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  User Deleted
6/27/12 2:45:32 AM#21

Last game I bought from them was the first Dragon Age, which was okay. I ended up watching the Mass effect series on youtube, given how they are largely cinematic based games. 

I probably won't buy anything at release, especially now that they are a part of EA.

  Jyiiga

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6/27/12 8:12:52 AM#22

Ive bought and played....

KOTOR

KOTOR 2

DA

DA2

MA

MA2

SWTOR

 

SWTOR lasted me around two months. It was fun for awhile and then I just flat ran out of fun stuff to do.

DA2 was "mostly" fun, but I was annoyed with the lack of companion customization and the constant reuse of areas.

MA3 I have been scared to even buy. People hated the ending so much that they are releasing an extended ending DLC.

 

At this point I'm getting to where I lack interest in their games all together. They will have to prove themselves before I spend money on them again. No more preordering.

 

 

  psychobgr

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6/27/12 8:27:08 AM#23

I own Dragon Age one and Awakening and loved it. Bought Dragon Age two and thought it was nowhere near as good as the first. I have other Bioware games Knight of the Old Republic was awesome. So I went for SWTOR thinking Bioware would'nt mess this up. How wrong was I ><

  I won't be buying another Bioware game until I have tried it or seen a few reviews. Not sure if EA is completely to blame as Dragon Age and Awakening has EA on the box and that turned out pretty good.

 

  Kabaal

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6/27/12 8:28:40 AM#24

I buy most single players when Steam have them on sale cheap. Even if i didn't i'd still consider any Bioware game as they've made more good than bad ones.

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  Pale_Fire

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6/27/12 4:30:23 PM#25
Originally posted by Isasis
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

You probably need to take Mass Effect 3 off that list.  With the exception of the ending, it was a pretty good game.  Many many people have very high praises for ME3.

The metacritic user score says different

Metacritic user scores have no credibilty anymore.  People often vote games down because they either don't like the developer/publisher.  See Modern Warfare/Battlefield ratings.  Not to mention every other high profile game that has been released.  User ratings are meaningless.

  Nevarion

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6/27/12 4:33:23 PM#26
Originally posted by Pale_Fire
Originally posted by Isasis
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

You probably need to take Mass Effect 3 off that list.  With the exception of the ending, it was a pretty good game.  Many many people have very high praises for ME3.

The metacritic user score says different

Metacritic user scores have no credibilty anymore.  People often vote games down because they either don't like the developer/publisher.  See Modern Warfare/Battlefield ratings.  Not to mention every other high profile game that has been released.  User ratings are meaningless.

 

That's a contradiction. They might not have any meaning or impact for you but meaningless? Nope.

  Corthala

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6/27/12 4:37:16 PM#27

Have you seen the "new" ME3 endings? I liked the "F* u end" but the rest was just copy/paste image of each other with a diferent dialogue and they still left the dialogue with the kid and the old man in the end...even if it didnt made any sense anymore.

 

 

 

BIoware lost it's track and it needs to get it soon or they will lose the support of their fans. I won't bash them because of 2 games because I loved almost every other game they realised but they need to make something good soon.

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  Pale_Fire

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6/27/12 4:43:44 PM#28
Originally posted by Nevarion
Originally posted by Pale_Fire
Originally posted by Isasis
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

You probably need to take Mass Effect 3 off that list.  With the exception of the ending, it was a pretty good game.  Many many people have very high praises for ME3.

The metacritic user score says different

Metacritic user scores have no credibilty anymore.  People often vote games down because they either don't like the developer/publisher.  See Modern Warfare/Battlefield ratings.  Not to mention every other high profile game that has been released.  User ratings are meaningless.

 

That's a contradiction. They might not have any meaning or impact for you but meaningless? Nope.

It was not intended as a blanket statement.  However, when people vote down a game solely because of the company that is developing or publishing it, it tells you nothing about the quality of the game.  That is when user ratings are meaningless.  Rate the game, not the company. 

To be fair, there are quite a few game ratings on Metacritic that aren't tainted by popularity contests.  But games with big hype and companies with a poor reputation in the gaming community are often dealt bad hand.

 

  UsualSuspect

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6/27/12 4:49:33 PM#29

I'm not going to be buying anything from them at release, especially if they stay with EA. I think that's the main problem, EA keep pushing for faster release dates and shipping unfinished or unpolished products, which really is just stupid. Like SW:TOR should have shipped with Legacy and Group Finder already in place, but no doubt was forced into an early release so it could grab the Christmas sales. They might have made some cash from that, but the unfinished product has driven a lot of people away.

The same deal with ME3, it's so obvious when you look at the original ending and compare it to the EC ending that the original was just rushed out the door. I've no doubt the rumors about two people writing that ending are true, it's probably the only way they could get it out in time to keep EA happy, avoiding having to push it through the rest of the team and decide over story or plot holes.

What I'm hoping is that the storm over the ME3 ending makes EA think twice next time they consider an early release date. Bioware can't take another bad release, it'll harm their name and EA's - if it's possible to make EA even worse than they already are.

  Nevarion

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6/27/12 4:53:45 PM#30
Originally posted by Pale_Fire
Originally posted by Nevarion
Originally posted by Pale_Fire
Originally posted by Isasis
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

You probably need to take Mass Effect 3 off that list.  With the exception of the ending, it was a pretty good game.  Many many people have very high praises for ME3.

The metacritic user score says different

Metacritic user scores have no credibilty anymore.  People often vote games down because they either don't like the developer/publisher.  See Modern Warfare/Battlefield ratings.  Not to mention every other high profile game that has been released.  User ratings are meaningless.

 

That's a contradiction. They might not have any meaning or impact for you but meaningless? Nope.

It was not intended as a blanket statement.  However, when people vote down a game solely because of the company that is developing or publishing it, it tells you nothing about the quality of the game.  That is when user ratings are meaningless.  Rate the game, not the company. 

To be fair, there are quite a few game ratings on Metacritic that aren't tainted by popularity contests.  But games with big hype and companies with a poor reputation in the gaming community are often dealt bad hand.

 

 

I do agree.

  sumdumguy1

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Joined: 2/20/11
Posts: 578

6/27/12 5:00:07 PM#31
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Ive bought and played....

KOTOR

KOTOR 2

DA

DA2

MA

MA2

SWTOR

 

SWTOR lasted me around two months. It was fun for awhile and then I just flat ran out of fun stuff to do.

DA2 was "mostly" fun, but I was annoyed with the lack of companion customization and the constant reuse of areas.

MA3 I have been scared to even buy. People hated the ending so much that they are releasing an extended ending DLC.

 

At this point I'm getting to where I lack interest in their games all together. They will have to prove themselves before I spend money on them again. No more preordering.

 

 

Ironically with the exception of the ending ME3 is one of their really good games.  There is also free missions you can download.  IMO I think Mass Effect 3 is a pretty solid game.  Using metacritic as a source for rating games is like using McDonalds as a source for nutritious food.

  kaguhoO

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6/27/12 5:00:30 PM#32
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

mass effect 3 was perfectly fine especialy with the extended cut,just because the last 5min didnt do it doesnt mean the WHOLE game sucked.

 

ppl complained about the ending not about the overall quality of thegame wich was fantastic.

 

DA2 agree

swtor agree

  sonoggi

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6/27/12 5:04:01 PM#33

ME3 wasnt a fail, it's an amazing game with a huge community and a successful multiplayer. ME series is all ive ever bought from BW. DA2 and TOR were epic fails on the other hand..not sure what teams were working on those.

  Sunscour

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6/27/12 5:08:24 PM#34

Oh I would buy on release if it were a game I was interested in.

And for me personally (remember this is what we like to call an opinion.) I don't think they have had repeat fails.

I liked ME3, DA2 was fun. I did not play Star Wars because I'm not a Star Wars fan.

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  Atom31

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6/28/12 3:02:58 AM#35

More like Not

Bought DA, ME, ME2, ME3. Luckaly didn't bought DA2. Couldn't get in 3rd ME played for an hour or two. Level dessign and combat felt so bland. I hope to somehow finish it some day, at least for the story and I hope that last DLC improves the ending, which I hear is really weak.

  Sora2810

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6/29/12 2:40:34 AM#36

Depends on the franchise. I will buy another KOTOR (maybe it'll happen..), I'll buy another ME game. Screw it, give me another jade dynasty. 

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  Reklaw

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6/29/12 4:01:42 AM#37

I have most of Bioware released games, except ME3 and SWToR.

I sort of waiting with ME3 since I still have allot of other games I want to play and-or finish.

For SWToR I might eventually get it, but I might try the game with a different mindset and might go into it not MMORPG style but just going with it as a KOTOR 3 game with online options. Somehow I feel going in with this mindset might grand me a better experiance then expecting a true MMORPG experiance. But still it´s on my list to play but not in a hurry to get it.

I must say I am pretty curieus to what Bioware will do with the Command & Conquer series, since they are going to be be developing the nex chapter. http://www.joystiq.com/2011/12/10/bioware-announces-command-and-conquer-generals-2/

 

  TheCrow2k

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6/29/12 4:06:26 AM#38
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

I think maybe they are too big now & so their quality control has gone down hill. The handfull of people who made older Bioware games great are now too stretched I think.

After SWTOR my confidence is really shaken, I doubt I will buy any release titles from them any time soon.

  User Deleted
6/29/12 12:08:53 PM#39
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

I comepletely done with Bioware my last game was DA: Origin after a while it grow on me was not realy bad game.

But now im fed up with Bioware. But i was always greater fan of Bethesda anyway and so far they have not let me down with latests great installment the AWESOME SKYRIM kudo's to them for bring me a game in 2011 thats so immersive and beautiful even when its in DX9(im pure PC player so hoped for DX11 but i forgive them for great skyrim) and one of best exploring solo RPG of all time.

  Panther2103

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6/29/12 12:16:46 PM#40
Originally posted by Nevarion
Originally posted by Pale_Fire
Originally posted by Isasis
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Originally posted by Isasis

Mass Effect 3...Dragon Age 2...and now SWTOR.

 

All have been heavily critizied. However, their older games...Mass Effect 1 and 2...Dragon Age 1...even before that...have been critically acclaimed. After they got bought by EA, it seems their games are no longer the quality they once were.

And SWTOR is already talking about turning free and losing a good portion of their servers. It did much horribly than anticipated.

Will you still buy Bioware games at release? Do you still enjoy Bioware's new games? Or are you disatisfied with their latest games they have made?

You probably need to take Mass Effect 3 off that list.  With the exception of the ending, it was a pretty good game.  Many many people have very high praises for ME3.

The metacritic user score says different

Metacritic user scores have no credibilty anymore.  People often vote games down because they either don't like the developer/publisher.  See Modern Warfare/Battlefield ratings.  Not to mention every other high profile game that has been released.  User ratings are meaningless.

 

That's a contradiction. They might not have any meaning or impact for you but meaningless? Nope.

Metacritic has no meaning to a games user rating. It's very true if the game has any form of DRM you have the Anti-DRM pack go and rate it 0 to 2 out of 10 because of that alone. They wont even buy or play the game so you know right off the bat it isn't going to be a valid rating in the actual overall score. Next you have the anti publisher pack, that goes and rates based off of the fact that it's an EA published or an Activision published game, they swear they will not buy another EA or Activision or Bioware game so you will have a skewed rating based off of that group that hasn't played it either. It's a very unreliable way to look at ratings, similar to IMDB ratings (which I do read reviews on from time to time) but now a days publishers and developers are so afraid of metacritic ratings that they have to base bonuses off of that.

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