I'm loving the game, any people that loved the other diablo games will love this one also. 

My only beef with the game is that there can only be 4 in a party. There are 5 classes, and the other diablos let 5 people. It affects me more because there are times when there are 5 of us wanting to play together. 

Everything else in the game is everything I was hoping for and more. 

Have had a great experience thus far witht he game. minus the exopected launched day hickup.

best cinematics out there so far and detail. awsome system ingame . great classes and skills.

great Lore- really enjoying the game! -

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Originally posted by someforumguy
Any lag is ridiculous for the single player part. And if you are not interested in the RMT AH then being forced online to enjoy whatever little lag there might be makes it even more laughable. This design mainly caters to Blizzard that wants to skim off more money from the RMT AH, so lets give everyone access to it, no matter if they are interested or not. For anyone who isn't interested in the AH or co op, the online part is only an inconvenience. Imo, the lack of an offline mode for players is Blizzard giving you the finger.

What is next? Bloody weekly server maintenance for a single player game?

I think it is hilarious how many people are trying to make up excuses for this. 'Diablo 3 is a MMO! and it is normal that a MMO launch has issues! '

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Originally posted by Nirrtix

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by Nirrtix

I find it amazing how childish people are because they could not play the first day returning the game and or whining about it. MAny games have first day or even week pains.

I have met so many uninformed people who bought the game thinking it was like Skyrim or Dragon Age (laughs) this game never was or will be meant to be like those this is a Dungeon crawler game.

i agree that the 1st week for any online game is probably going to be bumpy

a big part of players disappointments for connectivity is that, in the past, online was not a requirement to play Diablo

regardless of your opinion that diablo was never meant to be a dungeon crawler game,

D1 and D2 could be played like that if players chose to

- nothing wrong with variety in playstyle options

.... Except that. Starcraft 2 didn't have these issues. Diablo III, inspite of their claims, is a single player game with multiplayer features added on. The content is absolutely no different from one to the other, it just has the same ramped difficultly that D2 had. The most 'multiplayer' feature the game has is the RMT AH that they forced on us players.

Furthermore, it's not just the day 1 server downs, though to call that anything short of a disaster is a bit delusional. We are also forced to use battle.net, for a single player game, which not only clearly has problems staying online, but also has lag issues as well. In the past, if I wanted to play w/ my friends, we could either LAN it or setup our own network, and not have to worry about any of that stuff. Now it's all forced on us.

Maybe you guys like the direction this game has been taken in. Personally, I do not want to be reliant on an internet connection & unreliable servers to play anything that doesn't have to have them. I wouldn't accept this from skyrim, or arkham city, or uncharted; and it's not required for Torchlight 2. So I really don't see how it's all of a sudden 'okay'. If this was happening w/ any other title, I don't think people would be as accepting.

You think one day is a disaster?!?!?! grow up! As for it being single player, I have played this game almost exclusivly as a multiplayer game. The loot is better and it is harder, which means more fun. I have never had problems with battle.net in this game or in Starcraft II. Frankly I did not know people had LAN parties anymore. You do not want to be reliant on the internet? Do you use a 14400 modem at your place? I did not know those still existed. We accept it becuase we are not whiners like you.

So you think it is perfectly acceptable that let's say your ISP has an outage in the area, no fault of your own or Blizzard's, and you cant play a single player game because of it? Or how about if you travel regularly and dont have access to the internet while youre traveling and cant kill some time playing your single player game because of it?

Originally posted by Nirrtix

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by Nirrtix

Originally posted by someforumguy

So yes you are forced online in the singleplayer part. But this is a good thing. This means you can make use of the RMT AH and buy yourself some cool gear with real money. That this means you get some lag and rubberbanding now and then is just a small price to pay for such convenience.

That it might seem that Blizzard only forced the singleplayer part online to broaden their reach with their RMT AH and earn more money, is nothing but a cynical point of view! Everyone knows they put all their hard earned cash back into the development of Diablo 3!

So it is your responsibility as player to make some purchases in the RMT AH , making sure that Blizzard will get the funds to get rid of the lag and create stable servers for your single player game! It comes all down to you!

(rolls eyes) I have had almost NO lag online and as for the RMT AH you do not hae to use it. Heck it is not even in game right now. They do have a in game money AH though you can use. (plays another tiny violen)

Any lag is ridiculous for the single player part. And if you are not interested in the RMT AH then being forced online to enjoy whatever little lag there might be makes it even more laughable. This design mainly caters to Blizzard that wants to skim off more money from the RMT AH, so lets give everyone access to it, no matter if they are interested or not. For anyone who isn't interested in the AH or co op, the online part is only an inconvenience. Imo, the lack of an offline mode for players is Blizzard giving you the finger.

What is next? Bloody weekly server maintenance for a single player game?

I think it is hilarious how many people are trying to make up excuses for this. 'Diablo 3 is a MMO! and it is normal that a MMO launch has issues! '

 

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It is obvious that I don't hate the game. I haven't said a single negative thing about the gameplay. But what I do find hilarious is how some people bend over every bloody time to some ridiculous marketing drivel.

There were two gems lately. D3 forced online play for single play. And Fallen Earth's change for the crafting queue for f2p. The fun part is the excuses those companies come up with for those decisions and the players (and in D3's case games press) who then immediately nod in agreement.

Besides the unexpected downtime resulting from being tied to Online Play, I haven't had a single problem with the game. I'm level 21 and deep into Act 2, and D3 is everything I was waiting for.

I personally don't care if other people like the game; unlike a MMORPG we don't need hundreds of thousands of players to keep the game from shutting down - all I need is myself and a few friends to continue playing the game for the next 10 years (on and off of course).

Originally posted by Talin

Besides the unexpected downtime resulting from being tied to Online Play, I haven't had a single problem with the game. I'm level 21 and deep into Act 2, and D3 is everything I was waiting for.

I personally don't care if other people like the game; unlike a MMORPG we don't need hundreds of thousands of players to keep the game from shutting down - all I need is myself and a few friends to continue playing the game for the next 10 years (on and off of course).

Thats IF they keep the servers up. Thats the funny thing people dont get about it. What if a couple years from now they decide to shut the server down? You wont even be able to play your game as single player anymore.

No matter all this hate of drm BLA.

They still sold a titanic bucket load of copies.

Personally I like logging in I can chat with my friends and I know the game is safer from exploiters how safe, time will tell.

Originally posted by Wicoa

No matter all this hate of drm BLA.

They still sold a titanic bucket load of copies.

Personally I like logging in I can chat with my friends and I know the game is safer from exploiters how safe, time will tell.

Um... exploiters can only really be a problem in multiplayer, which requires logging in anyway.  You cant exactly have an exploiter bothering you in single player games. Requiring people to connect just to play single player doesnt make them "safer", youre by yourself anyway.

They really should have just advertised it as a multiplayer game with an optional solo mode, they'd have nowhere near the amount of complainers (just the D2 supremacists, who would still whine anyway). 

Also looking back on it, I rarely  played D2 in single player mode anyway. It was always in closed games over battle.net if I didn't feel like playing with other folks. In fact, that's what I still do if I want to solo. Once I realized that, I had no more issues with online only.

Also, for those complaining about lack of LAN play... really? Last time I played anything on LAN was 1998 or so. Get with modern times please. In an era where pretty much any device imaginable can connect to the internet, LAN play is positively archaic.

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by Nirrtix

I find it amazing how childish people are because they could not play the first day returning the game and or whining about it. MAny games have first day or even week pains.

I have met so many uninformed people who bought the game thinking it was like Skyrim or Dragon Age (laughs) this game never was or will be meant to be like those this is a Dungeon crawler game.

i agree that the 1st week for any online game is probably going to be bumpy

a big part of players disappointments for connectivity is that, in the past, online was not a requirement to play Diablo

regardless of your opinion that diablo was never meant to be a dungeon crawler game,

D1 and D2 could be played like that if players chose to

- nothing wrong with variety in playstyle options

.... Except that. Starcraft 2 didn't have these issues. Diablo III, inspite of their claims, is a single player game with multiplayer features added on. The content is absolutely no different from one to the other, it just has the same ramped difficultly that D2 had. The most 'multiplayer' feature the game has is the RMT AH that they forced on us players.

Furthermore, it's not just the day 1 server downs, though to call that anything short of a disaster is a bit delusional. We are also forced to use battle.net, for a single player game, which not only clearly has problems staying online, but also has lag issues as well. In the past, if I wanted to play w/ my friends, we could either LAN it or setup our own network, and not have to worry about any of that stuff. Now it's all forced on us.

Maybe you guys like the direction this game has been taken in. Personally, I do not want to be reliant on an internet connection & unreliable servers to play anything that doesn't have to have them. I wouldn't accept this from skyrim, or arkham city, or uncharted; and it's not required for Torchlight 2. So I really don't see how it's all of a sudden 'okay'. If this was happening w/ any other title, I don't think people would be as accepting.

 What are you doing?  Stealing your neighbors internet?  I'm trying to understand the big deal about having to have an internet connnection for someone who's posting on an internet forum dedicated to online gaming.  I'm a little baffled by the complaint from people here.

You obviously have internet.

You obviously have an interest in games that require an internet connection.

You guys even admit that you played over LAN. 

So let me do some math here.

You guys have interent, plus you guys have an interest in online games, then we add in the fact that most of you admit to playing multiplayer over LAN in the past with D2.  Yeah, I'm going to need someone with a better understanding of advanced mathematics to do this one for me. 

Maybe I'm missing a value?  It's 2012; not 2000.  Today most people have highspeed internet, and serevers aren't as expensive as people think, plus bandwidth is actually not as expensive today.  12 years ago most people had dial-up, serevers cost much more and the technology wasn't as good, plus bandwidth was actually more expensive.

Perhaps I need to add in a personal experience value?  I used to play warcraft and starcraft over LAN and networking because most games didn't actually offer dedicated servers.  I remember playing NwN on people servers with only a couple dozen people and wow talk about lag, and that was when broadband was first starting to get into homes. 

Perhaps I'm missing the college value?  My friends went to college in the mid 90's up to the beginning of 2000; they were playing these games over a university network, using a T1 connection.  It would be several years before people at home would get an internet connection remotely resembling what universities had at that time.

No, that didn't help.  Only made the equation that much more difficult.

This isn't the year 2000.  Internet and servers have come a long ways.  If blizzard had eccess to the kind of tech we have today, when they released D2, you can bet it would have been an only online game back then as well.

D2 didn't survive 12 years because it had phenominal gameplay.  It survived because it had phenominal multiplayer.  Welcome to the future guys, were games live and die by their multiplayer components, and game companies can afford to host dedicated servers at very little cost to allow them to make thier games strickly online.

If that's such a problem for some of you, then perhaps you should unplug your internet and stop complaining about a game requiring an internet connection, on an internet forum, dedicated to internet games.  

D3 is an online game, you don't have to accept that, but complaining about it here of all places is beyond rediculous.  How about you WRITE A LETTER to game informer instead?

Originally posted by Resiakraw

Originally posted by Talin

Besides the unexpected downtime resulting from being tied to Online Play, I haven't had a single problem with the game. I'm level 21 and deep into Act 2, and D3 is everything I was waiting for.

I personally don't care if other people like the game; unlike a MMORPG we don't need hundreds of thousands of players to keep the game from shutting down - all I need is myself and a few friends to continue playing the game for the next 10 years (on and off of course).

Thats IF they keep the servers up. Thats the funny thing people dont get about it. What if a couple years from now they decide to shut the server down? You wont even be able to play your game as single player anymore.

Im sure some geek will end up in some form of virtual server, or maybe blizzard himself makes a patch, allowing single player gaming with restricted features.  But not now, on launch, when the games grow old and all the mistery being removed.

Originally posted by Uhwop

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Nadia

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 What are you doing?  Stealing your neighbors internet?  I'm trying to understand the big deal about having to have an internet connnection for someone who's posting on an internet forum dedicated to online gaming.  I'm a little baffled by the complaint from people here.

You obviously have internet.

You obviously have an interest in games that require an internet connection.

You guys even admit that you played over LAN. 

So let me do some math here.

You guys have interent, plus you guys have an interest in online games, then we add in the fact that most of you admit to playing multiplayer over LAN in the past with D2.  Yeah, I'm going to need someone with a better understanding of advanced mathematics to do this one for me. 

Maybe I'm missing a value?  It's 2012; not 2000.  Today most people have highspeed internet, and serevers aren't as expensive as people think, plus bandwidth is actually not as expensive today.  12 years ago most people had dial-up, serevers cost much more and the technology wasn't as good, plus bandwidth was actually more expensive.

Perhaps I need to add in a personal experience value?  I used to play warcraft and starcraft over LAN and networking because most games didn't actually offer dedicated servers.  I remember playing NwN on people servers with only a couple dozen people and wow talk about lag, and that was when broadband was first starting to get into homes. 

Perhaps I'm missing the college value?  My friends went to college in the mid 90's up to the beginning of 2000; they were playing these games over a university network, using a T1 connection.  It would be several years before people at home would get an internet connection remotely resembling what universities had at that time.

No, that didn't help.  Only made the equation that much more difficult.

 

This isn't the year 2000.  Internet and servers have come a long ways.  If blizzard had eccess to the kind of tech we have today, when they released D2, you can bet it would have been an only online game back then as well.

D2 didn't survive 12 years because it had phenomincal gameplay.  It survived because it had phenominal multiplayer.  Welcome to the future guys, were games live and die by their multiplayer components, and game companies can afford to host dedicated servers at very little cost to allow them to make thier games strickly online.

If that's such a problem for some of you, then perhaps you should unplug your internet and stop complaining about a game requiring an internet connection, on an internet forum, dedicated to internet games.  

D3 is an online game, you don't have to accept that, but complaining about it here of all places is beyond rediculous.  How about you WRITE A LETTER to game informer instead?

I'll just throw this in for the people in ivory towers: I just upgraded my internet from a 5gb a month plan to a 27gb plan. Bandwidth is a precious commodity for me, and to waste it on a single-player game borders on insane.

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Originally posted by Uhwop

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Nadia

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 What are you doing?  Stealing your neighbors internet?  I'm trying to understand the big deal about having to have an internet connnection for someone who's posting on an internet forum dedicated to online gaming.  I'm a little baffled by the complaint from people here.

You obviously have internet.

You obviously have an interest in games that require an internet connection.

You guys even admit that you played over LAN. 

So let me do some math here.

You guys have interent, plus you guys have an interest in online games, then we add in the fact that most of you admit to playing multiplayer over LAN in the past with D2.  Yeah, I'm going to need someone with a better understanding of advanced mathematics to do this one for me. 

Maybe I'm missing a value?  It's 2012; not 2000.  Today most people have highspeed internet, and serevers aren't as expensive as people think, plus bandwidth is actually not as expensive today.  12 years ago most people had dial-up, serevers cost much more and the technology wasn't as good, plus bandwidth was actually more expensive.

Perhaps I need to add in a personal experience value?  I used to play warcraft and starcraft over LAN and networking because most games didn't actually offer dedicated servers.  I remember playing NwN on people servers with only a couple dozen people and wow talk about lag, and that was when broadband was first starting to get into homes. 

Perhaps I'm missing the college value?  My friends went to college in the mid 90's up to the beginning of 2000; they were playing these games over a university network, using a T1 connection.  It would be several years before people at home would get an internet connection remotely resembling what universities had at that time.

No, that didn't help.  Only made the equation that much more difficult.

 

This isn't the year 2000.  Internet and servers have come a long ways.  If blizzard had eccess to the kind of tech we have today, when they released D2, you can bet it would have been an only online game back then as well.

D2 didn't survive 12 years because it had phenomincal gameplay.  It survived because it had phenominal multiplayer.  Welcome to the future guys, were games live and die by their multiplayer components, and game companies can afford to host dedicated servers at very little cost to allow them to make thier games strickly online.

If that's such a problem for some of you, then perhaps you should unplug your internet and stop complaining about a game requiring an internet connection, on an internet forum, dedicated to internet games.  

D3 is an online game, you don't have to accept that, but complaining about it here of all places is beyond rediculous.  How about you WRITE A LETTER to game informer instead?

I'll just throw this in for the people in ivory towers: I just upgraded my internet from a 5gb a month plan to a 27gb plan. Bandwidth is a precious commodity for me, and to waste it on a single-player game borders on insane.

 How stupid do you think I am?

You're from Nevada, I'm from Delaware.  Odds are the exact same providers operate in your state as operate in mine.  We can even ignore the fact that in our country you don't pay for what you use, only the speed.

Try another one.  It cost you NOTHING to play D3 online.  NOTHING.  The fact you would even quote me and then make the responce you did is beyond insulting. 

Try as much as you like, common sense can't be argued against. 

Originally posted by Angier2758

 Grow up... and guess what the customer is usually wrong, the business just smiles and lets you have your way for the good fo the business.... but make no mistake you weren't "right".

 

This. I work in costumer service, and I couldn't agree more with your statement.

Originally posted by Uhwop

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Originally posted by Uhwop

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Nadia

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 What are you doing?  Stealing your neighbors internet?  I'm trying to understand the big deal about having to have an internet connnection for someone who's posting on an internet forum dedicated to online gaming.  I'm a little baffled by the complaint from people here.

You obviously have internet.

You obviously have an interest in games that require an internet connection.

You guys even admit that you played over LAN. 

So let me do some math here.

You guys have interent, plus you guys have an interest in online games, then we add in the fact that most of you admit to playing multiplayer over LAN in the past with D2.  Yeah, I'm going to need someone with a better understanding of advanced mathematics to do this one for me. 

Maybe I'm missing a value?  It's 2012; not 2000.  Today most people have highspeed internet, and serevers aren't as expensive as people think, plus bandwidth is actually not as expensive today.  12 years ago most people had dial-up, serevers cost much more and the technology wasn't as good, plus bandwidth was actually more expensive.

Perhaps I need to add in a personal experience value?  I used to play warcraft and starcraft over LAN and networking because most games didn't actually offer dedicated servers.  I remember playing NwN on people servers with only a couple dozen people and wow talk about lag, and that was when broadband was first starting to get into homes. 

Perhaps I'm missing the college value?  My friends went to college in the mid 90's up to the beginning of 2000; they were playing these games over a university network, using a T1 connection.  It would be several years before people at home would get an internet connection remotely resembling what universities had at that time.

No, that didn't help.  Only made the equation that much more difficult.

 

This isn't the year 2000.  Internet and servers have come a long ways.  If blizzard had eccess to the kind of tech we have today, when they released D2, you can bet it would have been an only online game back then as well.

D2 didn't survive 12 years because it had phenomincal gameplay.  It survived because it had phenominal multiplayer.  Welcome to the future guys, were games live and die by their multiplayer components, and game companies can afford to host dedicated servers at very little cost to allow them to make thier games strickly online.

If that's such a problem for some of you, then perhaps you should unplug your internet and stop complaining about a game requiring an internet connection, on an internet forum, dedicated to internet games.  

D3 is an online game, you don't have to accept that, but complaining about it here of all places is beyond rediculous.  How about you WRITE A LETTER to game informer instead?

I'll just throw this in for the people in ivory towers: I just upgraded my internet from a 5gb a month plan to a 27gb plan. Bandwidth is a precious commodity for me, and to waste it on a single-player game borders on insane.

 How stupid do you think I am?

You're from Nevada, I'm from Delaware.  Odds are the exact same providers operate in your state as operate in mine.  We can even ignore the fact that in our country you don't pay for what you use, only the speed.

Try another one.  It cost you NOTHING to play D3 online.  NOTHING.  The fact you would even quote me and then make the responce you did is beyond insulting. 

Try as much as you like, common sense can't be argued against. 

LOL, you're tower sure is shiny. Those fancy wires they use to get you that super-cool unlimited download internet? Yeah, they haven't run them in rural Missouri yet. Maybe in a few years. But for now, my choices are cell-modem, satellite and dial-up (except I don't have a landline either, no point).

I don't think you're stupid, just very uninformed on events outside your apartment.

Originally posted by Uhwop

I'll just throw this in for the people in ivory towers: I just upgraded my internet from a 5gb a month plan to a 27gb plan. Bandwidth is a precious commodity for me, and to waste it on a single-player game borders on insane.

 How stupid do you think I am?

You're from Nevada, I'm from Delaware.  Odds are the exact same providers operate in your state as operate in mine.  We can even ignore the fact that in our country you don't pay for what you use, only the speed.

Try another one.  It cost you NOTHING to play D3 online.  NOTHING.  The fact you would even quote me and then make the responce you did is beyond insulting. 

Try as much as you like, common sense can't be argued against. 

Just because a state may have a provider doesn't mean every area of that state is carried, and yes many people do have to pay for what they use if they exceed usage limits.

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Agree. Given that most of your data is on your Hard Drive you WONT be using much of your bandwidth. When you play online you're not sending and recieving too much data between your PC and their servers and 27GB is PLENTY. I personally am not getting the game just yet but that's for other silly reasons. 

good lord...people making such a big deal out of beginning connectivity issues is over the top. i've been playing fine lately and i'm sure blizzard will do all they can to keep it as smooth sailing as possible. here, you have a game thats b2p, one time...forever. heck, people are still playing D1 and D2 and how many years ago were they made? you can play D3 for years too, yet you whine over a couple days with connect probs??

doom and gloom? get real. the game rocks and is great fun

Originally posted by x5100

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Agree. Given that most of your data is on your Hard Drive you WONT be using much of your bandwidth. When you play online you're not sending and recieving too much data between your PC and their servers and 27GB is PLENTY. I personally am not getting the game just yet but that's for other silly reasons. 

I agree that 27gb is enough to play D3, but then tack on a family that uses the net, MMOs that need patching, and I'd like to be able to use netflix.....

Until recently, I had 5gb to work with. That's barely enough to patch a game and continue to do other internet activities. I've gone over my allotment several times and that gets expensive in a hurry. 

27gb will be a nice change, if I can handle the increased ping of satellite internet. Cell modem was bad enough.......