Originally posted by Elikal

Interesting.

Aww, it brought a bit a tear to my eyes. I still can't believe that let the thrice damned Charr be playable! They invaded and murdered and stole our lands! I will not rest till I see the last Charr dead!! Muahahaha. *shakes fist* XD

 

EDIT: Oh my, after watching most of it, it kinda confirmed my fears that GW2 involves A LOT of dying. Somehow it seemed to me your characters were dead every few moments. :(

This is because they were trying to tank and spank too much.  You really can't do that against a champion level mob unless you take a very specific combination of builds.

With a combination of cripples/stuns and some movement they would have done much better.  In fact that I don't they realized that captain was a champion at first.

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by megera23

Originally posted by Elikal

EDIT: Oh my, after watching most of it, it kinda confirmed my fears that GW2 involves A LOT of dying. Somehow it seemed to me your characters were dead every few moments. :(

Take into consideration the fact that some of the people are level 28 and the dungeon is for lvl 30. From what I noticed during my playtime in the BWE, two levels make a huge difference when it comes to the difficulty. :)

Well, not to play devil's advocate, but that was only the story-mode. That's basically as easy as it's supposed to get, when it comes to dungeons.

GW1 was much the same way. Both games will challenge you, but you will be able to complete them if you try enough times. Also, make no mistake, dying IS a big part of this game. Except to die (or at least, be downed) a good amount of times as you're learning the game. However, unlike other games, it's not as big of a deal in this game as it is in other MMOs.

For example, even though Kaeyi's group members were dying quite often, they were still able to res quite frequently, and it's not an automatic fail if half your team dies.

This game will challenge you, but Anet also wants to make the game so that everyone can experience the main content if they put the time in. It'll be fine =)

That encoutner is clarly a "training" encounter since its so close to a spawn.

What you notice is that champions has a VERY damaging AoE.  The Key to that fight is clearly avoid that AoE.  He chases and then has a big hitter.  If can either circle kite him or cripple and dodge you would die probably not all.

If instead you have half your party in constant melee range you will probably die 40 times.

I didn't get to level 30 early enough to try this stuff :( Probably only about 5 hours left in the beta and I didn't even know where to go to get this started. I was looking forward to it, too v-v I hope we get to keep our characters, there's conflicting reports about whether we do or not, and I'd like to give this a go.

As someone with a heavy action game background, I want to see how much of this perceived difficulty is innate, as opposed to bad gaming habits (read: sitting there taking damage)

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

I didn't get to level 30 early enough to try this stuff :( Probably only about 5 hours left in the beta and I didn't even know where to go to get this started. I was looking forward to it, too v-v I hope we get to keep our characters, there's conflicting reports about whether we do or not, and I'd like to give this a go.

As someone with a heavy action game background, I want to see how much of this perceived difficulty is innate, as opposed to bad gaming habits (read: sitting there taking damage)

Well also being -2 to a mob means you take quite a bit more damage.  Its very noticable.

Originally posted by andre369

Originally posted by KaeyiDream

Originally posted by Homitu

Don't get me wrong.  I'm sure many of my deaths were similar.  I just don't think you should chalk it all up to being underleveled and not having your elite skills, like you did in the ToT podcast.  It's difficult--to be sure--but I don't think it's *too* difficult, even for level 28s.  

I dont think its is too difficult, we cleared the dungeon on our first time in there.

Its obviously not too difficult. :)

Yea on the ToT podcast the other guy said they didnt wipe once, so dont brand it super hard after 1 try^^

As for the videos the sound of you all, especially you Kaeyi is too loud compared to the ingame sound. Try make it lower next time:)