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  Grohmm

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4/06/13 11:49:32 AM#41

Posted by Vembumees on 4/05/13 at 11:28:52 PM

Best. Post. Ever!!

 

And in order to answer to blind people who couldn't recognise a Dali with a Van Gogh..

Of course WS has Cartoony look... But all the core design is original, it's not realistic bodies (look to the humans chests) like WoW.

So yeah, it "looks like WoW", so it looks like jak and daxter, ratchet and clank and omg WS has double jump just like Crash Bandicoot which is also cartoony... omFg !! Clone!

Seriously, forge your own opinion instead of being a sheep and quote the close-minded.

P.S : English's not my native language btw so I apologise for the semantics mistakes!

  Zapzap

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4/06/13 9:14:49 PM#42
Originally posted by Yaumul

Anything but WoW... except the art style which is almost identical. Check out this shot:

http://www.zam.com/Im/Image/231535.jpg

  The screenshot looks like it could have been taken in the Barrens from WoW.

Of course its going to look like WoW.  It is being created by the same artists and developers that created WoW and left Blizzard in 2005 o form Carbine and make a game for hardcore raiders rather than the casuals that WoW is only made for since they changed direction to let everyone win.

  Squeak69

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cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

4/06/13 9:24:43 PM#43
Originally posted by Grohmm

Posted by Vembumees on 4/05/13 at 11:28:52 PM

Best. Post. Ever!!

 

And in order to answer to blind people who couldn't recognise a Dali with a Van Gogh..

Of course WS has Cartoony look... But all the core design is original, it's not realistic bodies (look to the humans chests) like WoW.

So yeah, it "looks like WoW", so it looks like jak and daxter, ratchet and clank and omg WS has double jump just like Crash Bandicoot which is also cartoony... omFg !! Clone!

Seriously, forge your own opinion instead of being a sheep and quote the close-minded.

P.S : English's not my native language btw so I apologise for the semantics mistakes!

sorry but there is a diffrence between looking like WoW and looking cartony none of those games look like WoW, where as everything i have sen of this game screams WoW at me, which nessasary a bad thing i enjoy WoW (just hate battlenet) but to be honest im tired of that art style in general.

why do people keep saying anything cartoony is WoWish its just not the case, WoW has a distinct art style, and trying to defend wildstar by saying lots of games look cartoony just makes no sence. might as well defend wildstar by compareing it to RoboTech (note if you do i will . . . .well i wont do anything but ill rage at my screen for a few mins followed by headdesking )

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  jesteralways

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4/06/13 9:32:47 PM#44
ok so why did people start to call it wow clone? because quest givers have ! above their head? let me ask you, when you look at the emergency evacuation door and it's ! sign do you think "wow clone"? when you see the fire alarm and ! on it do you think "wow clone"? it is simple common sense, ! sign attaracts people, it makes us think something is strange here or  it is trying to tell us something, this is how human brain works. how many games before wow used ! to show POI or to show quest givers? too many, why? it is common sense. when i come to mmo community and find people calling everything wow clone because somewhere there is !, i think  : "mmo world is filled with morons". no wonder mmo these days are only going downhill.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Squeak69

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cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

4/06/13 9:36:29 PM#45
Originally posted by jesteralways
ok so why did people start to call it wow clone? because quest givers have ! above their head? let me ask you, when you look at the emergency evacuation door and it's ! sign do you think "wow clone"? when you see the fire alarm and ! on it do you think "wow clone"? it is simple common sense, ! sign attaracts people, it makes us think something is strange here or  it is trying to tell us something, this is how human brain works. how many games before wow used ! to show POI or to show quest givers? too many, why? it is common sense. when i come to mmo community and find people calling everything wow clone because somewhere there is !, i think  : "mmo world is filled with morons". no wonder mmo these days are only going downhill.

because the color palette and art style are identical to WoW, every video pituce adn anything i see of that games look exactly like WoW to include the char and building skeltons.

serosly lok at the two game side by side (not useing MoP but the orriginal WoW stuff) i dont know how anyone can NOT think its a WoW clone.

 

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  jesteralways

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4/06/13 9:39:07 PM#46
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by jesteralways
ok so why did people start to call it wow clone? because quest givers have ! above their head? let me ask you, when you look at the emergency evacuation door and it's ! sign do you think "wow clone"? when you see the fire alarm and ! on it do you think "wow clone"? it is simple common sense, ! sign attaracts people, it makes us think something is strange here or  it is trying to tell us something, this is how human brain works. how many games before wow used ! to show POI or to show quest givers? too many, why? it is common sense. when i come to mmo community and find people calling everything wow clone because somewhere there is !, i think  : "mmo world is filled with morons". no wonder mmo these days are only going downhill.

because the color palette and art style are identical to WoW, every video pituce adn anything i see of that games look exactly like WoW to include the char and building skeltons.

serosly lok at the two game side by side (not useing MoP but the orriginal WoW stuff) i dont know how anyone can NOT think its a WoW clone.

 

now you are going to say cartoon animation is also wow clone. ok good, have fun.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Zapzap

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Joined: 3/31/13
Posts: 223

4/06/13 9:43:45 PM#47
Originally posted by jesteralways
 how many games before wow used ! to show POI or to show quest givers? .

Basically none.  AC2 used some quest markers and had some quest directed gameplay but nowhere near to the extent of WoW.  Not to mention no one played AC2.  WoW was the first quest directed MMO and its design has been copied by others.  Ac2 to a degree but not like WoW.  WoW started the movement to ! marks and quest directed gameplay and it was because of WoW's design that everyone else copied that part of their design and every MMO now has exclamation points.

  Thupli

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4/07/13 1:00:37 AM#48
Originally posted by Vembumees

I remember many year ago, some of my friends told me to watch family guy, that show is hilarious. Still to this day I remember that...horror. I sat on my couch, turned on the tv and patiently waited for the show to begin. Then I saw it. The opening. I watched it all through and could barely hold it. The sight was sickening. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. That's what the world has come to? This is what they air these days? The entire show...was a copy of wow. They absolutely copied wow. Zero originality. The entire show looks like world of warcraft. That's simply ridiculous. Why do people even watch that shit? Instantaniously I just threw my television set out of the window and jumped out of my window.

 

Originally posted by Yaumul

Anything but WoW... except the art style which is almost identical. Check out this shot:

http://www.zam.com/Im/Image/231535.jpg

  The screenshot looks like it could have been taken in the Barrens from WoW.

I know, my friend! Is that even legal? These guys should get sued for copying wauw! I also saw another game like that today. Look at this. These phonies, again, just a copy of barrens. That is ridiculous. They even took the same mobs like in barrens! There are hounds exactly like that at the back of the barrens too, near exactly the same bushes! And look its the everyday barrens alliance ganker too! I hate thse phonies. I HATE THEM. Can't at least one game out there have original ideas that they just didn't copy off WoW???

 

No it doesn't stop here, look at this. Look, what does this next picture remind you. Exactly! It's Stormwind!! Can you believe it? Stormwind, in that game, that's ridiculous. Thieves I tell you, can you guess what that castle is surrounded with? A forest. I know, I was amazed too. Complete copy of elwynn forest. There are even same kind of buildings and npcs there. I can't believe that these people are getting paid to do this. Con artists!

Swamp of sorrows! Copy paste!

They even copied the cataclysm underwater area! Those...those....trolls!

can u believe this???? what does this look like to u?

I am done with these games, I will go buy a lifetime world of warcraft subscription. I am done with all these cloning unoriginal stealing thief scum thug phonies.

So dang funny!  Amazing post!

  User Deleted
4/07/13 1:14:30 AM#49
Originally posted by Zapzap
Originally posted by jesteralways
 how many games before wow used ! to show POI or to show quest givers? .

Basically none.  AC2 used some quest markers and had some quest directed gameplay but nowhere near to the extent of WoW.  Not to mention no one played AC2.  WoW was the first quest directed MMO ...

Diablo 2 (released in 2000) is offended.

As far as 'WoW' being the first 'quest directed' MMO - I have no idea where you got that from. 

 

  Thupli

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4/07/13 1:17:12 AM#50
LOL! 
  Zapp_Brannigan

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4/07/13 7:33:12 AM#51

Created an account for the sole purpose of pointing out that the entirety of this thread is based on a quote that has been taken out of context. Full quote:

___

 

"I basically agree.

Stuff we do differently that we can talk about/show today (most shown here: http://youtu.be/sO6UxiQShQk) :

  • Combat much more active, more against lots of monsters than one-on-one

  • More strategic solo combat as well as more tactical

  • Paths: If you have a playstyle, we send more content your way for the kind of thing you like - Combat, Exploration, Building/Social, or Story/Collecting.

  • Layered content: We layer a ton of content in an area that is much richer than other games - you get calls on your cell phone, random events happen, time challenges occur, public events happen, etc. Complex to explain but it feels good/quite fun already.

  • We can change the terrain at runtime. New dungeons rumble out of the ground by finding discoveries, story elements can change the world/terrain either in a phase or in the persistent world.

And we will be talking about multiple unique features we haven't mentioned yet.

Carbine was formed by 20 or so of the seniors and leads of WoW after WoW launched. Their initial mantra was "we just crunched for 6 years, we want to do ANYTHING BUT WOW".

But at the end of the day we do what is fun, we're not trying to be different for differences' sake."

___

Note the bold. They're not saying 'we want to create a game that isn't like WoW in any way', they're stating, quite literally, that they want to make a game that isn't WoW. They'd spent 6 years working on one game and they were ready to move on to something else. That's all there is to it. Hell, the very next line he states "we're not tring to be different for differences' sake."

It annoys me how worked up people can get up over something that has been taken entirely out-of-context.

 

Edit: Further down in the Reddit thread, if anyone bothered to check source material:

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"Honestly we're not competing with WoW. If someone loves a game you can't pry them out of it. We want people who once played WoW, we're not trying to pull people out of it.

Here's a numbers trick of the industry. Good games churn like 3-5% of their subs a month. They gain hopefully more than that a month.

Roll the numbers and you find out that every 20 or so months as many players have left the game as are still playing it.

It's like the human body - every one of your cells is theoretically replaced every 7 years, so you're literally not the same body you were.

Anyways those numbers ignore recapture, etc. but the short form is that if there are a few million players currently in WoW in the US (I dunno) then there are probably 10 million players who once played. That's why you see 1-2 million folks trying out many of the new games and I don't believe WoW's numbers dip, but I don't work there so I don't know.

If your game is fun, there's good variance, lots of folks' friends play, and you work like hell on the elder game and support, those players stay and your game grows. If not it falls off and dies."

  Zapzap

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4/07/13 8:09:11 AM#52
Originally posted by Roxtarr
Originally posted by Zapzap
Originally posted by jesteralways
 how many games before wow used ! to show POI or to show quest givers? .

Basically none.  AC2 used some quest markers and had some quest directed gameplay but nowhere near to the extent of WoW.  Not to mention no one played AC2.  WoW was the first quest directed MMO ...

Diablo 2 (released in 2000) is offended.

 

As far as 'WoW' being the first 'quest directed' MMO - I have no idea where you got that from. 

 

If you had played MMOs prior to 2004 you might have an idea.  Before WoW level progression was by killing monstewrs not quests.  Many games had a few quests per level.  For example DAOC let you do a few task quests per level but almost the entire the leve (90-99% of your level)l was by grinding mobs.  WoW was the first MMO to have its leveling progression directed by quests from quest hub to quest hub with all leveling being done by quests which is what every MMO has copied since and yes they have copied WoW's quest markers.  AC2 used some quest directed but not to the extent of WoW and no one played the game. 

  Margulis

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4/08/13 3:38:38 AM#53

I've got to say, it really is funny watching people try so hard to convinve the masses against what is so plainly obvious - the game looks and seems very much like WOW.  Just stop with all the little intricate details of how this or that is different because of this or that  reason, or the "every mmo is all the same deep down" because of this or that reason.   Just stop.  Any 5 year old could see how similar the two games are, much more than most mmo's are similar to each other.  And while you may be able to convince yourselves of their vastly distinct differences, you likely aren't convincing anyone else. 

And having said all of that, it still is a game that looks fun and I will likely enjoy, even though I do think it's wow 2.0.  Minus the 40 man raids, at least for me, it sounds fun.  But I can like something, want to play something, and still not have to defend it with my life.  And I can say this game does indeed look like wow, and seem to be very similar to it, and still say I want to play it.

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