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  User Deleted
5/12/12 9:42:37 AM#41

I've put a number of people on ignore in TERA, and that really helped things immensely.  In fact, if you take those clowns out of the mix TERA actually has a number of happy, helpful people playing it in my experience.

 

But yeah, TERA's starting island makes TOR's Dromund Kaas and WoW's Crossroads look like decent places to hang out by comparison.

  Ivylena

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5/12/12 11:05:17 AM#42
Originally posted by Volkon

Tera will be one of the last nails in the coffin of the kill-ten-rat static worlds.

Actually GW2 will be. Quote me now. I will be back and say "I told you so." If I am wrong, I will also come back and eat pigs feet. :)

Book it!

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  Cursedsei

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5/12/12 11:19:10 AM#43

Honestly I'm going to have to agree about TERA not being a part of the "future", at least in my opinion.

The opening "tutorial" was light on the tutorial and heavy on disjointed and awkward to me.

And the worst way to start the game, is to give me not just one quest chain, but two, right at the start that play out like this.

Story Quest 1: Hey, go down the hill and talk to the person just before the bridge!

Side quest next to SQ1: Hey, talk to this person who is a little ways back from the bridge!

Story Qest 2: Hey, go across the bridge and talk to this guy!

Side Quest 2: Hey, go across the bridge and talk to this guy too! Side quest done.

Story Quest 3: Hey, go kill those trees, they've been acting weird and we don't know why.

Story Quest 4: Hey, go kill those same trees again, and collect some branches, they've been acting weird and we don't know why.

 

 

So. Much. Freaking! REDUNDANCY!!

I also wasn't all that impressed with the active combat. At least for the class I was playing, its not all that active when you have just the left mouse button to spam over and over. Other games at least give you some starter skills to use at the beginning. Honestly I was more impressed by RaiderZ (god awful name excluded) than by Tera.

As for the graphics? Sure they are pretty, but they are running on the Unreal Engine. That thing makes it easy to have "OOO PRETTY" Graphics at the cost of texture pop-ins, and none of the games. NONE. Have ever been able to avoid that. It'll only get worse in an active environment like an MMO.

  Lord_Athon

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OP  5/12/12 3:50:53 PM#44
Originally posted by joocheese
Originally posted by lordathon

Not trolling about a title... just the game types.

What we are expecting is just what we all want to see and experience. Even when some of us dont want to say it.

- Excelent graphics

- Major excelence for the game engine

- great speed conection servers

- large community...

- no bugs (ok, those stupid walls...)

- Ok... those instanced territories are not so great. Really, on a Pk world with an instanced environment. what did u meant guys?

I think action play base for MMORPG  is for the moment the real thing. All the rest is just more of the same.

I know the questy base is a bit stupid, but is a way. Hopping for news from the eldest/eastern world, like always on this business.

I was hoping a bit of mix classes (hmm gw2, lol), but ok im "old school" and i wanted a more complicated game, but it's ok.

btw..im a 20+y gamer... just a bit respect for my opinion. ^-^

Not trolling about a title... just the game types.

nice gaming

Edit: the SW in the title meant for "The Secret World", or you know what...

your biggest and most important problem lordathon is not your understanding of mmorpgs or their various gameplay systems, but rather... that you're a Benfica fan!

Hmmm ^-^

Disagree =)

  User Deleted
5/12/12 3:54:36 PM#45
Originally posted by xposeidon

Um... how about immersive, interesting, detailed, complex, variety, choice, innovative, explorable, but above all... fun? I guess players are not expecting this anymore?

I agree and it doesnt seem games are going to have that. Its just my opinion but the MMORPG is dead. Thank you WoW! I blame you and all the 12 years olds who played it.

  Lord_Athon

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OP  5/12/12 3:56:24 PM#46
Originally posted by sonoggi

OP is a big fat troll. everyone knows GW2 is the future.

I started to say that

Not trolling about a title... just the game types

My opinio, and is just it, is that the instanced game type isnt good on a mmo, and i do like the sensation of pk (near lvls, not ganking).

  hikaru77

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5/12/12 3:56:39 PM#47

http://tera.enmasse.com/server-status 

Thats tera server status, like 3 weeks after launch, and ¨recommended¨ mean ¨Low¨.   Yes tera is the future.

  SoulOfRaziel

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5/12/12 3:58:40 PM#48
Originally posted by lordathon

Not trolling about a title... just the game types.

What we are expecting is just what we all want to see and experience. Even when some of us dont want to say it.

- Excelent graphics

- Major excelence for the game engine

- great speed conection servers

- large community...

- no bugs (ok, those stupid walls...)

- Ok... those instanced territories are not so great. Really, on a Pk world with an instanced environment. what did u meant guys?

I think action play base for MMORPG  is for the moment the real thing. All the rest is just more of the same.

I know the questy base is a bit stupid, but is a way. Hopping for news from the eldest/eastern world, like always on this business.

I was hoping a bit of mix classes (hmm gw2, lol), but ok im "old school" and i wanted a more complicated game, but it's ok.

btw..im a 20+y gamer... just a bit respect for my opinion. ^-^

Not trolling about a title... just the game types.

nice gaming

 

Edit: the SW in the title meant for "The Secret World", or you know what...

I do not agree =] i htink that the only thing tera have that may be used in future mmorpg is the combat.... the rest of it is just not good enough. Well thats only what i think

PS: i am currently playing tera so it does not mean i dnot like it...

 

 

  Jayaris

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Hi

5/12/12 3:59:05 PM#49

The only thing I don't like about GW2 is the combat system.

Hi

  Lord_Athon

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OP  5/12/12 4:12:42 PM#50

This was (till now) a nice discussion, but what i meant was technical features of a game like Tera, not that specific game.

I enjoy it, specially the combat system, but obviously (looking for my signature) that i trully expect great things for GW2. Even it doesnt have the pk system, that i do like (not ganking low lvls).

Btw, why for some people is so disturbing someone asks respect for their opinion? why is that?!

  arieste

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5/12/12 4:19:02 PM#51
Originally posted by lordathon

Btw, why for some people is so disturbing someone asks respect for their opinion? why is that?!

Because asking for respect is pointless.  Respect is earned.  If your opinion earns people's respect, you will have it.  If it doesn't, it won't.  Simple as that.

 

Regarding, TERA, i disagree with most of your post.  I found questing and NPC dialogue in general to be terrible.  It's an asian game though, so it's written for asian audiences.  I can only assume that people from easterns cultures find the setting / story / npcs to be acceptable.  I had the same problem with AION, it was just awful.  From your signature on the other hand, i see that AION is your favourite game.  I can definitely see how someone who enjoyed AION would like TERA, as it basically IS AION, only with more interactive combat.

 

I found the combat rather boring and clumsy personally,  but i am not a fan of "free-aim" combat mechanics in the first place.  And of course i only played the very early levels.  

 

Graphics looked good, but the art style was a bit over the top for me.  I prefer a bit more realistic.

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5/12/12 5:03:43 PM#52
Originally posted by Jessina
Originally posted by Volkon

Tera will be one of the last nails in the coffin of the kill-ten-rat static worlds.

Actually GW2 will be. Quote me now. I will be back and say "I told you so." If I am wrong, I will also come back and eat pigs feet. :)

Book it!

    I think we're both saying the same thing from the opposite direction. I see the way Tera took the standard KTR quests and actually found a way to make them even more boring will, by comparison with GW2's DEs, have gamers of the "future" decide that that's simply not good enough anymore. There's no reason for Bob the NPC to have to stand there with a "!" over his head waiting for people to interact with him so he can get his ten livers. From everyone. Always needing livers. Too bad not all the boars have livers. Sigh...  Anyhoo, this is the era when KTR questing and static worlds grinds to a halt. Everyone will realize that worlds can be alive, dynamic and eventful, and no one will have to settle for that anymore unless they choose to.

    I for one will never have to settle again. GW2 single-handedly killed all other MMOs to me.

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  Angier2758

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5/12/12 5:57:01 PM#53
Originally posted by Volkon

Tera will be one of the last nails in the coffin of the kill-ten-rat static worlds.

I dunno... they did get combat right.

 

Not even remotely kidding.... they did an awesome job.  Like hits look like hits... mobs getting smacked backwards and active blocking...

 

 

That being said... the story is just lame as heck.  The open pvp part somewhat makes up for it.  I'm lvl 17 currently.. if it were truly terrible Id be out before 10.

  helthros

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5/12/12 6:00:11 PM#54

If nothing else I just hope developers continue to build on the combat.

  Angier2758

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5/12/12 6:00:50 PM#55
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Jessina
Originally posted by Volkon

Tera will be one of the last nails in the coffin of the kill-ten-rat static worlds.

Actually GW2 will be. Quote me now. I will be back and say "I told you so." If I am wrong, I will also come back and eat pigs feet. :)

Book it!

    I think we're both saying the same thing from the opposite direction. I see the way Tera took the standard KTR quests and actually found a way to make them even more boring will, by comparison with GW2's DEs, have gamers of the "future" decide that that's simply not good enough anymore. There's no reason for Bob the NPC to have to stand there with a "!" over his head waiting for people to interact with him so he can get his ten livers. From everyone. Always needing livers. Too bad not all the boars have livers. Sigh...  Anyhoo, this is the era when KTR questing and static worlds grinds to a halt. Everyone will realize that worlds can be alive, dynamic and eventful, and no one will have to settle for that anymore unless they choose to.

    I for one will never have to settle again. GW2 single-handedly killed all other MMOs to me.

People say that about every game they are looking forward too.  I'll give GW2 a go, but unless you're new to the scene..... there's a HIGH probability it'll be a shadow of what you think it will be.

For me I'm hoping GW2's combat is better than Tera's......  I want dodging and blocking to be spot on... collision detection etc.

  Konner920

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5/12/12 6:02:37 PM#56

yeah... Tera isn't the future. Generic quests, repetitive combat, high levels ganking low levels. It's one of the worst mmos I've ever played. SWTOR? Also not the future. Neither is the secret world. I love the secret world, but it's made for a niche market it seems. Its not for everyone. But it's the only interesting game that I've seen release.

  Angier2758

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5/12/12 6:02:51 PM#57
Originally posted by arieste
Originally posted by lordathon

Btw, why for some people is so disturbing someone asks respect for their opinion? why is that?!

Because asking for respect is pointless.  Respect is earned.  If your opinion earns people's respect, you will have it.  If it doesn't, it won't.  Simple as that.

 

Regarding, TERA, i disagree with most of your post.  I found questing and NPC dialogue in general to be terrible.  It's an asian game though, so it's written for asian audiences.  I can only assume that people from easterns cultures find the setting / story / npcs to be acceptable.  I had the same problem with AION, it was just awful.  From your signature on the other hand, i see that AION is your favourite game.  I can definitely see how someone who enjoyed AION would like TERA, as it basically IS AION, only with more interactive combat.

 

I found the combat rather boring and clumsy personally,  but i am not a fan of "free-aim" combat mechanics in the first place.  And of course i only played the very early levels.  

 

Graphics looked good, but the art style was a bit over the top for me.  I prefer a bit more realistic.

Everyone should be given a base level of respect unless they are outright bashing people.  You should respect other people's opinions unless they are purposely trying to piss people off.

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5/12/12 6:08:49 PM#58
Originally posted by Angier2758
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Jessina
Originally posted by Volkon

Tera will be one of the last nails in the coffin of the kill-ten-rat static worlds.

Actually GW2 will be. Quote me now. I will be back and say "I told you so." If I am wrong, I will also come back and eat pigs feet. :)

Book it!

    I think we're both saying the same thing from the opposite direction. I see the way Tera took the standard KTR quests and actually found a way to make them even more boring will, by comparison with GW2's DEs, have gamers of the "future" decide that that's simply not good enough anymore. There's no reason for Bob the NPC to have to stand there with a "!" over his head waiting for people to interact with him so he can get his ten livers. From everyone. Always needing livers. Too bad not all the boars have livers. Sigh...  Anyhoo, this is the era when KTR questing and static worlds grinds to a halt. Everyone will realize that worlds can be alive, dynamic and eventful, and no one will have to settle for that anymore unless they choose to.

    I for one will never have to settle again. GW2 single-handedly killed all other MMOs to me.

People say that about every game they are looking forward too.  I'll give GW2 a go, but unless you're new to the scene..... there's a HIGH probability it'll be a shadow of what you think it will be.

For me I'm hoping GW2's combat is better than Tera's......  I want dodging and blocking to be spot on... collision detection etc.

If that's what you're looking for, then I think you will be disappointed with GW2's combat.

The dodging doesn't go by collisions.  Basically, if you dodge, you will simply not be hit by any attack...regardless of if it collides with you or not.  Tera's combat is actually closer to what you describe, everything being based on collisions.

GW2 is more like a hybrid between FPS combat and tab-target.  It has elements of both, and it also has a lot of ground targeting.  Tera is closer to FPS than MMORPG IMO.

Personally, I prefer GW2, but if you want something more akin to FPS combat than you may be disappointed.

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5/12/12 6:18:04 PM#59

People say that about every game they are looking forward too.  I'll give GW2 a go, but unless you're new to the scene..... there's a HIGH probability it'll be a shadow of what you think it will be.

For me I'm hoping GW2's combat is better than Tera's......  I want dodging and blocking to be spot on... collision detection etc.

If that's what you're looking for, then I think you will be disappointed with GW2's combat.

The dodging doesn't go by collisions.  Basically, if you dodge, you will simply not be hit by any attack...regardless of if it collides with you or not.  Tera's combat is actually closer to what you describe, everything being based on collisions.

GW2 is more like a hybrid between FPS combat and tab-target.  It has elements of both, and it also has a lot of ground targeting.  Tera is closer to FPS than MMORPG IMO.

Personally, I prefer GW2, but if you want something more akin to FPS combat than you may be disappointed.

Yeah people can rip on Tera, but for me the combat is just spot on... like I can last second block and it will actually block.  The fighting is NOT boring by any means... maybe if you just stood still and spammed 1 attack.  I play a lancer and I've noticed a lot of depth with the abilities... like being able to change directions mid combo or abilities that can be stationary or allow you to move as a gap closer.

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5/12/12 6:18:11 PM#60

Oh no. The battle of the themeparks.

Its like watching 3 nerds fighting over who gets to be luke skywalker when they fake swordfight.

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