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  Caliburn101

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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein

7/03/12 12:36:14 PM#161

The vote results clearly answer more eloquently than I can my opinion of the OP's point of view.

  ihatepugs

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7/04/12 12:28:34 AM#162

I like how I see the secret world ad on the side bars.  What components of the secret world would pull players away from Guild Wars 2's fanbase?   

I don't see the two being much competition for each other.  If you paid for the secret world, I imagine, you're prepared to pay the subscription if it's fun.  Then, there's not much motivation to turn your head away to play Guild Wars 2 come release.  Sounds like an unnecessary survey for a hypothetical question that will not exist.  The game release date was announced.  Arenanet spent years avoiding a release date.  It was announced two months in advance because that's probably how long it takes for boxed editions to hit the shelves.  

The financial consequences, we can study in retrospect and see if it's a good idea in two months.  It'd be an interesting study, but the survey holds no meaning.  And an interpretation of the ultimate results would be at best a guess.  There could be many factors contributing to the game not doing well in sales.  School in session, sudden rise in lay-offs, the game having a crippling bug announced, poor advertisement, etc.  They don't seem to be on that huge ad campaign swing yet, so there's not much to project.  

  bcbully

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7/04/12 12:41:30 AM#163

I honestly thougt the GW2 release date was forced by TSW when I first heard.  They couldn't just let TSW roll to November, December . TSW would probably be gearing up for its 2nd or maybe 3rd content update by then. By then people would be commited and waiting on the 2nd or 3rd raid, and/or the new warzone.

 

Pressure is own now. Let's see if NCsoft/Anet can get her done by August 28. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  bcbully

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7/04/12 12:50:08 AM#164
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by fiontar

I'm enjoying TSW, but I'm already a third of the way through the third zone and there are only eight zones in the game. There is no replay value, as there is no redundancy of content and the story is what make's it worth playing. I think most people will be "done" with TSW well before the release of GW2, so this poll doesn't have much worth.

Pretty much what I've been foreseeing since day one about TSW. Just like SW:TOR, fun game, but for a couple of months only.

Originally posted by heartless

I think that GW2 is releasing perfectly. TSW has enough content for about a month. The game basically suffers from the same thing that SWTOR does: it's too story driven. After you're done with the story and the quests, there is really nothing else to do. I mean, you can do hardmode instances or replay the same missions all over again or do BGs but otherwise, you're pretty much done. There is also a persistant PvP zone but it's not really big and it's not really good, if I had to be honest.

August 28th launch is good because it gives people time to finish TSW's story and mission content.

And we have a winner.

Well if your only talking about the story content... That's just 150 hours.

 

If you are talking about the investigations, the sabatage, the faction and the regular quest not to mention the ability wheel (600 hours or so for completion) or the elite modes and pvp. A raid will probably becoming around mid september too. So..... not really a win when looking at it like that.  More of "We better nail this launch."

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Derpybird

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7/04/12 12:57:34 AM#165
Originally posted by bcbully

I honestly thougt the GW2 release date was forced by TSW when I first heard.  They couldn't just let TSW roll to November, December . TSW would probably be gearing up for its 2nd or maybe 3rd content update by then. By then people would be commited and waiting on the 2nd or 3rd raid, and/or the new warzone.

 

Pressure is own now. Let's see if NCsoft/Anet can get her done by August 28. 

What are you basing this statement on? You are suggesting 3 content updates in 5 months inlcuding possibly 3 raids and a new warzone, when at most I have read that Funcom plans on having 1 raid read "by the Fall."

Does Funcom have a history of frequent updated content and bug fixes for their MMOs?

Can you link the developer interview where they discussed, specifically, this aggressive release shedule?

Thanks in advance.

We know, specifically, what ANet has said regarding their post-launch content development plans. And based on history that they do in fact deliver new content regularly. Is there reason to doubt their launch window for GW2 or their post launch plans? And since it is B2P, my guess would be that the pressure is more on Funcom to keep people subscribed to meet their 500k sub + cash shop purchase projections.

"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  bcbully

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7/04/12 1:09:31 AM#166
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by bcbully

I honestly thougt the GW2 release date was forced by TSW when I first heard.  They couldn't just let TSW roll to November, December . TSW would probably be gearing up for its 2nd or maybe 3rd content update by then. By then people would be commited and waiting on the 2nd or 3rd raid, and/or the new warzone.

 

Pressure is own now. Let's see if NCsoft/Anet can get her done by August 28. 

What are you basing this statement on? You are suggesting 3 content updates in 5 months inlcuding possibly 3 raids, when at most I have read that Funcom plans on having 1 raid read "by the Fall."

Does Funcom have a history of frequent updated content and bug fixes for their MMOs?

Can you link the developer interview where they discussed, specifically, this aggressive release shedule?

Thanks in advance.

2 content updates per 6 months is pretty much the norm nowadays. If you read closely the parts that I highlighted you will see clearly what I said. No need to interpret.

 

2 content patches by december is not a stretch. 2 raids in those two patches, not a stretch either. Against all odds a 3rd raid in 6 months? Well RIFT did it. So it's not out the question, but it is a stretch for any developer. 

 

Do I have a link? No, but even Bioware got 3 content updates out in 7 months. Do I need a link for just 2 maybe 3 content updates in 6 months? 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Connmacart

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7/04/12 1:21:01 AM#167
Originally posted by bcbully

I honestly thougt the GW2 release date was forced by TSW when I first heard.  They couldn't just let TSW roll to November, December . TSW would probably be gearing up for its 2nd or maybe 3rd content update by then. By then people would be commited and waiting on the 2nd or 3rd raid, and/or the new warzone.

 

Pressure is own now. Let's see if NCsoft/Anet can get her done by August 28. 

2nd or 3rd update by november december? You should be glad if Funcom manages the first one by then. Funcom was the one that was forced to release during the summer. It was the only viable release period for them and not have them having to scramble for subs right off the bat. Hell they even delayed 2 weeks due to Diablo 3. They've shown zero confidence in their game and they know TSW does not have any staying power after the 2 months. The game has zero replayability which means you can only grind and grind when done with the story. 

TSW simply was made to be a singleplayer RPG not an MMO.

 

  Connmacart

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7/04/12 1:23:12 AM#168
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by bcbully

I honestly thougt the GW2 release date was forced by TSW when I first heard.  They couldn't just let TSW roll to November, December . TSW would probably be gearing up for its 2nd or maybe 3rd content update by then. By then people would be commited and waiting on the 2nd or 3rd raid, and/or the new warzone.

 

Pressure is own now. Let's see if NCsoft/Anet can get her done by August 28. 

What are you basing this statement on? You are suggesting 3 content updates in 5 months inlcuding possibly 3 raids, when at most I have read that Funcom plans on having 1 raid read "by the Fall."

Does Funcom have a history of frequent updated content and bug fixes for their MMOs?

Can you link the developer interview where they discussed, specifically, this aggressive release shedule?

Thanks in advance.

2 content updates per 6 months is pretty much the norm nowadays. If you read closely the parts that I highlighted you will see clearly what I said. No need to interpret.

 

2 content patches by december is not a stretch. 2 raids in those two patches, not a stretch either. Against all odds a 3rd raid in 6 months? Well RIFT did it. So it's not out the question, but it is a stretch for any developer. 

 

Do I have a link? No, but even Bioware got 3 content updates out in 7 months. Do I need a link for just 2 maybe 3 content updates in 6 months? 

Go look at AoCs content updates. Don't give me that different team shit either. They simply won't be able to pump out content in any fast manner due to the engine.

  stevebmbsqd

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7/04/12 1:25:23 AM#169
Originally posted by Connmacart
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Derpybird
Originally posted by bcbully

I honestly thougt the GW2 release date was forced by TSW when I first heard.  They couldn't just let TSW roll to November, December . TSW would probably be gearing up for its 2nd or maybe 3rd content update by then. By then people would be commited and waiting on the 2nd or 3rd raid, and/or the new warzone.

 

Pressure is own now. Let's see if NCsoft/Anet can get her done by August 28. 

What are you basing this statement on? You are suggesting 3 content updates in 5 months inlcuding possibly 3 raids, when at most I have read that Funcom plans on having 1 raid read "by the Fall."

Does Funcom have a history of frequent updated content and bug fixes for their MMOs?

Can you link the developer interview where they discussed, specifically, this aggressive release shedule?

Thanks in advance.

2 content updates per 6 months is pretty much the norm nowadays. If you read closely the parts that I highlighted you will see clearly what I said. No need to interpret.

 

2 content patches by december is not a stretch. 2 raids in those two patches, not a stretch either. Against all odds a 3rd raid in 6 months? Well RIFT did it. So it's not out the question, but it is a stretch for any developer. 

 

Do I have a link? No, but even Bioware got 3 content updates out in 7 months. Do I need a link for just 2 maybe 3 content updates in 6 months? 

Go look at AoCs content updates. Don't give me that different team shit either. They simply won't be able to pump out content in any fast manner due to the engine.

and you know this because you are a professional game developer and are familiar with the engine or are you just being the armchair developer that thinks he knows everything? 

  bcbully

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7/04/12 1:28:07 AM#170
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When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  slicknslim88

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7/04/12 2:26:21 AM#171

I voted NO, no reason to delay the game any longer, 5 years at least development time is long enough.  Release the game already!

Also those other MMO's that have come out recently such as TERA, TSW, and SWTOR aren't even on my radar simply because they have the P2P subscription model.  I'm not a broke person, but that payment type has become archaic and unnecessary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c

Brings up plenty of points on why current gen MMO's with the P2P sub model are destined to fail unless they evolve.  WoW is an exception simply because it rose up when that payment model was plausible and somewhat necessary.  This isn't 2004 anymore, and WoW as well as these other P2P MMO's need to wise up fast.

  Vortigon

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7/04/12 11:59:42 AM#172


Originally posted by Krimzin
The only reason TSW had a decent release is because there is "NOTHING" worth playing atm. So as the saying goes.. Something is better than NOTHING. I even considered trying TSW, but after one beta weekend.. Id rather poke out my eyes with a dull spoon, seems like a lot more fun.


+1

Saying that TSW is a threat in any way to GW2 is pure LOL

  AI724

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7/04/12 12:19:08 PM#173
Originally posted by VultureSkull

With what looks like a very good release of TSW would it not be wise for GW2 to postpond release until say end of September, that will give a full clear month after the free month you get with TSW.

NONE SENSE!

 

What the hell is TSW?? 

 

yah.. exactly!

  p_c_sousa

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7/04/12 12:26:33 PM#174

TSW will almost none impact on GW2, TSW must "fear" GW2 not the contrary. both are great games but GW2 have much more attenttion/hype/etc.

just check the hits on MMORPG, GW2 is almost reach TOR on 1 year hits and TSW that already is release dont even came close to GW2.

i really dont see any competition from TSW, one is a P2P game other is  B2P (many will play both) and release date of GW2 is 2 month later than TSW isnt like they gonna be released at same time

  Ice-Queen

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7/04/12 12:29:41 PM#175
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What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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  User Deleted
7/04/12 12:37:47 PM#176
Originally posted by p_c_sousa

TSW will almost none impact on GW2, TSW must "fear" GW2 not the contrary. both are great games but GW2 have much more attenttion/hype/etc.

It's not even about hype or attention. It's about TSW's content nature.

In two months, many will have played through the totality of TSW at last once, just like it happened in SW:TOR. Those people will be looking for something new to play.

  bcbully

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7/04/12 12:47:46 PM#177
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by p_c_sousa

TSW will almost none impact on GW2, TSW must "fear" GW2 not the contrary. both are great games but GW2 have much more attenttion/hype/etc.

It's not even about hype or attention. It's about TSW's content nature.

In two months, many will have played through the totality of TSW at last once, just like it happened in SW:TOR. Those people will be looking for something new to play.

You keep saying this and ignoring there is WAY more than the 150 hours of story content. there is 600 hours of the ability wheel alone. Not to mention investigation, sabatage, faction, action, and side quest, or the lore and achievments, and elite mode dungeons and PVP. By the way a upcoming raid too. Oh and the best crafting on the market. (next to eve :p)

 

This is just launch for TSW. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that TSW will have a major content update right around the corner from Aug 28.

 

edit - I've been playing hardcore for 3 months now and still wake up every morning like "I need to do X"

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  User Deleted
7/04/12 1:07:48 PM#178
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by p_c_sousa

TSW will almost none impact on GW2, TSW must "fear" GW2 not the contrary. both are great games but GW2 have much more attenttion/hype/etc.

It's not even about hype or attention. It's about TSW's content nature.

In two months, many will have played through the totality of TSW at last once, just like it happened in SW:TOR. Those people will be looking for something new to play.

You keep saying this and ignoring there is WAY more than the 150 hours of story content. there is 600 hours of the ability wheel alone. Not to mention investigation, sabatage, faction, action, and side quest, or the lore and achievments, and elite mode dungeons and PVP. By the way a upcoming raid too. Oh and the best crafting on the market. (next to eve :p)

Oh yes, sure - exactly like SW:TOR - Bioware promised countless hours of story content too. And TSW has even less.

But we will know soon enough ;)

  Brorz

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7/04/12 1:36:54 PM#179

 

Originally posted by StrangeEyes
Originally posted by megera23

I'll bite. Chances are that TSW will suffer more because of GW2, than the other way around. Anyway, I don't personally care about TSW at all, so nope, no reason to postpone anything.

Im with you 100% no reason to postpone.

 

 

I totally agree. I voted 'no' 

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7/04/12 1:42:25 PM#180
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by p_c_sousa

TSW will almost none impact on GW2, TSW must "fear" GW2 not the contrary. both are great games but GW2 have much more attenttion/hype/etc.

It's not even about hype or attention. It's about TSW's content nature.

In two months, many will have played through the totality of TSW at last once, just like it happened in SW:TOR. Those people will be looking for something new to play.

You keep saying this and ignoring there is WAY more than the 150 hours of story content. there is 600 hours of the ability wheel alone. Not to mention investigation, sabatage, faction, action, and side quest, or the lore and achievments, and elite mode dungeons and PVP. By the way a upcoming raid too. Oh and the best crafting on the market. (next to eve :p)

Oh yes, sure - exactly like SW:TOR - Bioware promised countless hours of story content too. And TSW has even less.

But we will know soon enough ;)

You're right. It's true, but i'm still waiting for somebody to explaing this apperantly infinite amount fo content GW2 as. In fact TOR actually had alot of stories to see, but that didn't players decided to stick around. Still waiting to see how this is any different in GW2. And yes, it's no different in TSW.

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