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  kingotnw

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OP  6/05/12 1:42:01 PM#1

TESO just had a fairly large demonstration on SpikeTV. I would imagine it will either be available online somewhere, or on ondemand in the near future.

  Uhwop

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6/05/12 1:51:16 PM#2

And....

Did you watch it?

What are your thoughts?

  Ikeda

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6/05/12 2:05:20 PM#3

See the discussion begun:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5041096/ESO-news.html#5041096

Daddydazzle reports they will update.

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  Filbur

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6/05/12 2:24:06 PM#4
  Uhwop

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6/05/12 2:27:18 PM#5

WoW!

Literally.

It looks like WoW.  Amazingly original look they got going there.  My god.

  deathshroud

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6/05/12 2:33:26 PM#6

the guy from zenimax looked like he could of burst into tears at any moment.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Uhwop

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6/05/12 2:48:46 PM#7

His exact words were, and this was inregards to the question, "how to you classify the art style internally."

"Well, first off it's going to allow 200 players in the game at the same time. Uhm, you know, fighting battles, these huge epic battles."

It was, like a lot of his other answers to questions, a non-answer.

Q: What can we expect on the innovative front?

A: Removal of a lot of the interface to try and make the combat "feel" more real time based and reactionary, you'll be blocking and using stamina. 

 

The art style looks a lot more like WoW then I would have expected from the screenshots they've shown.  Buildings and some of the character models have that cartoonish, exagerated look that you would expect to see while playing WoW.  ToR actually looks much more original in the art style then ESO does.

 

Edit: wrong thread.

  dronfwar

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1+1=1
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6/05/12 2:51:25 PM#8

I only buy if I can mount a dragon and fly over Tamriel.

  Searias

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6/05/12 5:29:39 PM#9

Wow, the game looks pretty.

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  ShakyMo

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6/05/12 5:37:38 PM#10
Originally posted by Uhwop

WoW!

Literally.

It looks like WoW.  Amazingly original look they got going there.  My god.

no it didnt

it looked like GUILD WARS TWO

  Elikal

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6/05/12 7:23:02 PM#11

As usual the questions were too harmless. I dunno, are all game moderators paid or drugged? Ever so often when I seen a video interview with some game dev, I felt I wanted to jump out of my seat and wished *I* was there asking questions! They never ask hard and important questions! (And this mod clearly needs a haircut...)

Anywhoo... on the one hand everything this Zenimax dude says here and in other interviews is horrible PR bla bla. For a game that is 5 years in development, his info is really close to zero. So they want to make the game accessible. Yes. What the moderator SHOULD have asked: What EXACTLY does that mean, as opposed to other MMOs? What will you make different? Those zombie/sheep moderators drive me nuts. I mean, heck, we all know some hallmarks of what makes a MMO. Would it be so difficult to ask some substantial questions, and NOT let the Zenimax Dev wiggle itself out by hogwash no-info answers?!

On the other hand, the visuals in the vid don't look as bad as some early leaked screenshots. I mean, ok it's not Skyrim quality, but then, no one could expect that. What made me cringe is that some stuff looks too much like from SWTOR, especially some landscape elements. (Oh seriously if you think it looks like WOW you need glasses. No NOT those to drink from. Those for the eyes!) The dungeons looked quite good IMO, actually.

Skeptical, but sure to give it a fair chance when I can try it out.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Quenchster

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6/05/12 10:40:25 PM#12
Originally posted by mmprime

SPIKE TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1R5R_9Huac

I wonder how their questing system will work. In that video the guy said that you can wander the world and that quests sometimes come to you, but doesn't that mean that they are going with the old MMORPG quest hub style? I'm fine with quest hubs. The issue with them though is that usually what I do in an MMO is grab all the quests then stick to doing everything that my log tells me to do instead of going out and exploring.

  Mike-McQueen

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6/05/12 11:02:53 PM#13
I don't mind the art. It was pretty enough with just enough elder scrolls in it to appease my standards for this game. I like the idea of less UI though. That was my biggest peeve with rift that I spent all my time watching the action bar and cool downs and never the beautiful game. Razer naga has helped ease some of that with these games but still. I get the feeling though that there just isn't a lot of innovation behind the gameplay and being that I already hate that it's not a FPS, they really need to make it up to me in this department. Time will tell I guess but I'm not holding my breath.

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  KhinRunite

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6/05/12 11:16:20 PM#14

I can see how people see WoW in this video. Its palette is more on the colorful/saturated side. Polygons used for buildings aren't as detailed as Skyrim (to which ESO gfx is widely compared). Character/armor models are a bit on the cartoony side. Overall it's more cartoony than realistic.

Regardless of all that the game still looks beautiful though. I hope it will feel alive and immersive and not at all static.

  observer

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6/06/12 1:10:17 AM#15

I can't believe it's been 5+ years in the making.  It's probably way too late for them to change the direction of the game, from themepark to sandbox.

  SEANMCAD

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6/06/12 8:16:57 AM#16

I watched with the audio off so let me take a guess. During the Q and A session his answer to every question was 'no'.

 

The graphics are actually nice but to be honest the graphics never were the deal breaker for me. The 3rd person view is the biggest deal breaker for me , followed by a class based system.

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  lizardbones

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6/06/12 9:05:50 AM#17


Originally posted by KhinRunite
I can see how people see WoW in this video. Its palette is more on the colorful/saturated side. Polygons used for buildings aren't as detailed as Skyrim (to which ESO gfx is widely compared). Character/armor models are a bit on the cartoony side. Overall it's more cartoony than realistic.

Regardless of all that the game still looks beautiful though. I hope it will feel alive and immersive and not at all static.




I think this is a problem with game play videos in general. They really don't give you a good feel for how the game play actually is. It could be substantially different from WoW, but in a game play video, it just looks like WoW. Of course, it could also play just like WoW. Game play videos don't seem to give you the ability to tell the difference.

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  SEANMCAD

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6/06/12 9:17:41 AM#18
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by KhinRunite
I can see how people see WoW in this video. Its palette is more on the colorful/saturated side. Polygons used for buildings aren't as detailed as Skyrim (to which ESO gfx is widely compared). Character/armor models are a bit on the cartoony side. Overall it's more cartoony than realistic.

 

Regardless of all that the game still looks beautiful though. I hope it will feel alive and immersive and not at all static.




I think this is a problem with game play videos in general. They really don't give you a good feel for how the game play actually is. It could be substantially different from WoW, but in a game play video, it just looks like WoW. Of course, it could also play just like WoW. Game play videos don't seem to give you the ability to tell the difference.

 

I clearly dont speak for all TES fans but I think in general the graphics is fairly far down the list of concerns/deal breakers.

yes the first screens made us think of WoW mostly because of the character/NPC models. That all said, its still a class based, 3rd person, tab targeting, faction dependent generally lagard game design with a company that has zero idea what is possible, that is the main issue

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  BigCountry

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6/06/12 9:21:20 AM#19
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I clearly dont speak for all TES fans but I think in general the graphics is fairly far down the list of concerns/deal breakers.

yes the first screens made us think of WoW mostly because of the character/NPC models. That all said, its still a class based, 3rd person, tab targeting, faction dependent generally lagard game design with a company that has zero idea what is possible, that is the main issue

 

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  deathshroud

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6/06/12 2:21:34 PM#20
Originally posted by BigCountry
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I clearly dont speak for all TES fans but I think in general the graphics is fairly far down the list of concerns/deal breakers.

yes the first screens made us think of WoW mostly because of the character/NPC models. That all said, its still a class based, 3rd person, tab targeting, faction dependent generally lagard game design with a company that has zero idea what is possible, that is the main issue

 

QFT

 i think the biggest disapointment is in the hearts of those who have folllowed TES for such a long time. I think we all dreamed of what it would be like to play an Elder Scrolls MMO how we would do it, what aspects would translate easily and what might need alteration. How much fun TES would be if you werent alone in this amazing world.

When they released details of TESO it was the realisation that this MMO was nothing like the imagined MMO of TES fans. It is compeltely the opposite to it infact. Sandbox gameplay best fits TES world. If the original TES had been dungeon crawler hack and slash games then this new TESO game would of fit the formula nicely but TES wasnt that sort of game at all.

Its almost as bad as turning an eagerly awiated franchise like XCOM into a first person shooter. Its a retarded move by bethesda and whilst both this Themepark mmo and the FPS xcom game could of been good games for the new fans that enjoy that type of gameplay. The people who played the original games and supported them from one game to another feel let down, betrayed and unloved. This is not TESO the fans wanted and feels like a slap in the face.

 

so lets not forget that XCOM was also bethesda and with enough complaining from gamers they quickly scrapped it and remade XCOM with the support of the civilisation team to turn it back into a strategy game. I beleive enoguh complaining and maybe they will turn TESO back into something gamers actually want to play.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

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