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  Istavaan

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6/11/12 6:59:15 AM#61
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan

Well it's not really arena-net's fault if some of you suffer from motion sickness.

No it is not but then again if you read properly OP had this problem only with GW2. I don't have motion sickness and even i felt a little dizzy after my last intense play session at WVW. The camera view certainly needs fixing, as it stands motion sickness or not you sitll might end up putting too much strain on your eyes especially during PVP.

intense wvw is the keyword there...wvw is crazy and if played for long peroids it is going to take its toll on you physically

DE's are also quite intense just that i happen to spend more time in WvW. Ignoring this issue and blaming it on players 'motion sickness' isn't solution.

if you try and solve every problem that players experience you'll never have a released product.

  Chrome1980

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6/11/12 7:01:18 AM#62
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan

Well it's not really arena-net's fault if some of you suffer from motion sickness.

No it is not but then again if you read properly OP had this problem only with GW2. I don't have motion sickness and even i felt a little dizzy after my last intense play session at WVW. The camera view certainly needs fixing, as it stands motion sickness or not you sitll might end up putting too much strain on your eyes especially during PVP.

intense wvw is the keyword there...wvw is crazy and if played for long peroids it is going to take its toll on you physically

DE's are also quite intense just that i happen to spend more time in WvW. Ignoring this issue and blaming it on players 'motion sickness' isn't solution.

if you try and solve every problem that players experience you'll never have a released product.

I don't think fixing a camera view to bring it up to par with our usual MMO standard would delay the release of product.

  Istavaan

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6/11/12 7:03:39 AM#63
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan

Well it's not really arena-net's fault if some of you suffer from motion sickness.

No it is not but then again if you read properly OP had this problem only with GW2. I don't have motion sickness and even i felt a little dizzy after my last intense play session at WVW. The camera view certainly needs fixing, as it stands motion sickness or not you sitll might end up putting too much strain on your eyes especially during PVP.

intense wvw is the keyword there...wvw is crazy and if played for long peroids it is going to take its toll on you physically

DE's are also quite intense just that i happen to spend more time in WvW. Ignoring this issue and blaming it on players 'motion sickness' isn't solution.

if you try and solve every problem that players experience you'll never have a released product.

I don't think fixing a camera view to bring it up to par with our usual MMO standard would delay the release of product.


well i didn't notice any problem with the camera view. It's no different to any other MMO.

  elocke

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6/11/12 7:04:37 AM#64

Interesting.  I didn't have this issue at all and I usually notice this type of thing.  Hmm...hope they don't mess up my experience by fixing this for those who had an issue.  Lol, that would suck make one player puke, put a fix in just to have a different one puke due to the change.

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  Chrome1980

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6/11/12 7:05:47 AM#65
Originally posted by Istavaan
well i didn't notice any problem with the camera view.

I didn't too till i went back to Rift and EQ2. I would love to have more zoomed out view for sure.

  Amjoco

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6/11/12 7:09:03 AM#66
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan

Well it's not really arena-net's fault if some of you suffer from motion sickness.

No it is not but then again if you read properly OP had this problem only with GW2. I don't have motion sickness and even i felt a little dizzy after my last intense play session at WVW. The camera view certainly needs fixing, as it stands motion sickness or not you sitll might end up putting too much strain on your eyes especially during PVP.

intense wvw is the keyword there...wvw is crazy and if played for long peroids it is going to take its toll on you physically

DE's are also quite intense just that i happen to spend more time in WvW. Ignoring this issue and blaming it on players 'motion sickness' isn't solution.

if you try and solve every problem that players experience you'll never have a released product.

I don't think fixing a camera view to bring it up to par with our usual MMO standard would delay the release of product.


well i didn't notice any problem with the camera view.

I also haven't noticed it. In fact after reading this topic I went back on and played just to try and understand how it could make a player sick. I suppose if you are sesitive to motions then I can possibly understand it, but personally couldn't see it. And I apologize to those that I may have upset in my initial post for being less than forgiving of others viewing problems. I play on a 32" monitor and it may not effect those with larger screens. 

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  ThorHal

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6/11/12 7:13:49 AM#67

I first noticed that I have this condition while trying to play Kingdoms of Amalur, I could play it 20 mins tops on a single session, it just made me feel sick.

 

I've played GW2 on both the BWE and have not noticed it to be that bad, I felt mildly irritated at times especially in not open places like dungeons. I hope they fix it, but so far it won't stop me from playing it if they don't.

  Kykyryz-a

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6/11/12 7:21:54 AM#68

First of all  you all know you shouldnt play Games in 18h sesions :)    45 min playing 15 resting hehe :)))

I didnt noticed it also also was on 24 inch display onky  reason i can guess is  no food no water and game all 2 days  can cause it :))) 

in all seriousness   i'd like to be able to zoom out a bit more, but again after 2 days used to it  and   some events  with huge Bosses or events zoomed you out a lot  so had feeling of somethg special :)  

  Seilan

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6/11/12 7:35:45 AM#69
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by helthros Trolling is also against the RoC, so I guess we're tied.

You have labeled it a troll. I wasn't trolling and I don't. You can look at my history and see that. Before labeling someone do that in the future. My concerns were that this was another random attack at GW2 and mmorpgs in general. Follow the thread and you will see that.

Believe what you want, but your original post in this thread qualifies as a troll post. Ask the mods yourself.

Also, your "concerns" were invalidated the second you clicked on this thread and read the first line, assuming you actually took the two seconds to read it of course. Instead, you chose to try and start drama, ironically while acting as though it was the OPs own intention, which it clearly wasn't. 

In any case, I've stated my piece, so I'll let you have the last word as I'm sure this will never end otherwise. 

 

 

Edit - for unnecessary parts.

 

 

  strangepowers

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6/11/12 7:51:24 AM#70

Nope, I take regular breaks, play in a well lit room, and I don't use an obscenely large monitor.

Hope it works out for you guys though.

And yes, in the vein of this site, the OP's title is attention grabbing in the wrong way by being misleading and melodramatic.

I mean you could of titled it something along the lines of "FOV issues causing dizziness"... but you went straight for the Jerry Springer tactic.

Edit:Typo

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  Amjoco

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6/11/12 8:03:34 AM#71
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
In any case, I've stated my piece, so I'll let you have the last word as I'm sure this will never end otherwise. 

Word of advice for the future - read and understand the thread you're replying to before needlessly going on the offensive.

 

edit: forget it

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  Ice-Queen

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6/11/12 8:13:49 AM#72

I get the feeling that If I could zoom my character out a little bit further, it would be better. I found myself trying to zoom out farther, often and couldn't.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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  User Deleted
6/11/12 9:11:51 AM#73

It is officially called " Simulator Sickness " it is a very real medical condition.

Following is taken from the wiki on FPS..

The amount an object moves between frames physically on screen is now of such a magnitude that objects and backgrounds can no longer be classed as "clear". Letters cannot be read and looking at vertical objects like trees and lamp posts while the camera is panning sideways have even been known to cause headaches. The actual amount of motion blur needed to make 24 frames per second smooth eliminates every remnant of detail from the frames. Where adding the right amount of motion blur eliminates the uncomfortable side effects, it is more than often simply not done. It requires extra processing to turn the extra frames of a 120 FPS source (which is the current recording "standard"[citation needed]) into adequate motion blur for a 24 FPS target. It would also potentially remove the detail and clarity of background advertising.

They are also finding out 3D Tv's and monitors are causing a massive headache syndrome.

 

A last thing to remember is too much caffine can give you headaches and during beta weekends many of us are mainlining caffine to max our play time.

  User Deleted
6/11/12 9:21:02 AM#74

I'm not sure the POV really bothered me, but the craziness of keep door breaking definitely gave me a headache.

  Ginaz

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6/11/12 10:19:36 PM#75
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Istavaan

Well it's not really arena-net's fault if some of you suffer from motion sickness.

No it is not but then again if you read properly OP had this problem only with GW2. I don't have motion sickness and even i felt a little dizzy after my last intense play session at WVW. The camera view certainly needs fixing, as it stands motion sickness or not you sitll might end up putting too much strain on your eyes especially during PVP.

intense wvw is the keyword there...wvw is crazy and if played for long peroids it is going to take its toll on you physically

DE's are also quite intense just that i happen to spend more time in WvW. Ignoring this issue and blaming it on players 'motion sickness' isn't solution.

if you try and solve every problem that players experience you'll never have a released product.

I don't think fixing a camera view to bring it up to par with our usual MMO standard would delay the release of product.


well i didn't notice any problem with the camera view.

I also haven't noticed it. In fact after reading this topic I went back on and played just to try and understand how it could make a player sick. I suppose if you are sesitive to motions then I can possibly understand it, but personally couldn't see it. And I apologize to those that I may have upset in my initial post for being less than forgiving of others viewing problems. I play on a 32" monitor and it may not effect those with larger screens. 

Half assed apology is still half assed.

As for the camera, I didn't have motion sickness but I didn't like how short a distance you could draw the camera back.

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  Kaledus

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6/11/12 10:33:14 PM#76

God.. And here I was thinking that the Nintendo 3DS was a major culprit of causing headaches or nausea.. I guess the lack of FPS players here might be a factor for not being used to such quick fovs.. xD

  Uhwop

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6/11/12 10:49:16 PM#77

Not to belittle anyone, but I lose complete controll over one half of my body after playing any MMO for a short period of time.  Give me a couple of hours moving a mouse around and pressing keys on a keyboard, and I end up looking like I'm having a convulsion, severe nerve pain, difficulty seeing, my right ear may stop working, and I'll end up with a migraine that I can't get rid of.

I think I'd be grateful if my only problem was a little bit of motion sickness.  You can always take a break and come back to the game, I have to spend the remainder of my day laying down; pecking away at a keyboard to pass the time.

 

Now I say this with the very utmost of sincerity and care, be grateful if that's the only thing you have to worry about. 

 

Take breaks; you may actually adjust to it.  You can even try some over the counter motion sickness pills.  Or, and I know it's controvertial, there is a certian plant that you can burn and inhale that is used to calm nausia, and it really does work.

Good luck, and I hope it doesn't prevent you from enjoying the game.

  loulaki

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6/12/12 2:40:55 AM#78
Originally posted by Ulorik

Great game, sorry about the title.

However, and a lot of people have commented about this..something with the Field of View (FoV), the Camera distance and the Camera acceleration is just not right.

I personally feel a bit sick and starting to get a headache after a short while of playing, and others feel the same. It is most likely due to the very narrow FoV (about 60 degree) and the closeness of the camera to the character, even when fully scrolled back. I'm running around with tunnel vision and the abruptness of the camera combined is causing a kind of motion sickness.

After playing yesterday I logged back into my Rift account and, boy what a difference! I could actually feel my eyes relaxing, was able to enjoy the vistas in the game, and generally had a comfortable feel with he game, like with most other MMO's.

 

I sincerely hope Anet are going to fix this, by giving people the choice to create a wider FoV and scroll back further, otherwise I won't be able to play a game that actually leaves me feeling a bit sick.

well that was a problem for me at BWE1, this time i noticed at the settings a sensitivity bar for the camera, it the difference was major ..!

  Sameer1979

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6/12/12 2:53:31 AM#79
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by alacres
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by helthros
 

To the OP - Do you wear glasses? Might be a lacking vision thing.

Read the entire thing! :) I do apologize somewhat, not completely, but it just gets ridiculous with the stuff people come up with! One thing after another. Everyone did it with Tera as well. For the love of all that is good come on you guys. I understand the point of discussion but please, if  it makes you sick then you shouldn't be playing video games.

That makes no sense. A FoV issue causing nausea and headaches is not trivial or "ridiculous" by any means - and he's not the only one who is bothered by it.  He's also already clarified that he doesn't get sick like that playing other games, so the problem seems to lie with this game itself.

It's a simple fix to a major problem for some people, so why condescend to him for voicing a valid concern?

 

Settle down I said I appologize. Move along now and try upsetting someone else, it's not going to happen with me.  Thank you for policing this thread though you earned your Sheriffs badge.  Have a nice day Sir.

Your half-assed apology has been noted, as well as your weak attempt to save face after making a fool of yourself.

Maybe next time you can actually act your "half a century" age and keep your pointless troll comments to yourself.

:)

 

Hear, hear.

Yeah i was gonna say something too, but i think alacres put him in his right place. Unbelievable how some people can be so self centered. The only thing he cares about is defending GW2 even though OP's condition is quote common and sometimes quite serious.

All Anet has to do is give an option to zoom out more.

  exanimo

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6/12/12 3:39:46 AM#80

didnt make me puke , but made some of my guildies motion sick.

it defentaly needs to zoom out more , i think it would be awsome something like anarchy online where you could zoom out until you see you char as small as a red dot !

and also i would love to have first person view like we have in gw1 !

love that feeling when exploring.

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