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  Hodo

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1/14/13 12:54:30 PM#141
Originally posted by pittpete

January 13th,  2013

5:30 P.M. EST U.S.A.

4 AO's

Not dead

That is all

Ok, you are new to the game let me help you out.

 

CRS changed the AO requirement population numbers to get more AOs due to lower populations then when the game came out.  

 

I was on on the 13th for a about an hour and I went to all 4 AOs, I seen at most 20 people at each AO, which is EXTREMELY low from the times the introduced them.   I can remember when there were almost a hundred if not hundreds of players at ONE AO, and it wasnt enough to draw 2 AOs let alone 4.  

So much crap, so little quality.

  Stug

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 399

1/14/13 1:01:09 PM#142
you can't be right. That other guy depot 12 said only 17 people were playing....as for your count from what I saw there was certainly way more than 20 axis players attacking vouziers. TZ have always caused number fluctuations on what is a 24/7 server, dynamic Half siZed map of euro land!

  rendus

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 332

1/14/13 1:04:48 PM#143
Originally posted by Hodo
Originally posted by pittpete

January 13th,  2013

5:30 P.M. EST U.S.A.

4 AO's

Not dead

That is all

Ok, you are new to the game let me help you out.

 

CRS changed the AO requirement population numbers to get more AOs due to lower populations then when the game came out.  

 

I was on on the 13th for a about an hour and I went to all 4 AOs, I seen at most 20 people at each AO, which is EXTREMELY low from the times the introduced them.   I can remember when there were almost a hundred if not hundreds of players at ONE AO, and it wasnt enough to draw 2 AOs let alone 4.  

I was on and off again several times yesterday.  And I was seeing the same thing you're seeing.  Initially I thought, "wow, plenty of AOs up, must be lots of people playing".   Then I started spawning into some of them only to find 10 or so people milling around looking for someone to shoot.   Aarschot was getting hammered yesterday afternoon and it was pretty populated, but that was the high point.  And late last night was pretty dead all around.

  pittpete

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Joined: 6/04/10
Posts: 243

1/14/13 1:34:20 PM#144

Hodo my man, let me school ya a little bit

Im not new

I've played on and off since Feb. of 2003

I was there when the game was phenomenal

You don't have to tell me about the history of the game

The past is the past

We are in the future

The title of the thread is "Why WWIIOL is dead"

IMO and many others, it is not dead.

I posted there were 4 AO's yesterday 

If the title was "WWII Online is not as active as it used to be a few years ago" I would agree with you.

It is obvious that a lot of you down inside love the game still but just dislike DOC and XOOM.

It is totally evident by most of your posts.

I don't play for DOC or XOOM or any of the other creators/Devs.

I play for me,myself and I.

I hope you have learned something today.

School is out.

  Stug

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 399

1/14/13 1:36:09 PM#145
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.
  rendus

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 332

1/14/13 1:42:11 PM#146
Originally posted by Stug
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.

Don't really care who is on TS.  There were only 10 -15 people per AO last night on Axis.  It's not hard to read the names and total up the numbers.  Is the invisible infantry bug so bad I can't see half the playerbase?  I doubt it.  Now I'm sure those playing the airwar (and navy, lol) will add to the numbers, but I can't see those due to F2P restrictions.  This evening, let's set up a time and go online at the same time and count the bodies.

  pittpete

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Joined: 6/04/10
Posts: 243

1/14/13 1:46:17 PM#147
Originally posted by Stug
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.

Stug, they are haters

They are hurt

They can't or won't ever see clearly.

FF has over 20 guys a night on at 1 time.

Blitzkader has sometimes 30+ on squad nights

DDZ on squad nights has 20 guys on

These are just 3 Axis squads that I'm familiar with.

I have 192 sorties this campaign which BTW isn't a lot

I have 8 pages of enemies I killed on the Allied side.

Each page is 25 enemies long

8 x 25 is = 200

Split that between UK and French personas

On the minimum, 100 Allied enemies I killed this campaign

I play late USA timezone during 2 AO max periods.

Not a  ton of players on at that time.

They need to do the math.

Hopefully logic and proof can get rid of the trolls and haters over here.

S!

  pittpete

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Joined: 6/04/10
Posts: 243

1/14/13 1:48:11 PM#148
Originally posted by rendus
Originally posted by Stug
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.

Don't really care who is on TS.  There were only 10 -15 people per AO last night on Axis.  It's not hard to read the names and total up the numbers.  Is the invisible infantry bug so bad I can't see half the playerbase?  I doubt it.  Now I'm sure those playing the airwar (and navy, lol) will add to the numbers, but I can't see those due to F2P restrictions.  This evening, let's set up a time and go online at the same time and count the bodies.

Rendus, how is crucifying this game going to help increase numbers if in fact you are telling the truth?

 

  depot12

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Joined: 9/24/12
Posts: 169

1/14/13 1:52:44 PM#149
Originally posted by pittpete
Originally posted by rendus
Originally posted by Stug
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.

Don't really care who is on TS.  There were only 10 -15 people per AO last night on Axis.  It's not hard to read the names and total up the numbers.  Is the invisible infantry bug so bad I can't see half the playerbase?  I doubt it.  Now I'm sure those playing the airwar (and navy, lol) will add to the numbers, but I can't see those due to F2P restrictions.  This evening, let's set up a time and go online at the same time and count the bodies.

Rendus, how is crucifying this game going to help increase numbers if in fact you are telling the truth?

 

Rendus isn't crucifyng the game.  You guys are coming over here telling us numbers are great and he posted his own observation.    Are you trying to get your name in all-caps or something?  Pretty typical CRS tactic change subjects and attack the player.

 

  pittpete

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Joined: 6/04/10
Posts: 243

1/14/13 2:04:49 PM#150

Are you guys all the same poster?

You do realize that counting guys on TS doesnt tell you how many people are logged into the game at a certain time?

 

Also BTW ,

Pittpete     Joined: 6/04/10

depot12   Joined: 9/24/12

Please don't tell me  "You guys are coming over here"

Wise up.

Use your real WWII Onlinegame name's, what are you guys afraid of?

 

 

 

  rendus

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 332

1/14/13 2:20:13 PM#151
Originally posted by pittpete
Originally posted by rendus
Originally posted by Stug
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.

Don't really care who is on TS.  There were only 10 -15 people per AO last night on Axis.  It's not hard to read the names and total up the numbers.  Is the invisible infantry bug so bad I can't see half the playerbase?  I doubt it.  Now I'm sure those playing the airwar (and navy, lol) will add to the numbers, but I can't see those due to F2P restrictions.  This evening, let's set up a time and go online at the same time and count the bodies.

Rendus, how is crucifying this game going to help increase numbers if in fact you are telling the truth?

 

I guess discussing the player population is off the table, you know, for the good of the game.  I thought, maybe, we could have some interesting discussions about the direction of the game, and some solutions to get it out of the hole it's in.  But you guys won't even admit there is a hole, much less the game is in one. 

You're just here as agents for CRS marketing and as such will not say anything that can be construed as negative.  And with that, I'm out.

Keep beating the drum guys, good luck and Godspeed.    

  rendus

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Joined: 10/14/08
Posts: 332

1/14/13 2:22:33 PM#152
Originally posted by pittpete

Are you guys all the same poster?

You do realize that counting guys on TS doesnt tell you how many people are logged into the game at a certain time?

 

Also BTW ,

Pittpete     Joined: 6/04/10

depot12   Joined: 9/24/12

Please don't tell me  "You guys are coming over here"

Wise up.

Use your real WWII Onlinegame name's, what are you guys afraid of?

 

 

 

The only person who mentioned TS is stug.  My original game name is rendus, search that in CS&R and my other handles will come up as well.  But like my post above says, I'm out.

  User Deleted
1/14/13 2:29:36 PM#153
Originally posted by rendus
Originally posted by pittpete
Originally posted by rendus
Originally posted by Stug
Weird. Are you guys playing the same game as me? Is their a lowest pop server you spawn on so you can ignore what is.actually going on in the real servers? There was over 160+ on Ts alone last night,.let alone the private servers or those who don't even use Ts.

Don't really care who is on TS.  There were only 10 -15 people per AO last night on Axis.  It's not hard to read the names and total up the numbers.  Is the invisible infantry bug so bad I can't see half the playerbase?  I doubt it.  Now I'm sure those playing the airwar (and navy, lol) will add to the numbers, but I can't see those due to F2P restrictions.  This evening, let's set up a time and go online at the same time and count the bodies.

Rendus, how is crucifying this game going to help increase numbers if in fact you are telling the truth?

 

I guess discussing the player population is off the table, you know, for the good of the game.  I thought, maybe, we could have some interesting discussions about the direction of the game, and some solutions to get it out of the hole it's in.  But you guys won't even admit there is a hole, much less the game is in one. 

You're just here as agents for CRS marketing and as such will not say anything that can be construed as negative.  And with that, I'm out.

Keep beating the drum guys, good luck and Godspeed.    

Very well put.  I'll also leave it at that since this place is fast becoming the 2nd private forums of CRS.

  Hodo

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Joined: 6/05/08
Posts: 559

1/14/13 10:37:51 PM#154
Originally posted by pittpete

Hodo my man, let me school ya a little bit

Im not new

I've played on and off since Feb. of 2003

I was there when the game was phenomenal

You don't have to tell me about the history of the game

The past is the past

We are in the future

The title of the thread is "Why WWIIOL is dead"

IMO and many others, it is not dead.

I posted there were 4 AO's yesterday 

If the title was "WWII Online is not as active as it used to be a few years ago" I would agree with you.

It is obvious that a lot of you down inside love the game still but just dislike DOC and XOOM.

It is totally evident by most of your posts.

I don't play for DOC or XOOM or any of the other creators/Devs.

I play for me,myself and I.

I hope you have learned something today.

School is out.

So you have been playing off and on since 2003.  Well replacement, you aint got nothing on me, DAY 1 here!   I was there on June 6th 2001, sitting behind my Celeron 333mhz computer at Ft Drum NY, while serving in the 10th MTN Division, also known as frozen hell on Earth.

 

I was there when there was one tree you could "clip" or climb up by laying prone next to it and moving sideways to the top.   I was there when night time was PITCH BLACK!    I was there when the German SMG fired backwards, and when the ATGs when pushed made this horrible grunting noise like they were "breeding" a sheep.    Yes I was there for all that and a bag of chips and the salsa too.  

 

So you are still "new" to me, when I can say I was there for the server up time of 45min and the 12 hour patch.  

 

Its nice you play for you, yourself and Irene.  

 

I would respect you less if you admited to playing for DOC or XOOM, again I dont know why everyone assumes I hate XOOM.   I barely remember him from the HC when it was founded, other than he had the stratigic skillset of a chimp.  

 

I learned you have confidence issues and you're trying to back the lack of experience up in game by trying to buck up to one of the few day 1 players left out there who still even LOOK at this game.  

 

I dont HATE WWIIOnline, I love the game, I just hate DOC, and believe the game would have been better off if he had left 6 years ago instead of so many others. 

 

3,053 2,355 1.30
Total stats from the 7 years active that I played before that account was permabanned by DOC for sending a patition signed by every squad in the axis side,   To do some fixes to the tier 0 aircraft tables, on all sides.  
 
They banned me and fixed it after the FASTEST campaign in WWIIOL history.   Thanks to the "walkout" by the axis side during that period to show to CRS we were serious.

So much crap, so little quality.

  pittpete

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Posts: 243

1/14/13 11:18:07 PM#155

Hodo, I'll let you in on a little secret.

I don't care for DOC either.

I think he's rude and treats some people like pure garbage.

I honestly wonder how many paying subs he drove away from the game over the years.

I'll probably catch crap for this but I wish he left also.

I'd take a Hatch and a Monty for 5 DOC's any day of the week.

I hope you understand mine and others positions though when we see people going way out of their way to bash the game.

Now if you started a thread about why DOC needs to wise up I couldn't argue that.....LOL

 

  Rigamortis

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Joined: 3/23/05
Posts: 220

1/14/13 11:34:03 PM#156
Originally posted by pittpete

Hodo, I'll let you in on a little secret.

I don't care for DOC either.

I think he's rude and treats some people like pure garbage.

I honestly wonder how many paying subs he drove away from the game over the years.

I'll probably catch crap for this but I wish he left also.

I'd take a Hatch and a Monty for 5 DOC's any day of the week.

I hope you understand mine and others positions though when we see people going way out of their way to bash the game.

Now if you started a thread about why DOC needs to wise up I couldn't argue that.....LOL

 

 Careful pittpete,  they may ban you for showing discontent for the devs here.....it has happened before.

  wrath04

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1/15/13 12:46:15 AM#157
Originally posted by Hodo
Originally posted by pittpete

Hodo my man, let me school ya a little bit

Im not new

I've played on and off since Feb. of 2003

I was there when the game was phenomenal

You don't have to tell me about the history of the game

The past is the past

We are in the future

The title of the thread is "Why WWIIOL is dead"

IMO and many others, it is not dead.

I posted there were 4 AO's yesterday 

If the title was "WWII Online is not as active as it used to be a few years ago" I would agree with you.

It is obvious that a lot of you down inside love the game still but just dislike DOC and XOOM.

It is totally evident by most of your posts.

I don't play for DOC or XOOM or any of the other creators/Devs.

I play for me,myself and I.

I hope you have learned something today.

School is out.

So you have been playing off and on since 2003.  Well replacement, you aint got nothing on me, DAY 1 here!   I was there on June 6th 2001, sitting behind my Celeron 333mhz computer at Ft Drum NY, while serving in the 10th MTN Division, also known as frozen hell on Earth.

 

I was there when there was one tree you could "clip" or climb up by laying prone next to it and moving sideways to the top.   I was there when night time was PITCH BLACK!    I was there when the German SMG fired backwards, and when the ATGs when pushed made this horrible grunting noise like they were "breeding" a sheep.    Yes I was there for all that and a bag of chips and the salsa too.  

 

So you are still "new" to me, when I can say I was there for the server up time of 45min and the 12 hour patch.  

 

Its nice you play for you, yourself and Irene.  

 

I would respect you less if you admited to playing for DOC or XOOM, again I dont know why everyone assumes I hate XOOM.   I barely remember him from the HC when it was founded, other than he had the stratigic skillset of a chimp.  

 

I learned you have confidence issues and you're trying to back the lack of experience up in game by trying to buck up to one of the few day 1 players left out there who still even LOOK at this game.  

 

I dont HATE WWIIOnline, I love the game, I just hate DOC, and believe the game would have been better off if he had left 6 years ago instead of so many others. 

 

3,053 2,355 1.30
Total stats from the 7 years active that I played before that account was permabanned by DOC for sending a patition signed by every squad in the axis side,   To do some fixes to the tier 0 aircraft tables, on all sides.  
 
They banned me and fixed it after the FASTEST campaign in WWIIOL history.   Thanks to the "walkout" by the axis side during that period to show to CRS we were serious.

First, I'd like to say respectfully, I'm here on my own...as Just a long-time player of this game. To support it here as much as I can. Not for any other Hidden Reason...but for myself..selfish in a way ,yes. But serious.

I have a question bud, So why not just come back and play with the rest of us if you love the game so much? I read your post so I understand you say you're perma banned but there are ,as you know, ways around that, anyway... We would love to have you back .If Doc is the reason, when was the last time you were in-game and spoke at length to Doc? Probably never or very little right?

I been in this game since Oct 2001 and you know how many times I've talked to doc In-game? ...Never have..And that's Honest! Never have mate... I like Doc personally but I don't know him, and he's never effected my gameplay in the least bit negativly, but that's just me... There's a reason for this, I just play the game I enjoy. and have a damn good time.  My Expectations are no further than they have always been...I watch the forums and read about the cool things but I have never let my expectations get ahead of me, And I never feel like I need some kind of Vet Entitlement man... Just because I been here supporting the game(like you did), doesnt make me feel like I need something extra.

You were on for about what 64000 min(roughly) in game since Cs&R and who knows how much before that,even though I don't remember you being on much back then, I also didn't know everyone either, so I guess you could have..My point is, I played the game for as long as you and as far as in game min goes(as wrath04), Longer!  And I know better than to Expect things that are said to be comming down the road or that all bugs be fixed "soon", I believe you ,as a Vet, should've too. It's a business man, things happen, no matter what's said to who. Your Ideas, while cool, might not be do'able for whatever reason.

who knows? Really, I think what's between you and Devs, should stay between you and devs, and not become you vs. the players.IMO

My Main point is, if you love the game so much, why not put the 2008 Hate in the past and re-join us Players in supporting this game, for our sake maybe, that is if you care about us players and have ever cared about this game?  Why not? You don't need to talk to the people you have a problem with to play with us, and I think you would be suprised at the Vets that still play.

Or you may not, I don't know. 

I read your post and what stood out the most was you say, in a nutshell, you really cared for the game. This is why I cared to ask.... anyway, this is not a flame, or anything like that, just questions, I'm curious about you is all. 

!S

  wrath04

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1/15/13 12:50:36 AM#158
Originally posted by Rigamortis
Originally posted by pittpete

Hodo, I'll let you in on a little secret.

I don't care for DOC either.

I think he's rude and treats some people like pure garbage.

I honestly wonder how many paying subs he drove away from the game over the years.

I'll probably catch crap for this but I wish he left also.

I'd take a Hatch and a Monty for 5 DOC's any day of the week.

I hope you understand mine and others positions though when we see people going way out of their way to bash the game.

Now if you started a thread about why DOC needs to wise up I couldn't argue that.....LOL

 

 Careful pittpete,  they may ban you for showing discontent for the devs here.....it has happened before.

:)

  Stug

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 399

1/15/13 4:45:10 AM#159
I'm here of my own back because people where exaggerating all sorts of bs about a perfectly good game for what it is, and that is something unique.

As to game being user? It ticks all my boxes. Is.it perfect? Of course not. But it is.way more effective than the way it was being bashed here so do excuse me if I correct you.

Everyone is.entitled to their own opinion, but don't make bull up that undermines an active community.

Ref Ts. Certainly not accurate a as more players than on Ts will be in game.
  argel

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Joined: 6/08/05
Posts: 34

1/15/13 6:30:55 AM#160

It's interesting that in the eyes of axishatr, depot, rendus, rigamortis, Hodo etc a person can't actually come and defend the game for what it is without being seen as shilling for CRS. Instead of having a normal discussion, they get real personal about the devs and the motives of those of us who defend the game.

As I think wrath alluded to, Hodo seems really hurt that his suggestions weren't taken on, and lets face it, a dude who calls another guy 'new' because he played a game for 11 years over the other guy's 9 years is clearly the type of guy with a sense of entitlement when it comes to gaming. The issues are off the scale there.

The other people like axishatr, depot, rendus etc just seem desperate for the game to die, which is sad. What could honestly be so bad about it surviving and - try to absorb this - you not playing it? Seriously, get a grip, get a life and move on.

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