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General Discussion  » Is the sub fee + item shop keeping anyone away?

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  SaintPhilip

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6/18/12 9:23:30 PM#101
Originally posted by Soandsoso
Originally posted by SaintPhilip
Originally posted by nilden

Honestly I don't care about the money. $15 bucks a month is nothing, you could see a movie or take a cab or eat at mcdonalds and spend that. For an entire month of access to a game thats a bargain. Well depending on if you have any interest in playing the game.

The thing is I'm only going to sub to a max of 2 games at a time. So if I give up a game for another one and they both have subscriptions one gets replaced if something is better.

The only game I ever felt should never have had a sub fee was planetside which had every other FPS with no sub as competition.

As far as a cash shop goes it's more personal opinion than anything but I feel cosmetic items are a driving purpose in games. If you take away loot drops like special mounts, clothes, pets, etc from being able to get them in game by drops or quests and have them be cash shop only I think it hurts the game. It's like taking content out of the game just to make money on it.

A lot of the games now just charge sub and give you points every month to spend by being subbed anyway.

RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like cosmetic items, pets and such and want them to be PART of the Game (not optional with fees attached)

This is a slippery slope- What if you needed to pay for the top raid dungeons (because MOST people do not do the Top Raids)...This peicemeal gaming is moving in a bad direction.

Went from buying cosmetic to buying raid content...hyperbole much.

The only way I see someone having an issue is if they cannot show self control and choose to not to use the optional store.

Some need to figure out wants vs needs.

 

Its a game- There are no "needs" , its all about "wants".

I realize my argument is flawed comparing cosmetics to raids- I persnally enjoy both and want both included in my game. You dont see a slippery slope? I have been gaming since the early 1990s and even single player games these days are selling cosmetics and DLC. 

I have watched the transformation in gaming and know they are going to keep pushing until people quit paying. I quit paying. Most people are fine with it (but at some point may realize they are no longer fine once their playstyle becomes monitized)

  Soandsoso

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6/18/12 9:34:52 PM#102

I am gonna go out on a limb and say GW2 will follow the same route. Again, you have a choice to not use the store.

https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/Store.pl?dnv=9079193595&action=toggleCategory&category=4

 

There is a difference with the store items done by NCSoft/Funcom vs Perfect World. There is also the fact that PW doesn't charge you for the game, so they make no money unless people spend in the store. And if you are willing to spend money on a sub then use that money in the store only for the items you want. Its money you wouls have spent anyways.

 

The store items I see in games that have a box price and or sub are truly fluff items. No content will be blocked in TSW or GW2. People need to chill and take off the tinfoil hats.

 
  Derpybird

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6/18/12 9:49:11 PM#103

I just don't understand why they haven't revealed the cash shop with the release of the game being immanent.

They have stated "convenience" and "nice to have" items will be available, but these terms are so broad that they could include anything.

Funcom's most recent financial projections include an average of $5.25 a month per subscriber in cash shop purchases. This is what I find most problematic. You can already buy a ton of clothes from in-game currency, so what is it then?

Just show the store already and end the debate and/or concern.

"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  SaintPhilip

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6/18/12 9:52:00 PM#104

-Plus the fact that they are starting the game with both cash shop and sub... They can change or add anything at any time and the cash shop is already there.

  nilden

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6/18/12 10:20:06 PM#105
Originally posted by Soandsoso

These shops exist because it is proven that some will pay to get what they want instead of playing the game to get it.

 

Yes instead of playing the game people just pay money to get stuff.

Doesn't anyone else see the problem with that?

There was a time when you played the game to earn the items... honestly I would love it if they took all the items in the cash shop and put them in the game with quests and drops from bosses etc. Unless it's exp potions or more bag space or some other cooked up nickel and dime crap.

In short if your going to have a cash shop make every item in it obtainable ingame.

 

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  rdrakken

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6/18/12 10:20:27 PM#106
Originally posted by fldash

Just curious. I really want to play this, but since I've already purchased GW2 and it doesn't have a subscription fee, I find it incredibly hard to justify paying a subscription fee for any other game.

 Yes, I would not pay to be able to play a Funcom game with a year of its release even if GW2 was not coming out.

  bcbully

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6/18/12 10:33:20 PM#107
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by Soandsoso

These shops exist because it is proven that some will pay to get what they want instead of playing the game to get it.

 

Yes instead of playing the game people just pay money to get stuff.

Doesn't anyone else see the problem with that?

There was a time when you played the game to earn the items... honestly I would love it if they took all the items in the cash shop and put them in the game with quests and drops from bosses etc. Unless it's exp potions or more bag space or some other cooked up nickel and dime crap.

In short if your going to have a cash shop make every item in it obtainable ingame.

 

Normally yes I would. The thing is in TSW clothes=/= gear. In this modern world setting for some reason the line has been blurred between buying clothes and buying clothes. 

 

If there was a lack of in game clothing and the only way to make you character unique was to buy clothes from the cash shop, I think I would still have a problem. That's not the case though. Even with out the cash shop being open you still only see someone with the same outfit on about as much as you would IRL, once you get out of Solomon Island. 

 

For some strange reason, In all honesty I'd be more than happy to pay 99c to buy a shirt from a virtual walk in mall for a character that I've invested a lot of time in... idk It just doesn't seem the same as buying gear or gold.

  zyklonian

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6/18/12 10:38:08 PM#108

it drove me away from Lotro.  it started as a non intrusive and now its in every aspect of the game.

  tares

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6/18/12 10:49:32 PM#109

It doesn't make sense to have both without a free to play co-current model going too.  It really doesn't make sense when they expect 33% of revenues to come from the cash shop when there is no free to play model going.

This is what grinded my gears,  tailsman and weapon upgrades were readily available and were upgraded often. However, at the end of zone two open beta my toon looked the same as she did when I started the game.  I go to the shops faction areas and the stores have the same outfits from the toon creation options.  The suit was the only new options I saw and even that could have been in the toon creater.

My guess is all new clothes and styles will be put in the cash shop so my toon would always look the same if I decided to start one and play a million hours because clothes are very limited in the game, yet I'm sure will be more developed in the store.  Toon looks are important, remember all the swtor rage over gear that looked like trash bags, even after it was fixed so could make any gear have the same stats.

  aries623

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6/18/12 10:52:21 PM#110

I am anti item shop. I refuse to play any game that chooses to bleed its consumers of more than $14.99 a month.

  User Deleted
6/18/12 11:24:53 PM#111


Originally posted by Torvaldr
Not every business has the same business model.  I've been to theatres where I get an entire meal with the movie and theatres that are the standard mall fare where you pay for everything piece by piece (the movie, the beverage, snacks, etc).  But that isn't the only way to enjoy movies.  Now I can watch most movies on Netflix in my home.  I can rent movies on Vudu and am allowed to use my own snacks and drinks unlike the plastic mall theatres.  This is why many analogies suck and don't add much to the overall discussion.  They're woefully inadequate.

I don't have a metaphor or analogy, but more speaking from a more practical standpoint it comes down to total cost for the return on entertainment.  We all pay varying amounts for our various forms of entertainment.  So the question really comes down to: is the game worth the total cost?  That answer is subjective for each game, and each person considering that game.

For you the game is easily worth that for a period of time.  For me no game (not even my favorites) deliver enough for me to want to pay mulitple ways (recurring fee, one off fees, and additional piece meal fees).  Like I said above, at this point, I'm only really willing to pay one (or maybe a combo of two) ways at this time.  I'm fickle though and that's subject to change on a whim.


I hear ya. Analogies are fun sometimes but thats about it heh. I loathe cash shops. But as always, I choose to play games on a case by case basis. In this case, I am willing to look past the cash shop because of the setting of all things. After playing TSW, I realized I need a break from games with castles and dragons and all the baggage that comes with them.

Funcom is going to alienate a lot of people because of the triple dip. Sucks because there are a few people I would have liked to play this game with that wont be buying because of it.


  bcbully

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6/18/12 11:35:27 PM#112
Originally posted by tares

It doesn't make sense to have both without a free to play co-current model going too.  It really doesn't make sense when they expect 33% of revenues to come from the cash shop when there is no free to play model going.

This is what grinded my gears,  tailsman and weapon upgrades were readily available and were upgraded often. However, at the end of zone two open beta my toon looked the same as she did when I started the game.  I go to the shops faction areas and the stores have the same outfits from the toon creation options.  The suit was the only new options I saw and even that could have been in the toon creater.

My guess is all new clothes and styles will be put in the cash shop so my toon would always look the same if I decided to start one and play a million hours because clothes are very limited in the game, yet I'm sure will be more developed in the store.  Toon looks are important, remember all the swtor rage over gear that looked like trash bags, even after it was fixed so could make any gear have the same stats.

There are several hundred articles of clothing in character creation of which you get to pick 5. If it is as you say (I haven't found all of them, the are not all in london) and all several hundred are in game, I can't see how that's a bad thing. 

 

Why didn't you buy some?

  aesperus

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6/18/12 11:40:22 PM#113

The simple answer is 'yes'.

No game should ever have a subscription model AND a cashshop. It just screams nickle & diming. If you are paying for a service, you should get full access to that service. I'm kinda with the people that would've preferred this game as a single-player game with multiplayer features. I'm not sure what they were thinking when they decided to go w/ this business model. I really do think it's going to end up hurting the game in the long run.

  zyklonian

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6/18/12 11:43:01 PM#114

eventually the game quality will suffer. updates fixing bugs and adding content will be less frequent but there will be weekly updates in their store. give it 3-6 months before there are stat bonuses or gear or potions that increase the speed of learing/mastering abilities.  this is all just a theory though, funcom could surprize us all and stick to their guns about a cosmedic only shop but then again this is funcom and all other cash shop games eventually turn their game into a pay to win state.

  Phry

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6/18/12 11:53:09 PM#115
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by tares

It doesn't make sense to have both without a free to play co-current model going too.  It really doesn't make sense when they expect 33% of revenues to come from the cash shop when there is no free to play model going.

This is what grinded my gears,  tailsman and weapon upgrades were readily available and were upgraded often. However, at the end of zone two open beta my toon looked the same as she did when I started the game.  I go to the shops faction areas and the stores have the same outfits from the toon creation options.  The suit was the only new options I saw and even that could have been in the toon creater.

My guess is all new clothes and styles will be put in the cash shop so my toon would always look the same if I decided to start one and play a million hours because clothes are very limited in the game, yet I'm sure will be more developed in the store.  Toon looks are important, remember all the swtor rage over gear that looked like trash bags, even after it was fixed so could make any gear have the same stats.

There are several hundred articles of clothing in character creation of which you get to pick 5. If it is as you say (I haven't found all of them, the are not all in london) and all several hundred are in game, I can't see how that's a bad thing. 

 

Why didn't you buy some?

Weird, how your toon looks is decided in creation pretty much, and it has a hell of a lot more customisation than most other games out there, which does mean takes a bit of a while to create the look you want for your toon. Basically you get to have your 'originality' from the get go, and thats pretty much how i would expect it to stay, barring changes in weaponry etc.. i would be very surprised to see people in game looking alike.. unless it was a bunch of friends etc, that had chosen to do so deliberately.

Personally i think that degree of originality in the character creation is one of the games strong points

  doragon86

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6/18/12 11:59:29 PM#116

The main think that's keeping me away is past experiences with Funcom. The second thing would be the subscription fee and item shop. It's either one or the other, I won't except both. On top of that, I don't believe the game in it's current state merits a subscription fee. 

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  Panthien

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6/19/12 12:07:39 AM#117
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by Soandsoso
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by Soandsoso

If you don't like the item mall then don't use it. Its not mandatory. I really don't see the issue here.

Yea don't use it and look like a clone next to everyone else in game clothing wise.  There are like 4 jackets in game right now each in 6 or so colors and that's it.  I have never seen or heard of a single clothing item you can craft or one that drops off mobs.  As far as I can tell everything that affects your appearance is in the cash shop.

Maybe that will change by launch and maybe it won't.

They didn't add them to the beta as it would be just be bloat at this point and time. Atm they have the basics so people can beta test, find the bugs and such so they can fix them.

Its obvious that that wasn't why you played.

I have played and never once saw someone that looked like me and that was with the limited options.

 

Do you know that's the reason appearance gear isn't droping or are you assuming that's the reason?

Actually it does drop, ontop of that there are several locations where NPCs sell cosmetic clothes for the same currency you get from mobs and question and.. some quests DO reward cosmetic gear.

It makes perfect sense you wont have every single cosmetic piece of clothes to chose from, that and.. hardly any mmo even lets you chose a look at creation.

 

  Omali

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6/19/12 12:18:11 AM#118
Originally posted by Rightlov
Originally posted by fldash

Just curious. I really want to play this, but since I've already purchased GW2 and it doesn't have a subscription fee, I find it incredibly hard to justify paying a subscription fee for any other game. I would consider one that was perhaps half the cost of the traditional $15, but with a item shop, it really rubs me the wrong way...

The Secret World is targetting a small niche segment. They'll have a core fanbase that will enjoy the hell out of the game!

What do you consider a small niche? I'm just curious because in their financial statements Funcom projects its anticipated launch of The Secret World to contain 30% more initial sales than Age of Conan and a retention of 490,000 subscribers. 

  Grahor

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6/19/12 12:27:28 AM#119

The model keeps me away, that's for certain. I'm perfectly okay with cosmetic shop, but sub - I'm through with subscription model. It makes the devs to artificially "slow down" the game, so that people had to play for months, turning the process of gameplay into chore. No thank you, I'm through with pay-to-play.

  Loke666

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6/19/12 12:30:07 AM#120

Yeah, it is keeping me away. I pay monthly fees so I wont have to deal with item shops.

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