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  Lashley

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Posts: 615

5/20/12 1:35:18 PM#121

apparently you can use ARMA II free and just buy OA to use the mod, so it only costs £8.50

  UristMcDwarf

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5/20/12 9:18:38 PM#122
Originally posted by eddieg50

 Sounds interesting however I would never play anything that had perma death. Just cant see investing hours into game in order to start over again

 

Dying is part of the game and is actually what makes it fun! It's not about being a badass with your gear and being the best. The fun is simply surviving the night for as long as you can. Death is inevitable, though. You will die and you will lose everything. But when you're playing you'll find that more often than not that getting the gear is more fun that having the gear.

 

@Lashley,

That's correct. If you don't want to pay for the Combined Operations pack and/or don't want to download 14GB's you can use the free-to-play version of ARMA 2 along with Operation Arrowhead. Of course, as you mentioned, you won't have as good as graphics. I believe you can also use a pirated version of ARMA 2, but I wouldn't know for sure.

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  negacrowbar

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5/21/12 1:09:30 AM#123

While it is 15 dollars cheaper on Amazon, than Steam, you do have to do a lot of manual downloading of patches to get this game caught up whereas with Steam it does that for you.

I am glad for the OP that turned me on to this game. I have been wanting somethig like this for awhile and there are a couple of other companies designing somthing similar (ther is one coming for consoles/pcs but I cant remember the name nor what decade they plan on finishing it)

For those who are POed about permadeath, it is zombie survival horror sim where permadeath is a valuble and important element to simulate the survivial part.

I am still patching this game but I plan on playing it soon and being a lone wolf for awhile until I get a good graps of the game.

Nothing else interests me right now until GW2 comes out.

  Gibbonici

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5/21/12 1:27:27 AM#124
Originally posted by negacrowbar

For those who are POed about permadeath, it is zombie survival horror sim where permadeath is a valuble and important element to simulate the survivial part.

 

Exactly this ^

 

There's no survival without death and anything but permadeath isn't death at all.

  Tyroki

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 176

5/21/12 8:45:42 AM#125
Originally posted by Gibbonici
Originally posted by Sasami
 It's a nice idea that deserves to be own game instead of just mod.

It certainly does.

 

Dean Hall is actually a game producer and the reason he started work on this mod in his spare time is that he couldn't get any backers to fund a project like this. He shares the frustration of a great many of us about the state of AAA games these days, where development money won't chase anything that hasn't been proved to death over and over again, or that isn't designed with the lowest common denominator in mind.

Someone point the man at Kickstarter. Problem solved.

 

A lot of developers are using things like kickstarter these days to completely bypass that need for any other backer than the customer. I saw one manage several million when their goal was something like 100k. If I recall correctly, they were utterly stoked that people liked their ideas so much as to front them so much. They said it would go to making it even higher quality than 100k would allow.

MMO's played: Ragnarok Online (For years), WoW (for a few weeks only), Guild Wars, Lineage 2, Eve, Allods, Shattered Galaxy, 9 Dragons, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Star Trek Online (Got someone ELSE to pay for it), Champions Online (Someone else paid), Dofus, Dragonica, LOTRO, DDO and more... A LOT more. I've played good AND bad. The bad didn't last long. :P

  Tyroki

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Joined: 11/23/05
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5/21/12 9:00:04 AM#126

Got a bit of a story of my own here :D

 

Just started today, and already I've been threw several characters. This is the story of my most recent one.

 

 

I had a character last an hour earlier. He died about half an hour ago. I started in a port city that seemed just fine at first. Of course, having been inside a village on a previous character, I knew the 'calm' was not to be trusted.
 
Scaling a nearby multi-storied building (not all are enterable though), I scanned my surroundings.
 
Ho. Ly. Crap
 
Utterly surrounded.
 
Somehow I managed to quietly, and very cautiously make my way past the zombies. Outside of the city, I found the bodies of several fellow survivors that hadn't made it. Clearly they had rushed, where I had chosen caution.
 
Looting their packs and filling my already almost full pack (Limited space. Go figure,) I explored the surrounding area of the city.
 
However, like the brazen fools before me, I decided to play rash and re-enter the city in hopes of finding better supplies. A torch, a gun, better medical supplies than a mere bandage, some medical syringes and a can of painkillers... heck... even a can of beans would have been nice. This was to be my downfall.
 
I slipped in to the city, remaining cautious. However, I found myself surrounded for several minutes with no chance for escape. The zombies had not yet caught wind of me, but time would soon change that. When I thought I saw an opening, that was it. Crouching, I slowly inched my way past the horde... only to be spotted by one. Blast it all, I should have gone prone!
 
With all the speed the game would allow me, I ran. Several were on my tail. I dared not turn and shoot in fear of alerting the entire city. When I thought the coast was fairly clear, I did what I knew not to do. I turned. I shot. And I alerted the entire damned city.
 
Three turned to five more. Eight to fifteen. I'm fairly sure I could hear the hungry roars of more, but it didn't matter. What few mags I could hold were depleted, I had no way of defending myself. I could not run. They had blocked every way out. The only thing I could do, was surrender myself to the fate my stupidity had decided upon.
 
At least I died fighting.
 

MMO's played: Ragnarok Online (For years), WoW (for a few weeks only), Guild Wars, Lineage 2, Eve, Allods, Shattered Galaxy, 9 Dragons, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Star Trek Online (Got someone ELSE to pay for it), Champions Online (Someone else paid), Dofus, Dragonica, LOTRO, DDO and more... A LOT more. I've played good AND bad. The bad didn't last long. :P

  Lashley

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Joined: 7/08/07
Posts: 615

5/21/12 9:05:41 AM#127
Originally posted by BanjoKazooie
Originally posted by eddieg50

 Sounds interesting however I would never play anything that had perma death. Just cant see investing hours into game in order to start over again

 

Dying is part of the game and is actually what makes it fun! It's not about being a badass with your gear and being the best. The fun is simply surviving the night for as long as you can. Death is inevitable, though. You will die and you will lose everything. But when you're playing you'll find that more often than not that getting the gear is more fun that having the gear.

 

@Lashley,

That's correct. If you don't want to pay for the Combined Operations pack and/or don't want to download 14GB's you can use the free-to-play version of ARMA 2 along with Operation Arrowhead. Of course, as you mentioned, you won't have as good as graphics. I believe you can also use a pirated version of ARMA 2, but I wouldn't know for sure.

cheers for the info mate

 

whats the graphics capped to?

  SlickShoes

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Joined: 3/01/06
Posts: 1040

5/21/12 9:16:41 AM#128

I never even knew this existed, it looks fanastic!

I never thought I would be the type of guy that likes a permadeath game but this seems to put a real relatable spin on it.

As soon as I get paid at the weekend I will be getting myself a copy of Windows and this game and mod!

  spizz

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Joined: 7/11/04
Posts: 2585

5/21/12 11:15:04 AM#129

Saw this on one of the forums and thought I should post it, its the most cheap offer I saw so far.

 

- Amazon offer 50% sale (digital version)  -

Arma 2 combined op  for 14.99 $ - the whole package which you need

http://www.amazon.com/Meridian4-40365ned-Operations-ArmA2-Combined/dp/B003UV8RRE

 

And about this mod, honestly the game itself offers a lot more than just DayZ and it is still one of the best military multiplayer game. They offer for example Warfare servers (Game Type: CTI), which is a mix between FPS and RTS strategy. This is really cool, you have a player commander who starts building barracks, communication center, fortification for the base, moves HQ and so on. Actually, you are conquering territory and can take villages/cities...check it out.  

The well known Project Reality mod from the Battlefield 2 community did switch to Arma 2 and they released an awesome mod aswell. I44 is another great mod but not often played, the new release of Front Assault: Liberation 1944 will be probably a success, game looks awesome with more realistic dmg models.

 

PR Arma: Project Reality Mod

http://www.realitymod.com/downloads

 

Arma Warfare - FPS/RTS gameplay with the aim to conquer territory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzg7MRxNwS4

 

 

Iron Front: Liberation 1944 - standalone release in some days

This looks really cool and is maybe a highlight this year, thinking about to buy this

Air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEmhU3Vukfg

Infantry & Tanking (the fog looks great)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=i1prfOG91pw

 

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  TruthXHurts

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5/21/12 11:20:28 AM#130

Do the zombies still run right through walls? That was the dealbreaker for me on that mod. 28 Days later sprinters that don't have to worry about being locked out are not that fun to fight.

 

On another note I have found an amazing sandbox in ARMA 2 called TCG Island Life. It's a heavily moderated server and requires players who want to be the police to take training courses.

"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  BigHatLogan

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Joined: 1/09/06
Posts: 695

5/21/12 12:39:27 PM#131

+1 on Dayz.  I've been playing for a couple weeks now and this isn't something that is going to get boring.  Rocket has been churning out patches pretty quickly, fixing a lot of things and testing the overall number of zombies and their respawn timers.  My MnB clan decided to start playing and things have gotten pretty epic.  We went the bandit route and kill and murder other players, usually hanging out in the middle areas of the map.  We have built vehicles.  We have engaged in extremely tense firefights with other organized bandits.  We have set ambushes, we have cleared entire cities of zombies.  The next step really comes down to marking out territory for one's self.  We have a couple cities that we patrol, and coming near them means that a lot of people are going to die. 

Most recently four of us set an ambush for a group of three that were looting our city.  We first saw them sneaking through the city mostly obscurred by buildings.  Guessing that they may enter this huge horse stable, we set up an ambush on the opposite end of it waiting for them to emerge.  They didn't.  I go prone and crawl towards the stable, zombies are shambling within 10 feet of  me.  As I approach the entrance to the stable, one of our squad members yells "You got zombies on you!"  I stand up and run into the stable with my MP5 at the ready.  No survivors inside.  10 or so zombies come in for me but we easily dispatch them. 

We have lost our prey at this point though.  We withdraw from the city and crawl prone through the grass towards a nearby military base.  We find the base cleared of zombies and looted of ammunition.  Exiting the base we crawl further along the city outskirts.  Then we spotted them.  We engaged in a field of haystacks.  Our squad leader had us all sight in on a guy who was messing around doing something in the field.  We opened up on him with 2 AK-74's and an MP5.  He drops.  A second guy pops out from behind a hay stack at about 150 meters.  I suppress him with an MP5 until i can get my squad mates to redirect on him with rifles.  As the second guy goes down I hear a loud bang, and my screen tells me that I am dead.  Apparently they had a sniper in the hay field as well.  Another bang and a second member of our squad goes down.  A third bang, and a third member drops though he is unconscious with shock rather than dead.  On teamspeak he screams for an epi pen.  Our only unharmed member stabs him full of adhrenaline and then takes off running.  The sniper sights in on the runner but can't hit him.  The revived and wounded rifleman sneaks around behind the sniper and executes him.  Victory.  Our survivors loot their bodies for beans and ammo. 

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  UristMcDwarf

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5/21/12 3:53:35 PM#132
Originally posted by Lashley
Originally posted by BanjoKazooie
Originally posted by eddieg50

 Sounds interesting however I would never play anything that had perma death. Just cant see investing hours into game in order to start over again

 

Dying is part of the game and is actually what makes it fun! It's not about being a badass with your gear and being the best. The fun is simply surviving the night for as long as you can. Death is inevitable, though. You will die and you will lose everything. But when you're playing you'll find that more often than not that getting the gear is more fun that having the gear.

 

@Lashley,

That's correct. If you don't want to pay for the Combined Operations pack and/or don't want to download 14GB's you can use the free-to-play version of ARMA 2 along with Operation Arrowhead. Of course, as you mentioned, you won't have as good as graphics. I believe you can also use a pirated version of ARMA 2, but I wouldn't know for sure.

cheers for the info mate

 

whats the graphics capped to?

 

I'm not exactly sure, to be honest. If I had to guess it would be stuck on low/medium graphics applied to textures (such as character/building skins). Here's a good comparison video to give you an idea of what to expect with the free-to-play version.

 

@TruthXHurts

 

They still do, I'm afraid. And the AI pathing is still pretty retarded doing the whole erratic zigzags with pauses and what have you. However, I think this is just a case of it being an alpha game at the moment.

 

As for the 28 Days Later zombies - yeah, I don't find them that enjoyable either. I read that he was wanting more walkers.. but since they're only deadly in numbers we can't have them on the scale that it would take due to ARMA 2's engine limitations. So I imagine we're stuck with the fast zombies in key locations for the time being.

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  dooney

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5/21/12 5:28:11 PM#133

I feel connected to my character when I get stuff done in a fantasy world. I felt really connected to my Darkfall character not because of the grind (I macro'd my character), but because of the shit that I did with my character, be that hanging out with my guild, attending sieges and various events. MMORPGs need to be less about "i got x skill or x item in y time" and more about a constant journey where everything you do is an adventure. 

  Tyroki

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5/21/12 10:34:10 PM#134
Originally posted by BigHatLogan

+1 on Dayz.  I've been playing for a couple weeks now and this isn't something that is going to get boring.  Rocket has been churning out patches pretty quickly, fixing a lot of things and testing the overall number of zombies and their respawn timers.  My MnB clan decided to start playing and things have gotten pretty epic.  We went the bandit route and kill and murder other players, usually hanging out in the middle areas of the map.  We have built vehicles.  We have engaged in extremely tense firefights with other organized bandits.  We have set ambushes, we have cleared entire cities of zombies.  The next step really comes down to marking out territory for one's self.  We have a couple cities that we patrol, and coming near them means that a lot of people are going to die. 

Most recently four of us set an ambush for a group of three that were looting our city.  We first saw them sneaking through the city mostly obscurred by buildings.  Guessing that they may enter this huge horse stable, we set up an ambush on the opposite end of it waiting for them to emerge.  They didn't.  I go prone and crawl towards the stable, zombies are shambling within 10 feet of  me.  As I approach the entrance to the stable, one of our squad members yells "You got zombies on you!"  I stand up and run into the stable with my MP5 at the ready.  No survivors inside.  10 or so zombies come in for me but we easily dispatch them. 

We have lost our prey at this point though.  We withdraw from the city and crawl prone through the grass towards a nearby military base.  We find the base cleared of zombies and looted of ammunition.  Exiting the base we crawl further along the city outskirts.  Then we spotted them.  We engaged in a field of haystacks.  Our squad leader had us all sight in on a guy who was messing around doing something in the field.  We opened up on him with 2 AK-74's and an MP5.  He drops.  A second guy pops out from behind a hay stack at about 150 meters.  I suppress him with an MP5 until i can get my squad mates to redirect on him with rifles.  As the second guy goes down I hear a loud bang, and my screen tells me that I am dead.  Apparently they had a sniper in the hay field as well.  Another bang and a second member of our squad goes down.  A third bang, and a third member drops though he is unconscious with shock rather than dead.  On teamspeak he screams for an epi pen.  Our only unharmed member stabs him full of adhrenaline and then takes off running.  The sniper sights in on the runner but can't hit him.  The revived and wounded rifleman sneaks around behind the sniper and executes him.  Victory.  Our survivors loot their bodies for beans and ammo. 

How did you guys manage to link up with each other though?

I've been trying to play with my brother, but we can never tell where we are in conjunction to each other at the initial spawn points.

MMO's played: Ragnarok Online (For years), WoW (for a few weeks only), Guild Wars, Lineage 2, Eve, Allods, Shattered Galaxy, 9 Dragons, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Star Trek Online (Got someone ELSE to pay for it), Champions Online (Someone else paid), Dofus, Dragonica, LOTRO, DDO and more... A LOT more. I've played good AND bad. The bad didn't last long. :P

  Gibbonici

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5/22/12 12:47:23 AM#135
Originally posted by Tyroki
Originally posted by BigHatLogan

+1 on Dayz.  I've been playing for a couple weeks now and this isn't something that is going to get boring.  Rocket has been churning out patches pretty quickly, fixing a lot of things and testing the overall number of zombies and their respawn timers.  My MnB clan decided to start playing and things have gotten pretty epic.  We went the bandit route and kill and murder other players, usually hanging out in the middle areas of the map.  We have built vehicles.  We have engaged in extremely tense firefights with other organized bandits.  We have set ambushes, we have cleared entire cities of zombies.  The next step really comes down to marking out territory for one's self.  We have a couple cities that we patrol, and coming near them means that a lot of people are going to die. 

Most recently four of us set an ambush for a group of three that were looting our city.  We first saw them sneaking through the city mostly obscurred by buildings.  Guessing that they may enter this huge horse stable, we set up an ambush on the opposite end of it waiting for them to emerge.  They didn't.  I go prone and crawl towards the stable, zombies are shambling within 10 feet of  me.  As I approach the entrance to the stable, one of our squad members yells "You got zombies on you!"  I stand up and run into the stable with my MP5 at the ready.  No survivors inside.  10 or so zombies come in for me but we easily dispatch them. 

We have lost our prey at this point though.  We withdraw from the city and crawl prone through the grass towards a nearby military base.  We find the base cleared of zombies and looted of ammunition.  Exiting the base we crawl further along the city outskirts.  Then we spotted them.  We engaged in a field of haystacks.  Our squad leader had us all sight in on a guy who was messing around doing something in the field.  We opened up on him with 2 AK-74's and an MP5.  He drops.  A second guy pops out from behind a hay stack at about 150 meters.  I suppress him with an MP5 until i can get my squad mates to redirect on him with rifles.  As the second guy goes down I hear a loud bang, and my screen tells me that I am dead.  Apparently they had a sniper in the hay field as well.  Another bang and a second member of our squad goes down.  A third bang, and a third member drops though he is unconscious with shock rather than dead.  On teamspeak he screams for an epi pen.  Our only unharmed member stabs him full of adhrenaline and then takes off running.  The sniper sights in on the runner but can't hit him.  The revived and wounded rifleman sneaks around behind the sniper and executes him.  Victory.  Our survivors loot their bodies for beans and ammo. 

How did you guys manage to link up with each other though?

I've been trying to play with my brother, but we can never tell where we are in conjunction to each other at the initial spawn points.


Download a map of Chernarus, figure out where you are on it from landmarks then coordinate a rendezvous point over TS. It's a ballache for sure and undermines the no starting map thing, but I'd like to think that further into development we'll be able to select a spawn zone to make it easier.

  Corehaven

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5/22/12 12:55:13 AM#136

I looked at videos of the DayZ mod and it looked really awesome.  Then I looked at Arma2 general multiplayer videos and I'm even more blown away.  I can only see playing DayZ once you get a little burned out on the core multiplayer and thats really understandable.  Probably a breath of fresh air for long time Arma players. 

 

So by golly I want to buy Arma 2 and play it!  I want Arma2 Combined Operations!  But but....then I find out Arma 3 is coming out fairly soon.  AAAAAAHHH!!!!  So now.....now....sniff.....I dont know WHAT to do! 

  Tyroki

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5/22/12 1:15:42 AM#137
Originally posted by Corehaven

I looked at videos of the DayZ mod and it looked really awesome.  Then I looked at Arma2 general multiplayer videos and I'm even more blown away.  I can only see playing DayZ once you get a little burned out on the core multiplayer and thats really understandable.  Probably a breath of fresh air for long time Arma players. 

 

So by golly I want to buy Arma 2 and play it!  I want Arma2 Combined Operations!  But but....then I find out Arma 3 is coming out fairly soon.  AAAAAAHHH!!!!  So now.....now....sniff.....I dont know WHAT to do! 

Buy Arma 2 Combined Operations, knowing that even after Arma 3 is out, DayZ will still be amazing.

After all, they said it would be at least a year or so before DayZ could be made for Arma 3. So no loss =D

MMO's played: Ragnarok Online (For years), WoW (for a few weeks only), Guild Wars, Lineage 2, Eve, Allods, Shattered Galaxy, 9 Dragons, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Star Trek Online (Got someone ELSE to pay for it), Champions Online (Someone else paid), Dofus, Dragonica, LOTRO, DDO and more... A LOT more. I've played good AND bad. The bad didn't last long. :P

  Corehaven

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5/22/12 1:28:53 AM#138
Originally posted by Tyroki
Originally posted by Corehaven

I looked at videos of the DayZ mod and it looked really awesome.  Then I looked at Arma2 general multiplayer videos and I'm even more blown away.  I can only see playing DayZ once you get a little burned out on the core multiplayer and thats really understandable.  Probably a breath of fresh air for long time Arma players. 

 

So by golly I want to buy Arma 2 and play it!  I want Arma2 Combined Operations!  But but....then I find out Arma 3 is coming out fairly soon.  AAAAAAHHH!!!!  So now.....now....sniff.....I dont know WHAT to do! 

Buy Arma 2 Combined Operations, knowing that even after Arma 3 is out, DayZ will still be amazing.

After all, they said it would be at least a year or so before DayZ could be made for Arma 3. So no loss =D

But see....its a problem because as cool as DayZ looks, for now, Id probably spend more time just playing general Arma 2 multiplayer (having never played it ) because I think it just looks incredible.  It might honestly be a year before I even got into DayZ in a heavier way.  

 

Im also worried that if I spend the money and get Arma 2 as soon as 3 releases all the players will flock to that!  So how many months of Arma 2 will I enjoy before I have to go buy Arma 3 anyways?  And would I just be better off waiting and geting Arma 3 for that reason!?  

 

And when I think about it, it goes in circles and I cant.....I cant.....I figure if I just wait in confusion long enough Arma 3 will come out and I could just get that.  But then I dont really know if Arma 3 is going to be better than 2.  Arma 3 looked a little different.  From what little game play I saw it somehow seemed more simple.  More user friendly while Arma 2 seemed more hardcore and I liked the challenge of Arma 2 or at least what I saw. 

 

So Im entirely confused.  But thanks for the reply......

  vee41

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5/22/12 1:48:09 AM#139
Originally posted by Corehaven

I looked at videos of the DayZ mod and it looked really awesome.  Then I looked at Arma2 general multiplayer videos and I'm even more blown away.  I can only see playing DayZ once you get a little burned out on the core multiplayer and thats really understandable.  Probably a breath of fresh air for long time Arma players. 

 

So by golly I want to buy Arma 2 and play it!  I want Arma2 Combined Operations!  But but....then I find out Arma 3 is coming out fairly soon.  AAAAAAHHH!!!!  So now.....now....sniff.....I dont know WHAT to do! 

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't some basic version of ARMA2 free?

  Corehaven

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5/22/12 1:56:05 AM#140
Originally posted by vee41
Originally posted by Corehaven

I looked at videos of the DayZ mod and it looked really awesome.  Then I looked at Arma2 general multiplayer videos and I'm even more blown away.  I can only see playing DayZ once you get a little burned out on the core multiplayer and thats really understandable.  Probably a breath of fresh air for long time Arma players. 

 

So by golly I want to buy Arma 2 and play it!  I want Arma2 Combined Operations!  But but....then I find out Arma 3 is coming out fairly soon.  AAAAAAHHH!!!!  So now.....now....sniff.....I dont know WHAT to do! 

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't some basic version of ARMA2 free?

Yea the basic is free.  Id rather just go in for Combined Operations if I get the game at all.   The free version had some sort of limitation but I dont remember what it is now.  Either its multiplayer only, or its campaign only.  Or has some sort of limitations on one or the other. 

 

I think I'll like the game, so Im interested in a full version, but if Arma 3 is coming out soon, I might rather have that since I can only figure a lot of arma 2 players may flock to it.   Honestly?  I dont mean to tick anyone off.....I think Arma 2 looks better than what little Ive seen of Arma 3.  Even graphically.  I know Im nuts.  But then again I dont really want to purchase a dying game either. 

 

But you are right indeed.  You can get a version of Arma 2 free. 

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