Originally posted by tares

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by Finit

Originally posted by tares

TSW is so bad the CEO left, it is short and boring after I beat most of it in closed beta. GW2 will own it.

like I asked before,what is TSW's plan to keep players from bailing when GW2 releases or WoW's MoP releases? As it seems like TSW is dying already.

Oh God please no...He's not one of us I swear.  Guild Wars 2 is a very good game, but why does that entitle you to bash every other game that releases?

 

Espescially those arguments are very impressive. NOT, i have been accused of fanboiisme myself a lot, but allways based on real arguments, tough not allways understood. But mindlessly bashing other games is truely the lowest one can get on these boards. TSW is a good game. But despite all the fub i have playing it, GW2 is far more complete then TSW, but then TSW is aiming at different people.

I know little of GW2 now so not a fanboy, I base my premise on GW2's popularity, such as preorders. I know a lot of TSW so feel like I can bash it as it is to short and repetitive for an MMO IMO.

As a matter of fact I usually pointat the positives in games, even though they are not for me.

The guys and gals at Anet are very confident in their product. they're not scared of any possible competition out there. At least that's what they've been telling us. They're going to look at their own schedule and that's it.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

With what looks like a very good release of TSW would it not be wise for GW2 to postpond release until say end of September, that will give a full clear month after the free month you get with TSW.

Bearing in mind that GW2's main income will be from box sales they would want to maximize the opportunity and look for an ideal release time, so soon after the release of TSW could prove very damaging for the box sales.

With time a lot of players will get GW2 but releasing so soon after a good releasing AAA title can not help intended sales, they have waited this long another month cannot hurt.

I don't think the two games directly compete. The setting of TSW will keep willing players in. I expect it to settle somewhere above Rift numbers. If any, TSW will be the one affected, because there are people out there who plays the game as an interim while waiting for the next thing to come out.

You just want people to get 3 month sub in TSW so you wont be playing in a ghost town.

I'm not sure why they'd need to postpone because of TSW. In regards to the free month that will already be past by what? up to 24-25 days (depending on when folks bought TSW and started playing)...

Also keep in mind gamers that want multiple MMO's have subscribed to multiple MMO's in the past, and in this case with GW2 being B2P and no subscription, if it's a game they are interested in they will buy it, either now or a little bit later.

And if you are worried about servers, I don't believe TSW is going to make for empty GW2 servers. Just my opinions though.

GW2 gots too much oomph for TSW to get in the way. What people could do if they don't have enough money is they could stop paying subscription for TSW for 4 months and just get GW2. After the 4 month period then they could play both if they have the time and feel like it.

Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

Originally posted by likwidsage

I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.

Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.

On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.

No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.

People buy what they know, what's the most accessible, and don't always think about what's better. It's a sad truth.

I will agree with you on everything else though. I don't think TSW and GW2's subs will affect much. Also keep in mind, as has been said a million times, Anet literally does not care if you play another MMO. They got your 60, whatever else they get is gravy. They built a game with no sub, so you can actually play two MMOs and they'll be just fine. In a couple posts, they've all but encouraged it! 

While I think the game is far from perfect (but what is, besides Portal, raspberry fudge brownies, and my opinion?)  GW2 is well polished, what we've seen so far is a great start, and it's a thousand times better than some launches I've been a part of. As long as the other two races are ready for release and Anet works as dilligently as they have been, I'm satisfied. 

I think that GW2 is releasing perfectly. TSW has enough content for about a month. The game basically suffers from the same thing that SWTOR does: it's too story driven. After you're done with the story and the quests, there is really nothing else to do. I mean, you can do hardmode instances or replay the same missions all over again or do BGs but otherwise, you're pretty much done. There is also a persistant PvP zone but it's not really big and it's not really good, if I had to be honest.

August 28th launch is good because it gives people time to finish TSW's story and mission content.

TSW is relatively unknown. I can bring up GW2 at the office and people know what I'm talking about, I've seen a few people with GW2 shirts, and there's an office GW2 guild.

TSW? Looks of confusion. 

Yeah, I don't think so...

My hope is that GW2 sucks all the Wow players into it. this would be for some great popcorn moments here and on the games forums, and it kills Wow just a little more.

Win Win for me.

Can't wait.

OMG - NO WoW People please.... My left eye ball is already wobbling and blinking uncontrolably over the mere thought!

Let them go to Warhammer online...

Originally posted by fiontar

I'm enjoying TSW, but I'm already a third of the way through the third zone and there are only eight zones in the game. There is no replay value, as there is no redundancy of content and the story is what make's it worth playing. I think most people will be "done" with TSW well before the release of GW2, so this poll doesn't have much worth.

Pretty much what I've been foreseeing since day one about TSW. Just like SW:TOR, fun game, but for a couple of months only.

Originally posted by heartless

I think that GW2 is releasing perfectly. TSW has enough content for about a month. The game basically suffers from the same thing that SWTOR does: it's too story driven. After you're done with the story and the quests, there is really nothing else to do. I mean, you can do hardmode instances or replay the same missions all over again or do BGs but otherwise, you're pretty much done. There is also a persistant PvP zone but it's not really big and it's not really good, if I had to be honest.

August 28th launch is good because it gives people time to finish TSW's story and mission content.

And we have a winner.

WTH are talking about ? GW2 is launching on 28th of August, two months after TSW release. That's plenty of time for many people to get bored with TSW. Not saying that lack of sub cost will allow them to keep playing their current p2p MMOs and try GW2. The game itself carries enough hype to attract players. This is not a small indie MMO.

Just looking at the early start statistics ( web page traffic and Xfire) I don't think TSW has had much of a impact on any game either released or to be released. I seriously doubt there will be a huge rush to BB today and anyone interested in TSW is already playing.

I think postponing GW2 would be a bad decision right now. Fans are anticipating it, people put their money on it, game is close to finish. Mists of Pandaria are far more dangerous for GW2 than TSW. And August 29th is 2 months after TSW comes out, which gives plenty of time for TSW doubters to switch over.

TSW targets a rather different market to GW2, for one. Many people who want to get GW2 have no interest in TSW (like myself). I know people are not used to this, but two MMO's can coexist. And I hope TSW does well so people have more games to choose from and not try to put all features into one game.

Originally posted by Irus

Many people who want to get GW2 have no interest in TSW (like myself).

This is true of course, different games for different people.

What I also noticed though is quite a bunch of people here who only bought TSW because they are bored and have nothing else to do until GW2 is released. I had already noticed the same trend for SW:TOR, by the way, you had a bunch of "hopefully SW:TOR will keep me busy until GW2 is released".

After being in TSW's closed beta, I took another route and reactivated my WoW account and am doing some PvP. It's still more polished and balanced than the PvP in SW:TOR or TSW, and hopefully it will feed my MMO needs until August 25.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

With what looks like a very good release of TSW would it not be wise for GW2 to postpond release until say end of September, that will give a full clear month after the free month you get with TSW.

Bearing in mind that GW2's main income will be from box sales they would want to maximize the opportunity and look for an ideal release time, so soon after the release of TSW could prove very damaging for the box sales.

With time a lot of players will get GW2 but releasing so soon after a good releasing AAA title can not help intended sales, they have waited this long another month cannot hurt.

TSW will be the one to worry on this, GW2 has already had one decent pre-order launch. As too players, GW2 has always prided their setup to allow for gamers to play more than one game. Thus Box sales, and Major Game expansion sales, It seems to be a strong business plan for them as well. But in the end if you wish to play TEW feel free GW2 will be there when you return, and with it scale down model if your friends are ahead of you they can still come back to play with you at your level. That is the beauty of this game, you can join in at any point and have fun. So for those that think School may get in way they need not worry. GW2 has the future of gaming locked in solid. I see the game world coming to a new way of thinking. Lets hope it keep evolving, it needed a kick in the bottom. I am tired of cookie cutting Asian games that you can say, that looks just like Game so and so things are just renamed.  GW2 hpye is right, there is something times many for everyone.

According to Arena.net, 8/28/2012 is "when it's ready".  I'm good with that.....

But, But, I don't want to play a cartoon figures while having LSD flashbacks of the late 1960's... GW2 UI is beautiful but not when it comes to the actual character. I LOVE the concepts and game play of GW2!!! No more whining over who killed what or people crying that you stole my kill etc...