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  Isasis

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OP  5/16/12 6:41:52 PM#1

LOL

 

So, Blizzard releases 100% online all the time DRM in Diablo 3. Even for Singleplayer.

Most people defend it.

 

Ubisoft releases 100% online all the time DRM in their games. Even for Singleplayer.

Everyone hates on them

 

Next time Ubisoft releases their next DRM game, I'll remind everyone of how everyone defended Blizzard's exact same DRM.

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  expresso

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5/16/12 7:14:15 PM#2

Different systems - D3 is a client/server game built like that from the ground up, Unisoft just put an 'are you online' check ontop of a finished game.

  darkehawke

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5/16/12 7:15:34 PM#3
Originally posted by expresso

Different systems - D3 is a client/server game built like that from the ground up, Unisoft just put an 'are you online' check ontop of a finished game.

the principle is the same though

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  AvatarBlade

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5/16/12 7:16:21 PM#4
Originally posted by Isasis

LOL

 

So, Blizzard releases 100% online all the time DRM in Diablo 3. Even for Singleplayer.

Most people defend it.

 

Ubisoft releases 100% online all the time DRM in their games. Even for Singleplayer.

Everyone hates on them

 

Next time Ubisoft releases their next DRM game, I'll remind everyone of how everyone defended Blizzard's exact same DRM.

Haha, can you imagine the slack a company like EA would have gotten for doing something like this? Oh well.

  Worstluck

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No man controls my destiny... especially not one who attacks downwind and stinks of garlic.

5/16/12 7:20:23 PM#5

Eh?  Most people haven't defended it.  In fact most people I to talk to or hear from are disappointed with the always online feature.  The general forums have been a shitstorm with constant requests for an offline mode. 

 

Personally I don't care for it either.  I have only gotten to play for a couple hours due to work, but I have had 8 hours or so of available time.  The servers have been down for 6 of my available hours since release.  On top of that i have not been able to play with my friends due to conflicting work schedules and the servers being down for most of the evening yesterday, when we had time to play together. 

 

I deal with Steam offline mode all the time, it's not the greatest either.  I realize things will get better once less people are logging in, however I still don't like it.

  Drakaden

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5/16/12 7:21:52 PM#6

This DRM method sure sounds awful and lack wisdom, i still remember the DRM method on Spore when it came out, that was rather bad, and they got a mob of pitchforks and torches at them for it.

I personally didn't purchase Diablo 3, Path of Exile is a free to play MMO that ressembles Diablo 2 but with different aspects that will comes out in open beta fairly soon, so... a Fool in it's pocket, what do i choose? A doubious game that would costs me box price and give me only a few hours of enjoyment and an instability of gameplay even in single player mode, or a diablo-like game with more appealing game mechanics that is an actual MMO that won't costs me a dime to try and enjoy? I'll let you figure the obvious answer to this.

  TurkeyBurger

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5/16/12 8:18:13 PM#7

The blizzdrones are out in force tonight. Sure is rabid fanboy in here.

Defending DRM is like trying to defend eating shit.

I do not care how much you enjoy the taste of shit, or the fact that Blizzard shit onto your plate.

SHIT IS SHIT!

STOP EATING IT BLIZZDRONES!

 

  Puremallace

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5/16/12 8:20:24 PM#8

Blizzard could knock on your door and take a dump right on your chest and their fans would defend them. Stop trying people they like being duped out of their money. Just be smart and go invest in ATVI and make money off of the idiots.

  NightBandit

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5/16/12 8:22:59 PM#9
Originally posted by Isasis

LOL

 

So, Blizzard releases 100% online all the time DRM in Diablo 3. Even for Singleplayer.

Most people defend it.

 

Ubisoft releases 100% online all the time DRM in their games. Even for Singleplayer.

Everyone hates on them

 

Next time Ubisoft releases their next DRM game, I'll remind everyone of how everyone defended Blizzard's exact same DRM.

 Humans have short memories so pointless waste of your time, they are programmed to defiy any kind of logic...

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  Aori

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5/16/12 8:28:18 PM#10

If I had only planned to play diablo 3 by myself, then yes the DRM would upset me. However it being online only makes me happy as i'm only interested in playing online only.

I want the persistance experience with this style of game. If this game was as open as D2 was, we wouldn't have the RMAH (lets not even get into the RMAH). We'd have people max level already, hacks and the best duped crafted items flooding the gold AH if the RMAH wasn't around.

I'll defend it as long as blizzard keeps my game clean, if it turns out like D2 did.. well i'd change my voice.

  dubyahite

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5/16/12 8:34:52 PM#11
So far I have put 13 hours in, all of it multiplayer.

I dont play Diablo as singleplayer. It's a multiplayer game for me so I don't care.

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No man controls my destiny... especially not one who attacks downwind and stinks of garlic.

5/16/12 8:42:45 PM#12

Hah got kicked off and can't log back in again. Oh well, maybe this will be a short one.

 

I have put three hours in.  I work full time and this is two nights in a row with downed servers.  I did try to play release night/early morning that was no go.  Got two hours last night before the servers went down for a couple hours.  Just played about an hour.

 

I really enjoy the game however.  The little bit I have played.  I realize this is an insanely popular game, but I just feel like Blizzard could have done a better job with this.  There was only really one major stress test, and it had problems too.  Should have been more stress tests IMO.

  Ausare

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5/16/12 8:47:12 PM#13

D3 is more single player with multi player connections.  Even your single player game can effect the multiplayer world because of the AH, competative rankings, and future arenas.  Blizzard needs to make sure everyone is not cheating for those things to work.  If the game was straight single player like Skyrim then yes it would be shitty, but for many D3 is competative and cooperative more than single player.

  Ausare

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5/16/12 8:49:11 PM#14
Originally posted by Worstluck

Hah got kicked off and can't log back in again. Oh well, maybe this will be a short one.

 

I have put three hours in.  I work full time and this is two nights in a row with downed servers.  I did try to play release night/early morning that was no go.  Got two hours last night before the servers went down for a couple hours.  Just played about an hour.

 

I really enjoy the game however.  The little bit I have played.  I realize this is an insanely popular game, but I just feel like Blizzard could have done a better job with this.  There was only really one major stress test, and it had problems too.  Should have been more stress tests IMO.

Played 4 hours today and one this morning....never been dropped and I have never found the servers down.  The only thing I would say is the game has been out a day or so...servers being reset for various reasons, minor bugs being handled with log ins, etc.  are all pretty standard for online games at the start.

  NightCloak

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5/16/12 8:51:20 PM#15

I am 100% online all the time anyway. The DRM doesn't bother me.

  dubyahite

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5/16/12 9:09:50 PM#16
Interesting that someone mentioned Skyrim.

I would totally put up with always on drm in Skyrim if it meant coop multiplayer being in the game. Hell yeah that would be sweet.

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  feroshus

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5/16/12 9:12:20 PM#17
Originally posted by NightCloak

I am 100% online all the time anyway. The DRM doesn't bother me.

I know right, who isn't?

The game is fine as it is, I never once played either D1 or D2 offline, what's the point? Also all these people crying about connectivity less than 48 hours after a huge launch (with midnight lineups and everything) are just straight morons.

If D3 isn't doing it for you go play a lame cash shop POS clone, no one will stop you I promise.

  Everket

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5/16/12 9:28:08 PM#18
Originally posted by feroshus
Originally posted by NightCloak

I am 100% online all the time anyway. The DRM doesn't bother me.

I know right, who isn't?

The game is fine as it is, I never once played either D1 or D2 offline, what's the point? Also all these people crying about connectivity less than 48 hours after a huge launch (with midnight lineups and everything) are just straight morons.

If D3 isn't doing it for you go play a lame cash shop POS clone, no one will stop you I promise.

How can I tell you this without being rude? But how self centered do you have to be to write like that? there is a large portion of the world without easy access to le interwebz. Or does that not matter as long as you have internet? And since you never played d1&2 offline, does that mean nobody else did either? Why would you write that? We're in 2012, and we take steps back as far as features is concerned? Region locked? Drm okay? In what universe is this progress and acceptable?

 

I did expect problems, and I think it's somewhat to be expected. Although activision blizzard is frigging huge, and it should be possible to do this better. Steam does it every day. But that's not really the point. It's just so god damn unnecessary to have these problems, they should not be there. It's just dumb, there is no real justification for it. Hearing people being happy with the ping is hilarious. Why would that even be an issue? It shouldn't, and my mind is blown everytime I read it, because I just can't understand why that should be something to be concerned over.

 

the ubisoft comparison is funny as heck, and hypocrisy at it's finest. What a god damn cesspool.

  Worstluck

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5/16/12 9:33:20 PM#19
Originally posted by Ausare
Originally posted by Worstluck

Hah got kicked off and can't log back in again. Oh well, maybe this will be a short one.

 

I have put three hours in.  I work full time and this is two nights in a row with downed servers.  I did try to play release night/early morning that was no go.  Got two hours last night before the servers went down for a couple hours.  Just played about an hour.

 

I really enjoy the game however.  The little bit I have played.  I realize this is an insanely popular game, but I just feel like Blizzard could have done a better job with this.  There was only really one major stress test, and it had problems too.  Should have been more stress tests IMO.

Played 4 hours today and one this morning....never been dropped and I have never found the servers down.  The only thing I would say is the game has been out a day or so...servers being reset for various reasons, minor bugs being handled with log ins, etc.  are all pretty standard for online games at the start.

 

 

Hah I guess I am full of it then.  I really could login from 9pm to 12am last night PST.  I guess I really could log in the past hour, I just chose not to. 

 

 

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5/16/12 9:33:37 PM#20
Originally posted by NightCloak

I am 100% online all the time anyway. The DRM doesn't bother me.

Never had your internet go down for a few days?  It's nice to have a game (or movies for that matter) that plays off-line while you wait for the service tech to show up.....

 

 

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