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  heartless

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6/26/12 2:09:51 PM#21
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by heartless

Also, Fusang was incredibly tiny

You really think it's incredibly tiny?  Really? 

It's not on the scale of GW2, but...wow.  I think you're greatly understating the size.

But I guess it's all subjective.

It isn't even the size of Alterac Valley, if you've ever played WoW.

For a battleground, the size is fine. For a persistant zone, not so much.

  ShakyMo

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6/26/12 2:10:03 PM#22
It was BETA, they opened everything up to "level 1" so that it could get tested.
  ShakyMo

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6/26/12 2:10:59 PM#23
I played wow - its bigger than av - a lot bigger.
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6/26/12 2:11:03 PM#24
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Kuppa:

The 2 battlegrounds are ranked based on your gear.

Fusang is for level 9 gear and up (there are only 10 gear levels in tsw).

Then the ranking system is still not working very well then, because I saw folks with better gear and was getting one shot in them :(

One shot in Fusang or battlegrounds?

Fusang is open right now for everyone - it won't be at launch.  You gotta get to Egypt.

 

  ShakyMo

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6/26/12 2:12:29 PM#25
El dorado is about the size of av
Fusang is like 5 times the size of av and just over half the size if a WvW map.
  Kuppa

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6/26/12 2:12:59 PM#26
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It was BETA, they opened everything up to "level 1" so that it could get tested.

You do know we are a couple of days away from release. "BETA" is not something you call the code one week from release. And they definately don't have enough time to get that right by release when there are many other games out there that even after release have crappy matchmaking.....


  Valua

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6/26/12 2:14:06 PM#27
Originally posted by drakes821

I didn't get a chance to try CB 4 and I was wondering what everyone thought of the PvP.

I've read and heard mixed things so far and I'm trying to decide if I should pre-order (my pre-order isn't just based on the PvP though) so any information helps.

 

It's the most polished PvP I've ever played in a game this new.

 

Rift and The Old Republic felt clunky and buggy.

 

I wouldn't say it is as polished as WoW, but it's closer than most.

 

It's also fun, you'll like it as a distraction to PvE (You have to remember this IS a PvE game.)

  User Deleted
6/26/12 2:14:42 PM#28

PVP in TSW is only gear based for a small amount of time. BG's are ranked, and you can only enter Fusang with QL10 (or is until you reach Egypt which is where you get QL10). Anyway, it's alot better than other mmorpgs IMO, where you need to be max level, and even dungeon crawl to no end, to get the best gear.

Here you get it mid-game and you can craft it too, since it's going to be such a big part of the game apperantly.

  heartless

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6/26/12 2:15:05 PM#29
Originally posted by ShakyMo
El dorado is about the size of av
Fusang is like 5 times the size of av and just over half the size if a WvW map.

It really isn't but whatever. The game launches in a few days, we'll be able to check then.

  Kuppa

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6/26/12 2:16:10 PM#30
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Kuppa:

The 2 battlegrounds are ranked based on your gear.

Fusang is for level 9 gear and up (there are only 10 gear levels in tsw).

Then the ranking system is still not working very well then, because I saw folks with better gear and was getting one shot in them :(

One shot in Fusang or battlegrounds?

Fusang is open right now for everyone - it won't be at launch.  You gotta get to Egypt.

 

That is the point I was trying to get accross. If you don't mind not beign able to pvp from start to finish then it might be fine. And with that said I can't really say its good after because I never got high enough level.


  Kuppa

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6/26/12 2:16:51 PM#31
Originally posted by ShakyMo
El dorado is about the size of av
Fusang is like 5 times the size of av and just over half the size if a WvW map.

. Don't know about wow but its just about over half the size of a WvW map.


  ShakyMo

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6/26/12 2:17:03 PM#32
I'm not on about the code. I'm on about they changed the rules for the open beta to allow lower ranked characters into fusang than would be allowed in live game.

The 2 battlegrounds were matched on gear, if you got it handed to you in there the players might have had slightly better gear, but its more likely they had a superior pvp deck. I was owning in open beta battlegrounds on my char in QL3 gear, because I've been in closed beta for months and knew good pvp decks.
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6/26/12 2:17:58 PM#33
Originally posted by heartless
 

It isn't even the size of Alterac Valley, if you've ever played WoW.

It's actually much bigger than AV.  Like way bigger.

  Kuppa

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6/26/12 2:19:21 PM#34
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I'm not on about the code. I'm on about they changed the rules for the open beta to allow lower ranked characters into fusang than would be allowed in live game.

The 2 battlegrounds were matched on gear, if you got it handed to you in there the players might have had slightly better gear, but its more likely they had a superior pvp deck. I was owning in open beta battlegrounds on my char in QL3 gear, because I've been in closed beta for months and knew good pvp decks.

If by owning you mean one shot deaths then I was definately owned. And if that is possible on a "balanced" playing field then I definately would skip this games pvp.


  ShakyMo

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6/26/12 2:21:57 PM#35
Also "endgame" isn't wow style tiered progression, there won't be gear above level 10 and you can craft level q10 gear. Once your out of Egypt its more about diversity than raw power. So there won't be the constant need for rebalancing it baby eating competitions you normally get in themepark games (obviously gw2 will be good in this regard also)
  User Deleted
6/26/12 2:22:22 PM#36
Originally posted by Kuppa
 

That is the point I was trying to get accross. If you don't mind not beign able to pvp from start to finish then it might be fine. And with that said I can't really say its good after because I never got high enough level.

I understand now.  Yeah that has been a bone of contention with many people.  Battlegrounds will be open right from the beginning basically.

Fusang doesn't open up until you get to Egypt and it's tied to a storyline.  You'll get about QL9 stuff at that point.

You will not be able to do Fusang in TSW from the beginning like you can GW2.  Some actually like that, others don't.

 

  User Deleted
6/26/12 2:24:43 PM#37

Are we getting into the GW2 comparasions again? We already had this discussion. While you can jump into wvw from level 2, there's still a difference in gear level, so you have to get it via pve to be a "equal footing", just like TSW.

Neither game let's you play in a completly fair and balanced way from level 1 (or 2) (or QL1)

  Kuppa

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6/26/12 2:26:39 PM#38
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

Are we getting into the GW2 comparasions again? We already had this discussion. While you can jump into wvw from level 2, there's still a difference in gear level, so you have to get it via pve to be a "equal footing", just like TSW.

Neither game let's you play in a completly fair and balanced way from level 1 (or 2) (or QL1)

For the record, it wasnt me! 


  ShakyMo

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6/26/12 2:27:30 PM#39
They already fixed my build kuppa. Basicly my build was a semi exploit getting pen procs to cause multi hits and hit procs to buff pen, and every hit to trigger spreading dots in a cycle of death. Also there caught other op combos involving ar burst buffs. It's a mmo they are gonna need to balance it, especially at the start.
  User Deleted
6/26/12 2:30:32 PM#40
Originally posted by Kuppa
 

For the record, it wasnt me! 

LOL you and I both know what you were refering to.  ;)

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