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  Nitth

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6/25/12 9:27:02 PM#161


Originally posted by Navek
games not worth it, its ok but thats as far as I would rate it, just OK, deffo not worth paying 13 quid plus a cash shop.

I thought it was worth it, i payed $200 for the lifetime sub, and they threw in 30,000 funcom points to boot.


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  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

6/25/12 9:27:23 PM#162
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Hrimnir

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 1146

6/25/12 9:28:31 PM#163
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

  Saxonblade

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Joined: 6/11/12
Posts: 286

6/25/12 9:31:14 PM#164
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

That horse has been beaten also where have you been?

yea already was many discussions on that topic in GW2 forums

Yes and all of them turned out that it was ok because it is B2P and most people agreeing that it was wrong were labeled as haters, I don't see the difference a rip off is a rip off

If you read that thread some people were okay others were not, just like this thread. I can see other topics that I might agree with you but not this one, it was also very discussed just like if cash shop gems have an increased price in EU, heck I like GW2 and I won't agree with that either.

Your are more the exception then the rule over there, I like both games and plan to play both but I hardly post over there due to the venomous nature of the fanbois there.

  Aerowyn

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

6/25/12 9:36:48 PM#165
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

fair enough.. generally when people don't quote something in particular they are repying to the OP which your response was not what this thread was started about

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 5057

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

6/25/12 9:38:26 PM#166
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

That horse has been beaten also where have you been?

yea already was many discussions on that topic in GW2 forums

Yes and all of them turned out that it was ok because it is B2P and most people agreeing that it was wrong were labeled as haters, I don't see the difference a rip off is a rip off

If you read that thread some people were okay others were not, just like this thread. I can see other topics that I might agree with you but not this one, it was also very discussed just like if cash shop gems have an increased price in EU, heck I like GW2 and I won't agree with that either.

Your are more the exception then the rule over there, I like both games and plan to play both but I hardly post over there due to the venomous nature of the fanbois there.

Really? This coming from a poster who a few pages back insulted someone's nationality? And even then didn't have the decency to use the correct one.

  heartless

Novice Member

Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 5057

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

6/25/12 9:41:04 PM#167
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

It has nothing to do with the cost. It has to do with whether or not the subscription fees are justified. And no, being "FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment" is not a justification for extra fees.

  Saxonblade

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/11/12
Posts: 286

6/25/12 9:43:17 PM#168
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

That horse has been beaten also where have you been?

yea already was many discussions on that topic in GW2 forums

Yes and all of them turned out that it was ok because it is B2P and most people agreeing that it was wrong were labeled as haters, I don't see the difference a rip off is a rip off

If you read that thread some people were okay others were not, just like this thread. I can see other topics that I might agree with you but not this one, it was also very discussed just like if cash shop gems have an increased price in EU, heck I like GW2 and I won't agree with that either.

Your are more the exception then the rule over there, I like both games and plan to play both but I hardly post over there due to the venomous nature of the fanbois there.

Really? This coming from a poster who a few pages back insulted someone's nationality? And even then didn't have the decency to use the correct one.

Was that after he insulted us americansbut that is ok right???? I used the word Russian because I knew he was from Belarus, just like he blanketed all americans, want me to go on 

  Saxonblade

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/11/12
Posts: 286

6/25/12 9:46:07 PM#169
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

It has nothing to do with the cost. It has to do with whether or not the subscription fees are justified. And no, being "FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment" is not a justification for extra fees.

We get you don't like sub games do you have to just keep posting it over and over. I have an idea for you make your own I hate sub thread and respond all you want. All I ever see from you is negativity about TSW again we get you don't like the game.

  User Deleted
6/25/12 9:47:56 PM#170
Originally posted by heartless

It doesn't even look like Brooklyn to be honest 

Oh really?

  heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 5057

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

6/25/12 9:49:10 PM#171
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

That horse has been beaten also where have you been?

yea already was many discussions on that topic in GW2 forums

Yes and all of them turned out that it was ok because it is B2P and most people agreeing that it was wrong were labeled as haters, I don't see the difference a rip off is a rip off

If you read that thread some people were okay others were not, just like this thread. I can see other topics that I might agree with you but not this one, it was also very discussed just like if cash shop gems have an increased price in EU, heck I like GW2 and I won't agree with that either.

Your are more the exception then the rule over there, I like both games and plan to play both but I hardly post over there due to the venomous nature of the fanbois there.

Really? This coming from a poster who a few pages back insulted someone's nationality? And even then didn't have the decency to use the correct one.

Was that after he insulted us americansbut that is ok right???? I used the word Russian because I knew he was from Belarus, just like he blanketed all americans, want me to go on 

You missed my point. You're saying that you're avoiding the venomous nature of the fanbois on GW2 forums and yet here you are, contributing in making these forums as unfriendly as possible.

  heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 5057

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

6/25/12 9:51:06 PM#172
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by heartless

It doesn't even look like Brooklyn to be honest 

Oh really?

No, the streets and whatnot are similar but the feel is not there. I don't know how to explain it better.

  Hrimnir

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 1146

6/25/12 9:52:34 PM#173
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

It has nothing to do with the cost. It has to do with whether or not the subscription fees are justified. And no, being "FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment" is not a justification for extra fees.

No, actually it doesnt, it has to do with whether or not the price of the service or product is a good value for the money.

If you're going to try to play that card then you need to start complaining and refusing to pay for sodas.  Cus guess what, that 12oz can you're drinking cost them 1-2 cents AT MOST to can, and you paid somewhere between 20-50cents a can for it.  But guess what, you dont mind because 20 cents a can is still a reasonable value because of the enjoyment you get out of it.

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

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6/25/12 9:53:47 PM#174
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by heartless

It doesn't even look like Brooklyn to be honest 

Oh really?

No, the streets and whatnot are similar but the feel is not there. I don't know how to explain it better.

Well it does look like Brooklyn then.  Feelings are more subjective.

  heartless

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6/25/12 10:07:27 PM#175
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by heartless

It doesn't even look like Brooklyn to be honest 

Oh really?

No, the streets and whatnot are similar but the feel is not there. I don't know how to explain it better.

Well it does look like Brooklyn then.  Feelings are more subjective.

It doesn't look like the Brooklyn that I grew up in. It a bunch of warehouses next to a bridge. Which is not what "Brooklyn" is.

I cannot speak for London and Seoul since I never visited those places but I can tell you for a fact that the chosen Brooklyn location does a very poor job of representing the actual real city.

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6/25/12 10:12:38 PM#176
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by jdnyc

That is a lot - it's over $20 US converted.

Meh! Skip a candy bar or a soda. It's about  .66 cents US per day.   

Yea no kiddin.  $20.00 a month for entertainment is very cheap.  Thank God I dont dabble in Car Stereos or Collectible Trading Cards any more., if anyone has a rightto bitch its other hobbies.  My wife spend about $75.00 a month in Clay Pottery and Kiln rental fees so I think I got a bargain for choosing MMO's as my hobby of choice.  I even know guys who spend hundreds of dollars a month on maintenance and travel fees due to their hobby of Harley Davidson excursions across the country.  Seriously we as gamers have no right to bitch at ALL.

  Hrimnir

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6/25/12 10:54:19 PM#177
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by jdnyc

That is a lot - it's over $20 US converted.

Meh! Skip a candy bar or a soda. It's about  .66 cents US per day.   

Yea no kiddin.  $20.00 a month for entertainment is very cheap.  Thank God I dont dabble in Car Stereos or Collectible Trading Cards any more., if anyone has a rightto bitch its other hobbies.  My wife spend about $75.00 a month in Clay Pottery and Kiln rental fees so I think I got a bargain for choosing MMO's as my hobby of choice.  I even know guys who spend hundreds of dollars a month on maintenance and travel fees due to their hobby of Harley Davidson excursions across the country.  Seriously we as gamers have no right to bitch at ALL.

Yep, i used to do 4wheeling/rock crawling in the rocky mountains, just about every time you go up somethings is gonna happen, shear a centering pin off your leaf springs, bust a brake line, etc.  You can drop 4+ grand a year on that hobby just keeping your rig up and runnin.

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

  heartless

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6/25/12 11:48:47 PM#178
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

It has nothing to do with the cost. It has to do with whether or not the subscription fees are justified. And no, being "FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment" is not a justification for extra fees.

No, actually it doesnt, it has to do with whether or not the price of the service or product is a good value for the money.

If you're going to try to play that card then you need to start complaining and refusing to pay for sodas.  Cus guess what, that 12oz can you're drinking cost them 1-2 cents AT MOST to can, and you paid somewhere between 20-50cents a can for it.  But guess what, you dont mind because 20 cents a can is still a reasonable value because of the enjoyment you get out of it.

I guess the fact that a large chunk of AAA MMOs have adopted a F2P model, shows that $15 a month is not a very good value for the service or product.

  Swammy22

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6/25/12 11:57:36 PM#179

It is all because we do not have that currency symbol on our keyboards! I am telling you that is it!!

  Panthien

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Posts: 566

6/26/12 12:09:21 AM#180
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Hrimnir

People that complain about subscription costs for an MMO are so full of it i can't even begin to describe.

The harsh reality is if you can't afford 15-20/mo for an MMO, you can't afford to be a gamer.

When's the last time you went out to eat?  You can't even get a Mcdonalds value meal in the US for less than $6usd, cut 2 of those out a month, holy crap theres your monthly sub.

Spent $1.50 on a bottled water recently?

Went to a movie with your girlfriend recently?  You dropped at least $30 on that, for what, 2 hours of entertainment, and maybe 15 minutes more entertainment later that night?

MMO's are FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment you can get that involves computers, or gaming in general.  No single player game can touch it, certainly other forms of entertainment aren't close.  A music CD is $15 for roughly an hours worth of music, a movie is 15-20 for 2 hours worth of entertainment.

Seriously stop bitching people, its amazing, see the forest for the trees for once.

you even read the OP?

Yes, there are also 17 other pages of responses where people have been discussing how MMO subscriptions are ridiculous and blah blah, i was responding to them.

It has nothing to do with the cost. It has to do with whether or not the subscription fees are justified. And no, being "FAR AND AWAY the cheapest form of entertainment" is not a justification for extra fees.

No, actually it doesnt, it has to do with whether or not the price of the service or product is a good value for the money.

If you're going to try to play that card then you need to start complaining and refusing to pay for sodas.  Cus guess what, that 12oz can you're drinking cost them 1-2 cents AT MOST to can, and you paid somewhere between 20-50cents a can for it.  But guess what, you dont mind because 20 cents a can is still a reasonable value because of the enjoyment you get out of it.

I guess the fact that a large chunk of AAA MMOs have adopted a F2P model, shows that $15 a month is not a very good value for the service or product.

Not saying you are wrong , but Im curious of which AAA mmos you talk about who adopted the f2p model.

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