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  Quizzical

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6/19/12 2:15:19 PM#21

You knew right from the start that they had an awful way of partitioning players into servers.  Losing your names is just filling in the details of why it's awful.

You know what you can do about it?  Cancel your account.  Anything short of that constitutes giving your assent.

  SQTO

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6/19/12 2:16:22 PM#22
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by AZHokie54

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NO NO NO NO NO!

This is NOT negotiable!

This is NOT arbitrary!

 

...

 

If you name is John, and suddenly you are forced to be called Jim, would you not be upset?

There is a huge difference between someone’s real name and your name in an online video game.  I don’t understand why people believe they are entitled to the names over others and no it does not matter how many years you have used those names because that time doesn’t count in swtor. 
 
After reading these forums for a few months it seems that you are always threatening to quit over something and there is always something to complain about and I don’t understand why you keep playing if it makes you so unhappy.
 
  Xthos

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6/19/12 2:22:15 PM#23

It sucks, but I do not agree with someone coming onto someone elses original server and being able to take their name....Your server was dead and sucked, you pay the price.  It has been like that, now if it all formed some new server, then you could have some rules....But if it is existing, you shouldn't be screwing someone that has been on that server.

  raistlinm

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6/19/12 2:23:36 PM#24
Originally posted by Elikal

God, I am so mad right now. You see, the JekkJekkThar finally got it's "merge" with The Harbinger. Now when I moved my chars, I lost my names. ALL OF THEM. Ok save, Elikal, but I lost SEVEN of my EIGHT names. And yes, I understand for some people it means nothing. But you see, I have these same 5 names for 8 frigging years. I am attached to them, some especially.

I was Akim TelBane in SWG for 7 frigging years.

I was Akim TelBane in EQ2 for 6 years.

I was Akim TelBane in LOTRO for 3 years.

And they TOOK THE NAME FROM ME.

 

I had extra preordered SWTOR. I had entered the game in the first few minutes to make sure I get those names I always have. Akim, Matteo, Aryan, Sarnok and Elikal. I have these persona every time. Heck, they even more or less LOOK the same, have the same bio. And now, all but Elikal were taken. Chance is by people who cancelled or came much later. This stinks. And for me it is really the breaking point, where I feel like, ok I can't take it anymore. Not ANOTHER compromise.

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And the reason you lost those names is because someone else who pays just like you do is already using them and like many of us (myself included) they have probably been using the same names just as long as you.

It sucks to be you (and me I switched servers on my own and lost most of the names I use too) but just be glad you obviously like the game enough to not go through with your boycott threat.......

  Elikal

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OP  6/19/12 2:25:27 PM#25
Originally posted by Quizzical

You knew right from the start that they had an awful way of partitioning players into servers.  Losing your names is just filling in the details of why it's awful.

You know what you can do about it?  Cancel your account.  Anything short of that constitutes giving your assent.

I did this now. *sigh*

No more compromise. Not again. Not with my names I carried for so many years through so many games.

 

EDIT: I added the people with "my" names as friends, and for a second you see their levels. My lost name chars were level 50, 50, 42, 37 und 28. They are: 11, 10, 1, 3 and 8. Good riddance, now I am REALLY angry. Bah. I hope Bioware burns and crashes. Star Wars fandom or no, I so have enough of being treated like dirt.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  raistlinm

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6/19/12 2:26:47 PM#26
Originally posted by udon

Did they ever spell out how duplicate names where being hanled because I never saw anything?

If you transfer from your original server to a new one and someone has that name on that server already then you have to choose another name, simple as that.

The only alternative I am aware of is to use a "@" in front of the name like STO did and that sucked for me I could never get used to that.

  Icewhite

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6/19/12 2:31:05 PM#27
Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Ummmm, I thought you gave up on TOR a long time ago. You flip/flop more than anyone I've ever met.

Not as much as...never mind, the last thing I need is to wake up the sleeping blogger.  Can't stay awake for an Archeage prayer meeting and revival today anyway.

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  raistlinm

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6/19/12 2:31:37 PM#28
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by AZHokie54

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If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.

 

I guess it would make many players angry, if you return to a beloved char for an expansion or what and find it renamed in "DofusXYZ12345". Still, if a merge happens, IMVPO the older taken should have precedence.

and they are supposed to investigate the names you used in other games?????

Chances are whoever is using your names on the server you transfered to have been using them since launch just like you.

Glad that you are an active member both here and in TOR but dude you have some very serious entitlement issues.

  Bama1267

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6/19/12 2:32:17 PM#29
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Naming conventions in MMORPGs have to change.

The Secret World has instituted the best new system so far.

First "NIckname" Last.

Allows people to have the same first and last names. But requires a unique Nickname.

Its very effective.

The first 5 nick names I came up with in that game were all taken. I finally had to make up a dumb one that didnt fit my characters first or last name at all. I would say it wasnt very effective unless the person only cares about the first name.

  Gunned813

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It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful.

6/19/12 2:32:37 PM#30

Generally when you use extremely common, overused names like the ones you listed, you run into this problem. Not one of my six toons had to change names.

I have seen Aryans in every single game I've played across multiple servers, for example. A little creativity doesn't hurt.

  Delvie

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6/19/12 2:32:51 PM#31

Much sympathy to the OP.  More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online.  More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters.  Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?

 

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  raistlinm

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6/19/12 2:35:42 PM#32
Originally posted by Delvie

Much sympathy to the OP.  More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online.  More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters.  Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?

 

trust me it wouldn't matter if it wasn't this we would get a post complaining about something else entirely this is standard operating procedure.

I pretty much went through the same thing when I switched servers on my own I've been using my stage name for my ingame name since before I played mmorpg's and I used it in mmorpgs as well have had the same name in every game I played but had to come up with a few variations once I decided to switch servers.

But honestly none of this is neither here nor there this isn't about bad policy it is about entitlements and of course those who hate TOR and will cosign any negativity they can sniff out.

  MosesZD

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6/19/12 3:30:44 PM#33
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by AZHokie54

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If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.

 

 

You have to be subbed to transfer.   He bought early to get his name.   The mergers did him in.   I'm sure that if re-subbed, I'd lose half, or more, of my names.   Which, would tick me off.   I wouldn't make a rant about it in a forum.   

 

Plus, even if he 'won' this round, this isn't the end of the transfer/mergers.   This is Phase 1 of Round 1.   Phase 2 will be mandatory transfers off the dead servers 'for your own good.'   Just like they did with Warhammer right before they axed 63 of the 100 servers.   Then will come the next obligatory 'we support this game' statement.   Just like they did before Warhammer's Round 2...   A few rounds "we're committed to this game" followed by mandatory transfers and closures and SWTOR will be looking a lot like Warhammer, whihc has, last I read, just two servers left.   98% closure rate.

 

I honestly expect close to the same with SWTOR.   The decline curve is the decline curve and it's so close to Warhammer's decline curve it's not even funny.     Plus I look at the server my characters were assigned to.   It's not any healthier than my old server when I quit.   And it was difficult getting groups then.    So it may, for a while, pump up the base, but it'll fade once again as people just keep quitting.

 

And it's not like BioWare can do anything about it...   Their hands are tied.   Their servers only hold so many people.  There is no way they can make a massive, fundamental change to the game in a short time.  So they'll just keep doing controlled burns until everything is consolidated as far as it can be consolidated. 

 

My only question at this time is do they wipe out France or Oceania first?    I bet Oceania.   They can play on US or European servers like the did before they moved.

  MosesZD

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6/19/12 3:33:51 PM#34
Originally posted by Bama1267
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Naming conventions in MMORPGs have to change.

The Secret World has instituted the best new system so far.

First "NIckname" Last.

Allows people to have the same first and last names. But requires a unique Nickname.

Its very effective.

The first 5 nick names I came up with in that game were all taken. I finally had to make up a dumb one that didnt fit my characters first or last name at all. I would say it wasnt very effective unless the person only cares about the first name.

 

Me too.   They database keys on the 'nickname.'   I thought that was really stupid and they should use all three.   If you name your self, for example:  John Big Boote the data base could have you as JohnBigBoote.

 

But the way it is now, if someone gets John Big Boote, you can't do John Big River or John Big Fish or John Big Pun...

 

 

 

  Kyleran

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6/19/12 4:43:37 PM#35
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by AZHokie54

[mod edit]

If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.

 

I guess it would make many players angry, if you return to a beloved char for an expansion or what and find it renamed in "DofusXYZ12345". Still, if a merge happens, IMVPO the older taken should have precedence.

IMO, once you leave, you lose all rights to the names, the current paying customers have the right to them.

Besides WOW, how many people really ever go back?

 

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  Atlan99

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6/19/12 5:21:24 PM#36
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by AZHokie54

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NO NO NO NO NO!

This is NOT negotiable!

This is NOT arbitrary!

 

...

 

If you name is John, and suddenly you are forced to be called Jim, would you not be upset?

[mod edit[

In all fairness. You can stay on your original server and keep those names. It was your choice to move.

  Mexorilla

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6/19/12 5:50:01 PM#37

@OP yeah that sucks.  i would be pretty upset. 

  Castillle

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6/19/12 6:03:10 PM#38

Cryptic solved this even before WoW came out and Im surprised that people dont follow suit with waht CoX/CO as much. 

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  Trionicus

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6/19/12 6:03:14 PM#39
3 out of 5 of those names are quite popular, that being said priority should go to the older character, or higher level character.
  Quizzical

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6/19/12 6:08:36 PM#40
Originally posted by Delvie

Much sympathy to the OP.  More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online.  More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters.  Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?

 

You're on the right track.  Games do need to plan ahead on how they'll handle names, well before the game launches, to ensure that no one has a name he's attached to taken away, apart from offensive names.

But planning for server mergers is the wrong way to go.  It's far better to have a server architecture that makes mergers irrelevant.  For example, Champions Online has seen wild population swings, but never had server mergers.

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