Originally posted by hikaru77

 

¨refreshing game feutures¨. Can you make me a list?, from what i saw, and is not just me probably everyone who have played warhammer, daoc and rift, there is nothing new or ¨refreshing¨ in gw2, and if they dont fix the performance issues by the next beta, be ready for a september-december release.

You know, people put that argument forward all the time...   But it's kind of dumb.   Just because someone had a concept, doesn't mean that great of a job in executing it.   So, let me take it away from games to make an analogy...  

There are only so many notes and chords one can use in a song.  Only so many instruments are available for use.  Only so many words in the English language with which to write lyrics.     And yet we get thousands of new songs, most of which are failures, every year.

And that's because some people try and they're able to write incredible music.   At least with some of their pieces.  Other people try and they can't, no matter how long they try.   Having been a CPA with a strong practice in the music industry, I found that (by far) most can't.    That's why they have day jobs.

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Almost done, yet so much work to do.. With Arenanet listening to people all around the globe and improving the game even more, its obvious to me that  this game wil not release pre summer 2012.

Not a big problem, and Arenanet can afford it with all the money they made from the pre purchases, there is no reason to rush. Pre-purchasing was an excellent idea, because in Arenanet we can trust. Have they told how many copies they pre-sold?  If they only sold as few as 200k Digital copies,  it will have made them well over 10M, which is enough to pay the bills.

With this attitude, GW2 might be up to sell WoW numbers of copies. Its a game aimed at a huge group of gamers, it has a lot of refreshing game feutures and Arenanet has the dedication to make it as good as possible.

 

Yes, its allmost done, but it will probably not release before early 4th quarter 2012, just in time to get enough possitive player attention to make a huge christmass sale on top of the initial sales.

 

¨refreshing game feutures¨. Can you make me a list?, from what i saw, and is not just me probably everyone who have played warhammer, daoc and rift, there is nothing new or ¨refreshing¨ in gw2, and if they dont fix the performance issues by the next beta, be ready for a september-december release.

The biggest one for me is the open-world dynamic events. Warhammer and Rift had some events that were dynamic, but they were localized and you still had the traditional linear quest hubs. You truly never need to look for a group to play with in GW2 as you'll get credit as long as you participate. Not once during the BWE did I ever feel like someone was impeding my progress, no I impeding them. That is a feature that I've never experienced in an MMO. There were always moments when someone "stole my kill", etc.

You will never see any " group looking for tank/healer/dps" in chat as there are none of the predefined archetypes in GW2. That feature alone will save us hours of trying to form a decent dungeon group.

The quick-travel system is the best I've ever seen. Most MMOs, you are bound to one point that you can recall to every 30-60 minutes. In GW2, you can teleport to anywhere you've unlocked for a small fee. You can get to anywhere in seconds.

So, those are three. There are others, but I just woke up. Brain no workie until my tea is ready. :P

it wont be june or july if guild wars 1 beta weekends are to go by. they went on over 4 months.

I very doub it will be fourth quater when people already have bought the game.

I think 2 more beta weekends and then release soon after my gues is end of june early july.

I hope offcorse and i wont say as OP it don't matter to me i hope its sooner then later.

They have worked for many years on game they have beta test it for couple of months now and let people fully purchase the game i think they have to released soon after.

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Originally posted by Istavaan
it wont be june or july if guild wars 1 beta weekends are to go by. they went on over 4 months.

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GW1 there was no prepurchase so was np to have 4 month weekends.

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Almost done, yet so much work to do.. With Arenanet listening to people all around the globe and improving the game even more, its obvious to me that  this game wil not release pre summer 2012.

Not a big problem, and Arenanet can afford it with all the money they made from the pre purchases, there is no reason to rush. Pre-purchasing was an excellent idea, because in Arenanet we can trust. Have they told how many copies they pre-sold?  If they only sold as few as 200k Digital copies,  it will have made them well over 10M, which is enough to pay the bills.

With this attitude, GW2 might be up to sell WoW numbers of copies. Its a game aimed at a huge group of gamers, it has a lot of refreshing game feutures and Arenanet has the dedication to make it as good as possible.

 

Yes, its allmost done, but it will probably not release before early 4th quarter 2012, just in time to get enough possitive player attention to make a huge christmass sale on top of the initial sales.

 

i totally agree with u ! gj Anet

My standard guess is always 3 months from the first beta, and this usually seems to play out, so I'm going for the end of July. 

That way ANet have got time to do another BWE end of May, and another mid June. This will give them a couple of weeks to get things ironed out before the game goes gold, then a month to tweak things for the inevitable release day game update.

Saying that, and I really hope this doesnt happen, ANet has a history of realeasing things in April or September. Clearly its not gonna be April..............but I really hope its not September

Propably after the summer to get as much initial sales as possible, further marketing the game. I know I wont be sitting as much in front of my computer or talking about games as I do when it's not summer.

Originally posted by Calerxes

The problem Ncsoft & Arenanet are facing now is that they have customers not just potential customers and the longer they leave it the more restless those customers will get and start shouting RELEASE THE FECKING THING NOW so my guess as with others is it'll be sooner rather than later bugs or no bugs. Get ready for the rollacoaster rides guys its going to be fun to watch and read 

and good riddance to the people who shout "release the game now".there probably the same bunch who are the reason why sw tor's doing so badly

but as long as its not duke nukem forever part 2 i dont care when it releases.although judging by the amount of people talking like playing video games in the summer is some abnormal thing,im probably just gonna give up the mmorpg genre altogether is gw2 is another casualfest like wow and go play somethin else.kinda tired of casuals ruining mmorpg after mmorpg

  Yeah, it's going to be September - either the 4th (which I doubt) or the 18th (which I've stood by for a year now :D)

if it was coming out in june they would have announced it by now..no way is this game coming out before august.

nevermind

Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

Originally posted by Calerxes

The problem Ncsoft & Arenanet are facing now is that they have customers not just potential customers and the longer they leave it the more restless those customers will get and start shouting RELEASE THE FECKING THING NOW so my guess as with others is it'll be sooner rather than later bugs or no bugs. Get ready for the rollacoaster rides guys its going to be fun to watch and read 

 

and good riddance to the people who shout "release the game now".there probably the same bunch who are the reason why sw tor's doing so badly

but as long as its not duke nukem forever part 2 i dont care when it releases.although judging by the amount of people talking like playing video games in the summer is some abnormal thing,im probably just gonna give up the mmorpg genre altogether is gw2 is another casualfest like wow and go play somethin else.kinda tired of casuals ruining mmorpg after mmorpg

 

 

 

 

But customers have rights and they'll use them people whinging and bleating on forums don't and thats the difference when you put your game up for pre-purchase rather than pre-order. SW:TOR was released early because of a very simple thing, money, it was costing too much and EA is losing money year on year, they had to release they had no choice in the matter, they had to try and recoup their initial outlay.

Originally posted by Calerxes

Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

Originally posted by Calerxes

The problem Ncsoft & Arenanet are facing now is that they have customers not just potential customers and the longer they leave it the more restless those customers will get and start shouting RELEASE THE FECKING THING NOW so my guess as with others is it'll be sooner rather than later bugs or no bugs. Get ready for the rollacoaster rides guys its going to be fun to watch and read 

 

and good riddance to the people who shout "release the game now".there probably the same bunch who are the reason why sw tor's doing so badly

but as long as its not duke nukem forever part 2 i dont care when it releases.although judging by the amount of people talking like playing video games in the summer is some abnormal thing,im probably just gonna give up the mmorpg genre altogether is gw2 is another casualfest like wow and go play somethin else.kinda tired of casuals ruining mmorpg after mmorpg

 

 

 

 

 

But customers have rights and they'll use them people whinging and bleating on forums don't and thats the difference when you put your game up for pre-purchase rather than pre-order. SW:TOR was released early because of a very simple thing, money, it was costing too much and EA is losing money year on year, they had to release they had no choice in the matter, they had to try and recoup their initial outlay.

with as big of a budget that bioware had that they pissed away on voice acting,i figured releasing it early because of money would be the last reason to release it early

Originally posted by zenryoku

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Almost done, yet so much work to do.. With Arenanet listening to people all around the globe and improving the game even more, its obvious to me that  this game wil not release pre summer 2012.

Not a big problem, and Arenanet can afford it with all the money they made from the pre purchases, there is no reason to rush. Pre-purchasing was an excellent idea, because in Arenanet we can trust. Have they told how many copies they pre-sold?  If they only sold as few as 200k Digital copies,  it will have made them well over 10M, which is enough to pay the bills.

With this attitude, GW2 might be up to sell WoW numbers of copies. Its a game aimed at a huge group of gamers, it has a lot of refreshing game feutures and Arenanet has the dedication to make it as good as possible.

 

Yes, its allmost done, but it will probably not release before early 4th quarter 2012, just in time to get enough possitive player attention to make a huge christmass sale on top of the initial sales.

 

¨refreshing game feutures¨. Can you make me a list?, from what i saw, and is not just me probably everyone who have played warhammer, daoc and rift, there is nothing new or ¨refreshing¨ in gw2, and if they dont fix the performance issues by the next beta, be ready for a september-december release.

The biggest one for me is the open-world dynamic events. Warhammer and Rift had some events that were dynamic, but they were localized and you still had the traditional linear quest hubs. You truly never need to look for a group to play with in GW2 as you'll get credit as long as you participate. Not once during the BWE did I ever feel like someone was impeding my progress, no I impeding them. That is a feature that I've never experienced in an MMO. There were always moments when someone "stole my kill", etc.

You will never see any " group looking for tank/healer/dps" in chat as there are none of the predefined archetypes in GW2. That feature alone will save us hours of trying to form a decent dungeon group.

The quick-travel system is the best I've ever seen. Most MMOs, you are bound to one point that you can recall to every 30-60 minutes. In GW2, you can teleport to anywhere you've unlocked for a small fee. You can get to anywhere in seconds.

So, those are three. There are others, but I just woke up. Brain no workie until my tea is ready. :P

GW2 DE are localized, exactley like warahmmer, also in Rift and war you dont need a party in a PQ or Rift is all about your contribution, but even that, in warhammer you have the ¨open party feature¨ wich was pretty good, easy and fast to find groups even in RvR, in gw2 at some point is like you are playing with a lots of Npcs, people dont even need to talk. Gw2 DE are just and improved version of Warhammer online Pqs, you even have the same contribution system, and stages, also is an static event like the Pqs on warhammer.

Earliest late July. I am guessing September-Oktober

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by zenryoku

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Almost done, yet so much work to do.. With Arenanet listening to people all around the globe and improving the game even more, its obvious to me that  this game wil not release pre summer 2012.

Not a big problem, and Arenanet can afford it with all the money they made from the pre purchases, there is no reason to rush. Pre-purchasing was an excellent idea, because in Arenanet we can trust. Have they told how many copies they pre-sold?  If they only sold as few as 200k Digital copies,  it will have made them well over 10M, which is enough to pay the bills.

With this attitude, GW2 might be up to sell WoW numbers of copies. Its a game aimed at a huge group of gamers, it has a lot of refreshing game feutures and Arenanet has the dedication to make it as good as possible.

 

Yes, its allmost done, but it will probably not release before early 4th quarter 2012, just in time to get enough possitive player attention to make a huge christmass sale on top of the initial sales.

 

¨refreshing game feutures¨. Can you make me a list?, from what i saw, and is not just me probably everyone who have played warhammer, daoc and rift, there is nothing new or ¨refreshing¨ in gw2, and if they dont fix the performance issues by the next beta, be ready for a september-december release.

The biggest one for me is the open-world dynamic events. Warhammer and Rift had some events that were dynamic, but they were localized and you still had the traditional linear quest hubs. You truly never need to look for a group to play with in GW2 as you'll get credit as long as you participate. Not once during the BWE did I ever feel like someone was impeding my progress, no I impeding them. That is a feature that I've never experienced in an MMO. There were always moments when someone "stole my kill", etc.

You will never see any " group looking for tank/healer/dps" in chat as there are none of the predefined archetypes in GW2. That feature alone will save us hours of trying to form a decent dungeon group.

The quick-travel system is the best I've ever seen. Most MMOs, you are bound to one point that you can recall to every 30-60 minutes. In GW2, you can teleport to anywhere you've unlocked for a small fee. You can get to anywhere in seconds.

So, those are three. There are others, but I just woke up. Brain no workie until my tea is ready. :P

GW2 DE are localized, exactley like warahmmer, also in Rift and war you dont need a party in a PQ or Rift is all about your contribution, but even that, in warhammer you have the ¨open party feature¨ wich was pretty good, easy and fast to find groups even in RvR, in gw2 at some point is like you are playing with a lots of Npcs, people dont even need to talk. Gw2 DE are just and improved version of Warhammer online Pqs, you even have the same contribution system, and stages, also is an static event like the Pqs on warhammer.

Have you played the high level dynamic events?

Ive got a good feeling the game is just about ready for release, but I think they are waiting to see if Blizzard release a date for MoP and they wanna see what affect D3 will have on the MMO community.

They can gain alot of players if they release after MoP, if it turns into Cata 2.0 players will migrate to GW2.

Games generally don't sell as well int he summer, I'm guessing september.

I am guessing september, nov, december TBH.

Remember they haven't even opened 2 races areas .. and im guessing because they are still working on them, along with engine polishing (ie maybe the game will use your video card... hopefully they will be very smart and REALLY UTILIZE GPUS FOR WvWvW, despite it being harder on compatibility). 

Oh and people saying De= WAR rofl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyqGJHTjes

Watch it and weep thats like a level 3 one that you can totally miss and that is how they work.