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  Chrisbox

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OP  5/05/12 9:02:24 PM#1

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

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  Ekaros

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5/05/12 9:05:11 PM#2

Nah, the real reason is once again taking a big name and making money grab which isn't atleast partialy faitfull to that name.  Just the typical industry way of doing things...

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  Ambros123

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5/05/12 9:05:58 PM#3

Or they could be hating because official statements totally contradict or disreguard core TES mechanics which is what the fan based loved?  While I'll wait and see how this game developes but I ain't holding my breath on it.

  nax38

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5/05/12 9:17:42 PM#4

 

Couldn't care less what engine it is.

The artstyle looks nothing like any TES, it's not first person, and while I would be ok with 3 faction in some other games it makes no sense here.

  MyBoot

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5/05/12 9:21:31 PM#5

I say sit back and wait for more info before we judge,

  dubyahite

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5/05/12 9:27:43 PM#6
They hate everything. Except GW 2, which is strange because this game looks to have a lot of GW 2 mechanics.

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  Mister_Re

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5/05/12 9:29:51 PM#7
Originally posted by nax38

 

Couldn't care less what engine it is.

The artstyle looks nothing like any TES, it's not first person, and while I would be ok with 3 faction in some other games it makes no sense here.

Pretty much ^^

But I'll still give it a shot... could be fun

  SoulOfRaziel

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5/05/12 9:30:17 PM#8
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

No man. 

the real reason i am "hating" TES online is because it will be 3rd person view AND NO dynamic combat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

  Vorthanion

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5/05/12 9:30:59 PM#9
Originally posted by Ekaros

Nah, the real reason is once again taking a big name and making money grab which isn't atleast partialy faitfull to that name.  Just the typical industry way of doing things...

Nah, people are labeling it as a money grab becuase the game isn't being targeted at them.  Anytime a game IP doesn't meet the demanding expectation of the purists, it's a money grab.  That comes up almost every single time this happens.

  Xzen

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5/05/12 9:37:16 PM#10

I'm not going to speak for other ES fans. As for myself All I wanted from an ES was the same world and gameplay but with muliplayer support. In an mmo I can understand adding respawns and faction based PvP. But all the other changes? It's just not what I wanted in an ES title. That's about it.

  Paradigm68

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5/05/12 9:41:35 PM#11

Here are some good reasons that have nothing to do with the hero engine.

This is from another article about ESO:

ZeniMax Online's Paul Sage says "it needs to be comfortable for people who are coming from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms

its combat centres around hotbars activating skills. Your attacks have cooldowns. In clear terms, that means no real-time combat. It is literally explained as using "World of Warcraft mechanics"

"keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content"

Only "some fraction" of the caves and other landmarks in the game are waiting completely unmarked and unexplored

You can't own a house because it's "too hard to implement in an MMO"

It even looks like just another fantasy MMO, losing much of the refined elegance of Bethesda's games in exchange for a simpler style that looks little like the past few games in the series.

  Theocritus

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5/05/12 9:45:15 PM#12

      I jsut don't see how anyone can love or hate a game at this stage of its development....We know very little about it and 8 million things can change between now and the launch of the game (if that even happens)....Theres no sense getting worked up one way or another about something that was just announced a couple of days ago.

  PyrateLV

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5/05/12 9:46:12 PM#13

No

Im not thrilled it will use the Hero Engine. I think it will limit them severely.

 

I "hate" (the idea behind) TESO because they are making it follow shallow, linear and derivative "Mainstream MMO Standards" like WoW and SWTOR.

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  Drakxii

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5/05/12 9:48:53 PM#14

I can't really hate on a engine till I see it atleast twice, but I can hate on another MMO first describing itself using worlds like "World of Warcraft" and "SWTOR".

I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.

  Xzen

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5/05/12 9:50:34 PM#15
Originally posted by Theocritus

      I jsut don't see how anyone can love or hate a game at this stage of its development....We know very little about it and 8 million things can change between now and the launch of the game (if that even happens)....Theres no sense getting worked up one way or another about something that was just announced a couple of days ago.

Because there is enough info about it to know if it's what we wanted in a ES title.

  Realbigdeal

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5/05/12 9:52:05 PM#16

I don't hate the gameplay and the lore.

TES was unique.

Now that it is just like any other theme park mmo, the only reason i hate is simply cuz i would rather play wow or rift and guild wars 2.

With that being said, none of us hates the hero engine or wow like you're claiming it. We just know better and we refuse to fall in this repetitiveness.

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  deathshroud

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5/05/12 11:03:07 PM#17
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

 its becuase it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the original TES games, the mechanics art style and even the lroe are vastly different. Its a WOW clone with the TES ip wrapped around it and smells exactly like SWTOR. They have cut streched and pasted the Lore and world in order to poorly fit their WOW clone and its an abortion.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Burntvet

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5/05/12 11:29:28 PM#18
Originally posted by Paradigm68

Here are some good reasons that have nothing to do with the hero engine.

This is from another article about ESO:

ZeniMax Online's Paul Sage says "it needs to be comfortable for people who are coming from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms

its combat centres around hotbars activating skills. Your attacks have cooldowns. In clear terms, that means no real-time combat. It is literally explained as using "World of Warcraft mechanics"

"keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content"

Only "some fraction" of the caves and other landmarks in the game are waiting completely unmarked and unexplored

You can't own a house because it's "too hard to implement in an MMO"

It even looks like just another fantasy MMO, losing much of the refined elegance of Bethesda's games in exchange for a simpler style that looks little like the past few games in the series.

QFT ^

Until developers rediscover "trying to make a good MMO" instead of repeatedly aiming for a "not-bad" or "familar" or "non-offensive" MMO, the same old crap will keep coming out over and over, only using different IPs.

There were MMOs before WoW, even if the slugheads that are making the decisions don't acknowledge that fact.

 

If people want to play WoW, they'll effin play WoW...

 

  Sovrath

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5/05/12 11:57:00 PM#19
Originally posted by Chrisbox

Is because its using hero engine, and people think that it will fail like swtor.  Im hardcore laughing at these threads from people who are already trying to judge this game after it just gets ANNOUNCED. 

That's not even remotely true.

Have you actually read the article indicating what the game would or wouldn't have?

if so, by all means, please compare/contrast all the things that they said the game would and wouldn't have to what the previous elder scrolls games did have.

At the end of your list you will see why some people are angry.

  CujoSWAoA

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5/06/12 12:03:31 AM#20

To the OP:

Thats not the only reason.

Sorry.  There's lots lots lots more reasons than the "Hero" engine.

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