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  caremuchless

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5/05/12 11:09:01 PM#21
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

wrong

  Skymourne

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5/05/12 11:11:52 PM#22
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

you can laugh all you want, but that is certainly not the only reason i'm dissappointed with the game already.  Hell, i didn't even find out about the Hero Engine until today, but i reserve judgements on stuff like that.  What i don't like is Tamriel being infected by Azeroth and no matter how much you try to tell me that that is not the case, you will be dead wrong.  The reason?  because the game has already been in development since 2007 and the core design decisions have already been made.  It's World of Elder Scrolls.  THAT'S why and it's a damned travesty.

  Kazuhiro

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5/05/12 11:16:49 PM#23

As a long time player and someone who absolutely LOVES the entire elderscrolls series, I find myself sadly saying "I hope this game crashes and burns in a brilliant explosion." And it almost certainly will with planned game mechanics.

I could absolutely care less about the freaking hero engine, so OP your clearly a uninformed human being. The issues are what has been repeated in the last 2 pages.

1. 3rd person "only" game play in a ES game. (Vomits)

2. Non-realtime combat. (Garbage)

3. Skillbar with cooldown timers etc. (Really?)

And numerous other, smaller reasons. Basically they took every great thing about the elderscrolls games and threw them into the trash. Then copied a pile of crap system as the baseline.

 

May this abomination burn in the deepest darkest depths of MMO hell.

-signed

A Elderscrolls and Bethesda Fan.

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  darker70

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5/05/12 11:21:00 PM#24

Yeah Hero is getting a rough ride with Dominus folding which was my first dalience with Hero,even then there Alpha world was way better than SWTOR and many others on the market and that was over 2 years ago and it was more reminiscent of  open world old school games such as Vanguard.

But as the OP points out  the guy doing the publicity seems to be a bit removed from the current Mo scene as SWTOR  is seen as  the biggest flop ever with WOW mecahnics, and EA seen as the money grabbing villans now in dire straits after wasteing  money on an older build of Hero which they gutted for their own dev teams oh and their no doubt over spend on VO which was supposed to be their big selling point.

So as hopefully i will be testing The Repopulation in june i will see how the engine is handled when a small self funded team with no major suits pushing the game out of the door, can craft what i believe will be the best sandbox in gameing they already have a fantastic repour with a growing community demo'd the game at major events and have several vids and more on the way so the proof in the pudding will be the Beta June is gonna be fun !

 

 

  gilgamesh42

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5/06/12 12:07:37 AM#25

hero engine is crap i dont understand why people are using it the best  mmo engine atm is the unreal 3 engine

lol i hope these idiots dont make the elder scrolls mmo a wow style game  i will not only not buy it i will make it my mission to

troll them in ever aspect possible elders scrolls is the reason that i'm going to school to  become a game developer

  Blackwater56

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5/06/12 12:11:30 AM#26

Hey, OP, did you miss the part where they said The Elder Scrolls: Online will be a hoykey MMO?

 

Gee, I wonder if that's why people are pissed 

  Blackwater56

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5/06/12 12:12:33 AM#27
Originally posted by dubyahite
They hate everything. Except GW 2, which is strange because this game looks to have a lot of GW 2 mechanics.

Riddle me this, Batman.

 

WHY THE FUCK would Elder Scrolls fans want GUILD WARS 2 mechanics in an ELDER SCROLLS GAME?!

  Kelthius

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5/06/12 12:13:50 AM#28
Originally posted by gilgamesh42

hero engine is crap i dont understand why people are using it the best  mmo engine atm is the unreal 3 engine

lol i hope these idiots dont make the elder scrolls mmo a wow style game  i will not only not buy it i will make it my mission to

troll them in ever aspect possible elders scrolls is the reason that i'm going to school to  become a game developer

http://kotaku.com/5907598/first-elder-scrolls-online--details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo

  Skymourne

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5/06/12 12:16:34 AM#29
Originally posted by Kelthius
Originally posted by gilgamesh42

hero engine is crap i dont understand why people are using it the best  mmo engine atm is the unreal 3 engine

lol i hope these idiots dont make the elder scrolls mmo a wow style game  i will not only not buy it i will make it my mission to

troll them in ever aspect possible elders scrolls is the reason that i'm going to school to  become a game developer

http://kotaku.com/5907598/first-elder-scrolls-online--details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo

yep i read that one earlier.  Thus far, this is the most poorly received game announcement i've ever seen.  and it's well deserved.  what the hell were they thinking?

  bcbully

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5/06/12 12:16:55 AM#30
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

I'm down because what we know even if not a lot seems like the "same old thing."

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Destai

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5/06/12 12:19:24 AM#31
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

I think the engine is the least disappointing part of the announcement and is certainly my least concern. I am more disappointed to know that major parts of the game will be walled off, the lack of traditional TES combat and overall compromise of what makes the game series enjoyable. As an Elder Scrolls fan, and I'm sure many others feel this way, the absence of a combat system that is fluid and visceral is what makes this game a no-go early on. If over the course of development, we find redeeming factors, then I believe more flock to it. However based on the released information and images the only rational thing to do is let the developers know they've screwed up. Enough crappy games, enough money grabs, and enough flops. Maybe this genre needs to have some major flops before developers realize how bad they're screwing up.

Current MMOs: Wildstar, Guild Wars 2, the Secret World, World of Warcraft

Past Loves: Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Everquest

  Kelthius

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5/06/12 12:19:34 AM#32
Originally posted by Skymourne
Originally posted by Kelthius
Originally posted by gilgamesh42

hero engine is crap i dont understand why people are using it the best  mmo engine atm is the unreal 3 engine

lol i hope these idiots dont make the elder scrolls mmo a wow style game  i will not only not buy it i will make it my mission to

troll them in ever aspect possible elders scrolls is the reason that i'm going to school to  become a game developer

http://kotaku.com/5907598/first-elder-scrolls-online--details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo

yep i read that one earlier.  Thus far, this is the most poorly received game announcement i've ever seen.  and it's well deserved.  what the hell were they thinking?

I'm still waiting for a big ole, "Surprise! You think we would release shit like that?! Here's the real game!" (insert epic screenshots and info) Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen.

  Skymourne

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5/06/12 12:26:01 AM#33
Originally posted by Kelthius
Originally posted by Skymourne
Originally posted by Kelthius
Originally posted by gilgamesh42

hero engine is crap i dont understand why people are using it the best  mmo engine atm is the unreal 3 engine

lol i hope these idiots dont make the elder scrolls mmo a wow style game  i will not only not buy it i will make it my mission to

troll them in ever aspect possible elders scrolls is the reason that i'm going to school to  become a game developer

http://kotaku.com/5907598/first-elder-scrolls-online--details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo

yep i read that one earlier.  Thus far, this is the most poorly received game announcement i've ever seen.  and it's well deserved.  what the hell were they thinking?

I'm still waiting for a big ole, "Surprise! You think we would release shit like that?! Here's the real game!" (insert epic screenshots and info) Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen.

Man i wish. Would be the biggest trolling ever executed, but i'm with you.  I doubt it as well.  They are seeing dollar signs. It's really the only reason i could possibly think of aside from simply not being able to pull it off the right way.

  Uhwop

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5/06/12 12:50:44 AM#34
Originally posted by Vorthanion
Originally posted by Ekaros

Nah, the real reason is once again taking a big name and making money grab which isn't atleast partialy faitfull to that name.  Just the typical industry way of doing things...

Nah, people are labeling it as a money grab becuase the game isn't being targeted at them.  Anytime a game IP doesn't meet the demanding expectation of the purists, it's a money grab.  That comes up almost every single time this happens.

 If you announce you're making the ES mmo that the FANS have always wanted, and it turns out that that game will play just like WoW, then you didn't make an ES mmo for the fans.  You made an MMO for WoW fans, or in this case DAoC/ WoW fans.

If everything is true, then yes, i would have to agree that this looks very much like someone desided they would try and get thier slice of the pie, and they figured they could just use the ES brand because they know that some people will buy it just because it says ES in the name.

Case in point.  The people who seem to think that an ES game that plays like WoW is an MMO for ES fans. 

So what are you?  An ES fan, or just someone that wants an ES mmo and doesn't care that it's just another version of WoW, with a little DAoC thrown in?  Because I can tell you that as an ES fan myself, I will not give them money for an ES game that doesn't play anything like an ES game.

An ES mmo that plays like WoW goes against everything that Weaver intended for the franshise.

No ES fan ever asked them to make an ES mmo that played like WoW.  We asked for Morrowind with online play.

 

PS: Mortal online looks more like an ES game then the screens that GI posted.  To say that you can't have that style of art in an MMO is yet more BS.  Seems like a lot of people are taking the comments that were made in the leak about things not being possible and harping them to justify that they only want the name ES attached to an MMO, and don't care if it the game ends up nothing like any ES game. 

Everything some of you keep saying isn't possible has already been done in other MMO's.  Meridian 59 did FPS mechanics 17 years ago as the first MMO ever made, and UO did freeform character progression shortly after it.  What reality are some of you living in?

  User Deleted
5/06/12 12:57:39 AM#35

Bethesda should publish ArcheAge in NA and Europe and just call it Elder Scrolls Online.

  Sora2810

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5/06/12 1:00:38 AM#36

I'm not hating the game. I just lost interest. My expectations were set too high. I wanted a elder scrolls gameplay experience in MMO form.  

I can't really stand the combat system. I'm sorry, I did want the replicated gameplay experience. If I find a sword, I wanted to equip it, get better at using it, unlock better perks. Today I feel like using fire spells, equip it. The elder scrolls experience has always been immersive. Adreniline pumping first-person action. I can't get into seeing this as a hotbar game.

I care less about heroEngine being the engine. I care less about the graphics. I wanted the core elder scrolls experience with improved MMO features. I didn't want third-person ability game.

 

 

Originally posted by DannyGlover

Bethesda should publish ArcheAge in NA and Europe and just call it Elder Scrolls Online.

 

Honestly; I'm going to say this straight up and say they should buy Mortal Online and seriously improve it. Having a hotbar is okay; As long as you have clicks to swing.  

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  Mithrandolir

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5/06/12 1:04:39 AM#37
Originally posted by DannyGlover

Bethesda should publish ArcheAge in NA and Europe and just call it Elder Scrolls Online.

Anyone should publish Archeage in NA and Europe and call it anything they want. And soon, please :)

 

 

 

  User Deleted
5/06/12 1:06:28 AM#38

Well the amount of TES fans that dont like the change on mechanics, art style, and playing show/announced for TES Online should give a clear indicator to investors and Zenimax their game will probably be a flop..

Unfortunaly, most of the time companies dont give a crap about theese indicators and go ahead. At least lets hope they change the type of game they planning to develop based on how bad it is beeing received by the TES fan comnity.

  firefly2003

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5/06/12 1:11:16 AM#39
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

I've been kinda scratching my head over that one myself consider The Repopulation http://www.therepopulation.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=175&Itemid=457 is using the Hero Engine and its a spiritual sucessor of SWG and its got player cities and housing and all the things sandbox players want, there's nothing wrong with the engine just the studio that makes bad games with it.

I only dislike cause what I've seen so far the game is so far removed from what the ES really is player freedom, and there used to be that in MMOs once upon a time its a slap in the face to the core of their fanbase including myself, I'm glad Zenimax is doing this so I can't lose any respect for the Bethesda team. If all of this is true being and been there done that MMO when I read the article soon I don't think this MMO will do really well at all.

  User Deleted
5/06/12 1:12:20 AM#40


Originally posted by Mithrandolir


Originally posted by DannyGlover
Bethesda should publish ArcheAge in NA and Europe and just call it Elder Scrolls Online.


Anyone should publish Archeage in NA and Europe and call it anything they want. And soon, please :)
 
 
 

lol YES!

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