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  Istavaan

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6/05/12 2:58:05 PM#21
Originally posted by Ikeda

No, the DIRECT quote was 200 people ONLINE at one time.  Period.  Let them come back and say they made a mistake.  

^This

  Eladi

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6/05/12 2:58:21 PM#22

No way im going to buy ESO before I got to play a 14day min trial.. this screams swtor all over again,hyper instance,hyper dumb down class gameplay

 

 

btw..gota love paid interviews ..or atleast letssuck up to the developer onces..:P

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-the-elder/731255

  Uhwop

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6/05/12 3:02:15 PM#23

His exact words were, and this was inregards to the question, "how to you classify the art style internally."

"Well, first off it's going to allow 200 players in the game at the same time. Uhm, you know, fighting battles, these huge epic battles."

It was, like a lot of his other answers to questions, a non-answer.

Q: What can we expect on the innovative front?

A: Removal of a lot of the interface to try and make the combat "feel" more real time based and reactionary, you'll be blocking and using stamina.

 

The art style looks a lot more like WoW then I would have expected from the screenshots they've shown. Buildings and some of the character models have that cartoonish, exagerated look that you would expect to see while playing WoW. ToR actually looks much more original in the art style then ESO does.

  Coldren

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Joined: 3/19/08
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6/05/12 3:05:34 PM#24

E3 Interview, not certain if it's in that main link:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-the-elder/731254

 

[Edit]

Same thing that was in the previous link, but it's stand-alone the ESO interview.

 

 

  Slampig

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Whatever you do, do NOT speak ill of Asheron's Call 2...

6/05/12 3:07:07 PM#25
Originally posted by BigCountry

so 200 players per zone basically. i can live with that I guess. you can always enhance/build in that later on if you have enough brain power in your dev team

How do you get 200 per zone from 200 on screen? There could be 1000 standing behind you but you are only seeing 200.

You never know. Until you do.

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  Istavaan

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6/05/12 3:07:22 PM#26

very low res textures on the khajiit fur.

  Ikeda

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Posts: 1951

6/05/12 3:19:13 PM#27
Originally posted by Slampig
Originally posted by BigCountry

so 200 players per zone basically. i can live with that I guess. you can always enhance/build in that later on if you have enough brain power in your dev team

How do you get 200 per zone from 200 on screen? There could be 1000 standing behind you but you are only seeing 200.

You never know. Until you do.

This is how rumors start.  LISTEN to the damned commentary before you speak.  They never ONCE said ON SCREEN.  They said IN GAME.

 

Jesus, this is frustrating because you people are injecting your own opinions.  Let them come back and say what they ment.  If they misspoke let them come out and twitter about it (isn't that what those techy hipsters do to be cool after all).  As of right now, they said 200 IN GAME.  That's IN...... GAME.  Which is what ToR allows with an instance.  200 people.

  DeniZg

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Joined: 1/29/12
Posts: 489

6/05/12 3:46:33 PM#28

Art style looks a lot like updated WoW, which is not bad in my book.

Some gameplay features like WvW and "questgivers coming to you" sound a lot like GW2. Again, not bad.

However, the scenery looks very static, very much like SWTOR, probably due to sharing the same engine.

In the end, even if they manage to successfully implement all the usual MMO  features, would people pay monthly sub based on TES IP only, when they can play GW2 for free?

  NaughtyP

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 795

6/05/12 3:47:41 PM#29

I never thought I'd be less excited for a game that I thought I would be excited about. It's like your parents promising you that you will get to see an elephant the following day, only to find out they meant you are going to the library to take out Babar books.

Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  AdamTM

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Joined: 5/05/05
Posts: 1395

I'M PUNCHING YOUR SALAD!!!!

6/05/12 3:48:14 PM#30
Originally posted by Istavaan

very low res textures on the khajiit fur.

lower than skyrim?

shitballs thats almost 1999 textures then...

  DarkPony

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Confident, cocky, lazy, dead.

6/05/12 4:01:20 PM#31
Originally posted by Ikeda

No, the DIRECT quote was 200 people ONLINE at one time.  Period.  Let them come back and say they made a mistake.  

In the context it was pretty obvious he was talking about the artwork and graphics and that it needs to be optimized somewhat to allow for many (200) players fighting battles.

And who knows? Despite all the shocking "mmorpgified elderscrolls" compromises this game might yet turn out to be good:

- three factions

- non-linear experience

- large seamless world

- open world dungeons

- the possibility of large scale world pvp

Hmm ...

If they announce pvp servers (maybe they already have, not sure) and get the mechanics right (no artificial no-go areas, no one-shotting town guards, incentives to kill enemies in the world, etc.) it might yet become my cup of tea. Maybe not the sandbox I am looking for but it could be a compelling, fun game nonetheless.

Methinks we shouldn't condemn it yet but have a little patience for more info and hands-on reports.

  Fadedbomb

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Joined: 5/19/06
Posts: 2149

6/05/12 4:18:48 PM#32
Originally posted by xmenty

The game looks not bad graphically and

the gameplay sound more toward GW2.

I hope its a B2P lol.

In-game footage is at 2:36:00
 

Thanks for showing me that video xmenty.

 

That artstyle is SWTOR meets RIFT meets Everquest. Not interested, AT ALL :|.

 

It just seems like their budget for armor/character models was like 0.5% of their total budget. I can't even immerse myself in an artstyle like that.

Now, that's not saying that "graphics" is everything, but similarly I CAN immerse myself in a game like Minecraft because it "fits" its poor graphics & artstyle.

ESO? Not a damn chance should it EVER look like RIFT, sorry :/.

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  Fadedbomb

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6/05/12 4:20:37 PM#33
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by Ikeda

No, the DIRECT quote was 200 people ONLINE at one time.  Period.  Let them come back and say they made a mistake.  

In the context it was pretty obvious he was talking about the artwork and graphics and that it needs to be optimized somewhat to allow for many (200) players fighting battles.

And who knows? Despite all the shocking "mmorpgified elderscrolls" compromises this game might yet turn out to be good:

- three factions

- non-linear experience

- large seamless world

- open world dungeons

- the possibility of large scale world pvp

Hmm ...

If they announce pvp servers (maybe they already have, not sure) and get the mechanics right (no artificial no-go areas, no one-shotting town guards, incentives to kill enemies in the world, etc.) it might yet become my cup of tea. Maybe not the sandbox I am looking for but it could be a compelling, fun game nonetheless.

Methinks we shouldn't condemn it yet but have a little patience for more info and hands-on reports.

People said the same thing about SWTOR, and look how that turned out. Additionally, we don't have any REAL information on how "Seamless" the world is, how factions are actually setup to interact, and how really "Open" dungeons are.

I've seen all of this wordplay before, and it turned out to be an abuse of the English language. 

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  Kuppa

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The problem with censorship is ********

6/05/12 4:23:22 PM#34

The more I hear from this game the more I think its going to be like GW1. Very instanced and single player like. Given that, I have to say I LOVED GW1. But it was mainly for its pvp, we'll see how things go with TESO.


  Gorwe

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6/05/12 5:23:26 PM#35
(about Pony's optimism)

Bioware fooled you once with TOR. I remember even now how you and Elikal used to make it look, you know, good. Don't fall for that again. "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on us" eh(Warhammer wisdom lol)?

(concerning TES:O)

Well that dev certainly knew his TES lore. Too bad he didn't actually name Redguard Isles(Yokudan Isles). I also Like approach to gameplay and lore: if it wasn't right to lore, gtfo was what he said basically(if only Mythic followed this common Sense bit). Game looks OK I guess. But I'll keep a good amount of Warhammer stance towards TES:O(as I do towards almost every MMO, with exception of GW 2 and potentially NC titles). After all, what's wrong with doubt?
  ShakyMo

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6/05/12 5:25:58 PM#36

the 200 is a figure they used for the RVR province of cyrodil

e.g.  "you can have battles with over 200 players"

 

Its not some sort of hard cap or anything.

  Kuppa

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6/05/12 5:39:12 PM#37
Originally posted by Gorwe
(about Pony's optimism)

Bioware fooled you once with TOR. I remember even now how you and Elikal used to make it look, you know, good. Don't fall for that again. "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on us" eh(Warhammer wisdom lol)?


(concerning TES:O)

Well that dev certainly knew his TES lore. Too bad he didn't actually name Redguard Isles(Yokudan Isles). I also Like approach to gameplay and lore: if it wasn't right to lore, gtfo was what he said basically(if only Mythic followed this common Sense bit). Game looks OK I guess. But I'll keep a good amount of Warhammer stance towards TES:O(as I do towards almost every MMO, with exception of GW 2 and potentially NC titles). After all, what's wrong with doubt?

Lol unfortunately I remember that also. And I never knew what happened to another poster MMO.Maverick. He was the most abbid and informative TOR poster around here. A month into TOR he dissapeared....


  Gorwe

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6/05/12 5:55:48 PM#38
Yeah what happened to Mav? Anybody knows?

He had good, interesting posts and was one of those MMORPG.com elders(alongside Pony, Elikal and Loke).

Anyways I am curious about TES:O. I am NOT one of those guys who thought that there would be Skyrim Online. Seeing how I'd prefer Morrowind/Daggerfall Online, I think this game COULD interest me IF they do their Magic right. Asuryan himself knows that we need more variety in our landscape, because variety is good and natural(quite unlike this copy WoW!!! fad) :)
  Elikal

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6/05/12 7:25:46 PM#39

As usual the questions were too harmless. I dunno, are all game moderators paid or drugged? Ever so often when I seen a video interview with some game dev, I felt I wanted to jump out of my seat and wished *I* was there asking questions! They never ask hard and important questions! (And this mod clearly needs a haircut...)

Anywhoo... on the one hand everything this Zenimax dude says here and in other interviews is horrible PR bla bla. For a game that is 5 years in development, his info is really close to zero. So they want to make the game accessible. Yes. What the moderator SHOULD have asked: What EXACTLY does that mean, as opposed to other MMOs? What will you make different? Those zombie/sheep moderators drive me nuts. I mean, heck, we all know some hallmarks of what makes a MMO. Would it be so difficult to ask some substantial questions, and NOT let the Zenimax Dev wiggle itself out by hogwash no-info answers?!

On the other hand, the visuals in the vid don't look as bad as some early leaked screenshots. I mean, ok it's not Skyrim quality, but then, no one could expect that. What made me cringe is that some stuff looks too much like from SWTOR, especially some landscape elements. (Oh seriously if you think it looks like WOW you need glasses. No NOT those to drink from. Those for the eyes!) The dungeons looked quite good IMO, actually.

Skeptical, but sure to give it a fair chance when I can try it out.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Elikal

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6/05/12 7:27:54 PM#40
Originally posted by Gorwe
(about Pony's optimism)

Bioware fooled you once with TOR. I remember even now how you and Elikal used to make it look, you know, good. Don't fall for that again. "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on us" eh(Warhammer wisdom lol)?

(concerning TES:O)

Well that dev certainly knew his TES lore. Too bad he didn't actually name Redguard Isles(Yokudan Isles). I also Like approach to gameplay and lore: if it wasn't right to lore, gtfo was what he said basically(if only Mythic followed this common Sense bit). Game looks OK I guess. But I'll keep a good amount of Warhammer stance towards TES:O(as I do towards almost every MMO, with exception of GW 2 and potentially NC titles). After all, what's wrong with doubt?

Oh come on, it is not optimism, it is realism. What do we know so far? Way too little to come to any realistic judgement. If it's bad I will say it when I have enough info. But doomsaying now is sorta absurd. Even SWTOR could have been good, if they had taken care about many of the "small things". And we know close to zilch about that from TESO.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

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