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General Discussion  » Decent game...horrendous quest system

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OP  5/11/12 3:58:06 PM#1

you can only have three active spend so much time running back and forth that even kingsmouth thats supposedly smallest questing zone in game feels HUGE and tedious.




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5/11/12 4:16:33 PM#3
Originally posted by bloodaxes


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5/11/12 5:51:20 PM#4
Originally posted by kishe

you can only have three active spend so much time running back and forth that even kingsmouth thats supposedly smallest questing zone in game feels HUGE and tedious.



I'm a contrarist by nature, but I have rarely disagreed with a statement more than I disagree with this.

Because of this deliberate questing design, for the first time in a themepark MMO I am paying attention to what the f*** I am doing. Almost every quest is considerably more involved than even the best of MMO's questing content, and it doesn't try to distract you with 15 other things to do as your passing by. And I have never spent so much time investigating my environment, and trying to figure things out. Especially on the puzzle quests, one of which I spent about 2 hours on last night and could not figure out past the second stage.

Quests should not be a list of chores for you to set about doing in the most time-economical means possible. They should be something you have to focus on single-mindedly to achieve.

TSW does not have a perfect implementation of quests. It also has horribly inconsistent writing, some of the worst looking characters ever, inconsistent VO, and this senseless jarring thing where your main character doesn't talk or emote in any way and gets monologues from every NPC anyway. There is a lot of moving around in the same enviornment (which might be a good thing), and far more downtime than is reasonable.

However, TSW's quests are FAR FAR better than anything else this broken-ass genre has to offer. Shame on you for wanting popcorn quests.


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5/11/12 5:53:28 PM#5

Same as other thread. . NDA correct?

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5/11/12 6:00:00 PM#6
Originally posted by Aethaeryn

Same as other thread. . NDA correct?

No NDA as of today.


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5/11/12 6:01:38 PM#7

Don't remember signing any NDA as beta weekend participant.


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5/11/12 6:12:25 PM#8

1 main quest. 1 npc quest and 3 misc quests.

It ain't great and I hope they change it but it's managable.


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5/11/12 10:29:12 PM#9

The questing system is designed to tell a story with each quest, and it does it rather well... unless you gather all the quest together and try to do em all at once as if they were some type of vending mashine, then you make threads like this.

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5/11/12 10:35:24 PM#10
Originally posted by Aethaeryn

Same as other thread. . NDA correct?

From a stickied mod post on the official forums:


"May 11th at 9 AM PDT is when the weekend beta event officially starts. There is no NDA covering this event after it starts, so feel free to tell your friends, neighbors, co-workers, anyone who will listen about your experiences. Screenshots and videos are welcome. From what I've heard, we're going to have a few streams up by various members of the community as well. Also, feel free to discuss things regarding the weekend beta event in the newly created sub-forum. "

Hope that helps. :)



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5/11/12 10:38:42 PM#11

The few quests I did were quite good and involved. If they are like that then I see no problem with only have 3 active quests.


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5/11/12 10:39:28 PM#12

I too think it needs changing but this post on the official forums can at least shed some light on the reasons behind it being the way it is:



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5/12/12 12:17:26 AM#13

I prefer it to be quite honest, it gives people a better focus on things altough I can see how it can quickly become a majoy annoynace. 


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5/12/12 3:49:39 AM#14
Originally posted by Aethaeryn

Same as other thread. . NDA correct?

NDA dropped as of today for the DEMO. However, you're not allowed to talk about end-game stuff.

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5/12/12 5:02:16 AM#15
Originally posted by kishe

you can only have three active spend so much time running back and forth that even kingsmouth thats supposedly smallest questing zone in game feels HUGE and tedious.



 Thats intentional..You could have found that out by "asking" ..since you are playing the game..

This game is not for you then.

It tries to focus you on what you are doing..By NOT letting you have 15 quests in the same area(like SWTOR for example) it gets very confusing and un immersive if you have many quests at once in one area..

This is what I disliked about SWOTOR since they focused so much on story , I ran around and , in the end I didnt know what the hell I was doing , part from killing stuff and running left and right..



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5/12/12 12:28:43 PM#16

TSW is supposed to be based in our world, albeit one where magic and monsters exist. It makes sense not to have a 20+ long to-do list for an area. You go out and do a few tasks then come back. Also, there's exploration in this game. You find things lying around in the game world to do. Oh look, here's a weird thing what's this? You click on it and next thing you know you've just spent 20-30 minutes running around investigating something.

A lot of people are tired of the same old WoW style questing systems and I for one find the TSW's quest system more interesting than any other game out there. It's not about the race to end game, it's about the story and the world around you. If you want the next progression of WoW style games than TSW probably isn't for you.


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5/12/12 12:29:53 PM#17
Originally posted by kartool

TSW is supposed to be based in our world, albeit one where magic and monsters exist. It makes sense not to have a 20+ long to-do list for an area. You go out and do a few tasks then come back. Also, there's exploration in this game. You find things lying around in the game world to do. Oh look, here's a weird thing what's this? You click on it and next thing you know you've just spent 20-30 minutes running around investigating something.

A lot of people are tired of the same old WoW style questing systems and I for one find the TSW's quest system more interesting than any other game out there. It's not about the race to end game, it's about the story and the world around you. If you wants the next progression of WoW style games than TSW probably isn't for you.

sort of a silly argument its also the same reason they gave for no stealth type abilities.. yet I can shoot lightning from my finger tips.. yea ok

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5/12/12 12:34:59 PM#18

The questing system frustrated me to all hell for first.


After finding out a few things, I like it. Having it NOT be the same old PB&J sammich every day is refreshing. Like some have said, it's not the same WoW system...YAY!!

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5/12/12 12:37:39 PM#19

The five-quest limit is bad.  It can be fanwanked as much as one wants, but at the end of the day it's an arbitrary limit that artificially increases the amount of time spent in a zone by increasing the amount of hoofing one ends up doing...the exact same complaint MANY people have had about TOR's habit of making the player cover large tracts of ground repeatedly.  The annoyance is only going to grow on subsequent playthroughs.


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5/12/12 12:40:54 PM#20
The questing system could be a bit more flexible, but as many are activated by exploration it would get messy very fast otherwise. It is about getting to know the area/npcs very well, like the sets/characters of a TV show. The visual and technical bugs are very numerous, but personally, I think this mmo is a flawed and cracked jewel among the highly polished turds of mmo mediocrity.
Most npcs don’t give more than 3-4 quests anyway, each one with cut-scenes and story, they would all blur unless separated. The back and forth is minor really when you get used to managed the missions.
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