Listened to the whole thing. He likes the questing system but the rest is pretty much what most people are saying. Which is ofcourse disappointing.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0aSSioAzc&feature=uploademail

One of my main beefs is that the combat wont be like the single players, which I actually enjoy. I really disagree with the 'elder scrolls combat sucks' comment I knew I didnt care what he said after that.

I love listening and reading other people tell me what I will like.

the things he says 'will never happen in an MMO' already do happen in some MMOs.

plus, I dont think TES fans hold very dearly to the fact that its a single player game. For me that is a low factor.

Originally posted by Varking

I love listening and reading other people tell me what I will like.

By your logic, anytime anyone has told you their opinion on anything was them telling you what yours should be. Have you ever had a, you know, discussion about something? It's about sharing thoughts, not dictating the thoughts of others. 

Originally posted by Darth-Ninja

One of my main beefs is that the combat wont be like the single players, which I actually enjoy. I really disagree with the 'elder scrolls combat sucks' comment I knew I didnt care what he said after that.

I know alot of others agree with you but I honestly hate the way TES does its combat.  Theres something awfully boring about left clicking your mouse button a million times.  I might be in the minority but I love hotbar tab targetting combat because it allows the players almost unlimited freedom in having combat skills.  I look at it like this, you can have 1 combat ability (left mouse click) or 12+ abilities (like in WoW).

I love that the first thing he says is that it is NOT Bethesda making this game.  That is what I have been trying to tell everyone since this announcement first happened lol.

Originally posted by Mephster

Listened to the whole thing. He likes the questing system but the rest is pretty much what most people are saying. Which is ofcourse disappointing.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0aSSioAzc&feature=uploademail

You know what the real kicker is?  They could have relseased ESO as an expansion to Skyrim and rocked everybody's world.  In fact, some players are doing that right now!

Originally posted by Souldrainer

Originally posted by Mephster

Listened to the whole thing. He likes the questing system but the rest is pretty much what most people are saying. Which is ofcourse disappointing.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0aSSioAzc&feature=uploademail

You know what the real kicker is?  They could have relseased ESO as an expansion to Skyrim and rocked everybody's world.  In fact, some players are doing that right now!

yup.

The could have provided for a fee server space, repopulated the Morrowind area of the map with models. Then players could upload their world and have a few hunderd people in their Skyrim instance and everyone would be stunned.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Darth-Ninja

One of my main beefs is that the combat wont be like the single players, which I actually enjoy. I really disagree with the 'elder scrolls combat sucks' comment I knew I didnt care what he said after that.

I know alot of others agree with you but I honestly hate the way TES does its combat.  Theres something awfully boring about left clicking your mouse button a million times.  I might be in the minority but I love hotbar tab targetting combat because it allows the players almost unlimited freedom in having combat skills.  I look at it like this, you can have 1 combat ability (left mouse click) or 12+ abilities (like in WoW).

The mechanics behind their swordplay have improved from Morrowind.  That doesn't change the fact it is still pretty imprecise.  I find their archery mechanics a bit more satisfying, even if it takes a little bit of getting used to establishing range properly.

i dont really care about anyone's impressions regarding this game. there isnt enough information out to make an educated decision about it. people are either flaming or seeking attention.

if they pull off decent 3-faction PVP with a traditional combat system, then the game will be a success in some respects.

What's sad is that it is possible for an ES experience in MMO form. Look up Mortal Online or Darkfall. Mortal's more like it though.

Originally posted by sonoggi

i dont really care about anyone's impressions regarding this game. there isnt enough information out to make an educated decision about it. people are either flaming or seeking attention.

if they pull off decent 3-faction PVP with a traditional combat system, then the game will be a success in some respects.

On this site really all people need is for a game to be announced for them to feverently love it or hate it. Sad but true.

Does anyone else seeing the Irony of someone playing a turn based combat system talking about how the current hotkey combat system is going to die away?

Originally posted by gotha

Does anyone else seeing the Irony of someone playing a turn based combat system talking about how the current hotkey combat system is going to die away?

chess is turned based, checkers is turned based, traditional pen and paper RPG is turned based, Slient Storm is turned based.

Not an MMO.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by gotha

Does anyone else seeing the Irony of someone playing a turn based combat system talking about how the current hotkey combat system is going to die away?

chess is turned based, checkers is turned based, traditional pen and paper RPG is turned based, Slient Storm is turned based.

Not an MMO.

I did not say MMOs have turned based combat systems,  learn to read.  His comments about MMOs combat being dead is just not true.  His history is even incorrect.   MMO combat did not come about due to latency restrictions,  it came about due to it growing from traditional RPG combat (like you see in neverwinter,  saw in dragon age 1 and slightly 2,  baldurs gate).  Merdian actually had combat similar to what he wants for elder scrolls and that came out in 1995.

I am pretty sure you will continue to see big budget hot key MMOs.  Rift has been success,  and swtor while not being the second WoW has done decently.  You also already have  a few big budget hotkey MMOs in the pipelines and i am pretty sure more will come.

You will continue to see growth of action oriented MMOs,  and the hot key MMOs will likely not grow much further but they will continue to excist and be made.

Originally posted by gotha

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Originally posted by gotha

Does anyone else seeing the Irony of someone playing a turn based combat system talking about how the current hotkey combat system is going to die away?

chess is turned based, checkers is turned based, traditional pen and paper RPG is turned based, Slient Storm is turned based.

Not an MMO.

I did not say MMOs have turned based combat systems,  learn to read.  His comments about MMOs combat being dead is just not true.  His history is even incorrect.   MMO combat did not come about due to latency restrictions,  it came about due to it growing from traditional RPG combat (like you see in neverwinter,  saw in dragon age 1 and slightly 2,  baldurs gate).  Merdian actually had combat similar to what he wants for elder scrolls and that came out in 1995.

I am pretty sure you will continue to see big budget hot key MMOs.  Rift has been success,  and swtor while not being the second WoW has done decently.  You also already have  a few big budget hotkey MMOs in the pipelines and i am pretty sure more will come.

You will continue to see growth of action oriented MMOs,  and the hot key MMOs will likely not grow much further but they will continue to excist and be made.

 

 

I am completely and totally confused at the moment.

TES Online is going to be turned based like REAL turn based like chess, D&D etc. Reason I ask is because some people now have been calling tab targetings 'turned based' which p*sses me off and it causes a lot of confusion

Originally posted by Mephster

Listened to the whole thing. He likes the questing system but the rest is pretty much what most people are saying. Which is ofcourse disappointing.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0aSSioAzc&feature=uploademail

I hate you for pointing out that there is something that jackass and I agree with...yes, I called him a jackass...anyone that dares to state that someone is playing an MMORPG the wrong way and that only his way of playing is the right way is a total jackass...even more so for doing it over many posts on his own Youtube video.

I mean seriously...arguing with people, not one person, but many over the right way to play on a video thread.

Why would you want to play Skyrim as it is as an MMORPG? Its made for single player and there isn't enough to do with other players.People need to get it out of thier heads that any ESO game is going to be anything at all gamewise to any of thier single player games,it just wouldn't work.

Originally posted by Varking

I love listening and reading other people tell me what I will like.

^ this

the scary thing is most people form their opinions from other people.