion, I wonder.

.... Really?

Most of the armors don't even show belly buttons, let alone anything else. I wasn't aware that women were supposed to completely veil their bodies in order to not be 'over-sexualized'. Now I'm not a neo-feminist, but I'd imagine that most female gamers want to be able to play a character that they think 'looks good', regardless of whether or not that means sexy. GW2 offers a lot of range in this regard, from the heavily protected Warrior types, to the more revealing scholar classes (most particularly the mesmer).

Keep in mind that the mesmers are supposed to be somewhat alluring. Part of their whole mystique is their ability to charm others, and that can mean sex appeal. However, if one wants to play more of a librarian lady, they can.

The males are all buffed out, so I dont see females being singled out for anything.

Some people are just a tad too sensative.

Indeed, Aesperus, although showing that at least it's not TERA maybe isn't the best way to make the point. 

Originally posted by Adalwulff

The males are all buffed out, so I dont see females being singled out for anything.

Some people are just a tad too sensative.

Talk about a false equivalence. It's more like you're saying ‘the males are designed to appeal to males, so why not the females too’. Seriously, who do you think that buffing-out is for?

I want to be on your side because there does tend to be a lot of overreaction on this topic, but that argument there just sucks.

sorry op i dun get it ive seern more skin than this on a normal beach :)

so no i dont think theyr oversexualized at all.

edit:: so yur basically sayin tht the female artists tht designed th clothes were so weak they nvr questioned and just blindly obeyed orders? :)