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Elder Scrolls Online

Elder Scrolls Online 

General Discussion  » Headline: Elder Scrolls Online - The most negatively received "reveal" in MMORPG history

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5/05/12 1:27:33 AM#41
Originally posted by Banquetto
Ever since Skyrim launched, there has been an absolute non-stop cavalcade of people saying "omg I WISH they would make an Elder Scrolls MMO!!" Now, they announce one and everyone is crying like little babies and making hysterical proclamations like "biggest slap in the face EVER!" Well, screw gamers, every day that passes I get more and more embarrassed to be a part of this pathetic subculture of whiners and complainers. Bugger off and do something else if you hate gaming so much.

Yeah, isn't it funny how people wanted an Elder Scrolls MMO and they go ahead and make an Eldercraft MMO? Doesn't take a genius to see why people are complaining. If you don't like being part of the gaming community then go ahead and leave. No one will miss you and your high horse.

People complain about things they don't like. Get used to it or get lost.


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5/05/12 1:40:22 AM#42

ESO has been in developement since ere they suppose to what skyrim online was or what swtor..i think if they stared to make one today it would defly be in the shape of skyrim


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5/05/12 1:49:09 AM#43
Originally posted by Sinaku

"Let me put it this way...

You found some cheese, and it was AWESOME.
So you were given another type of cheese, and it was good too.
And another type of cheese, and it was pretty good.
And another.
And antoher.
And another.
And now you're kinda getting tired of cheese, you'd like some other kind of food.
Well, this AWESOME bread company known for their ab-so-lute-ly DELICIOUS types of fancy bread has come to you, and you're like, "SWEET, BREAD!". But they offer you a sample from their new cheese line.

This is how we feel. We wanted something that's not cheese, and the bread guys showed up. We got excited, but were let down when they offered more cheese"

Best quote I have read from the Bethesda TESO forum haha

Something about a hammer and a nail.


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5/05/12 2:26:18 AM#44

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5/05/12 2:28:33 AM#45

Please are u basing it on the general mmorpg joe who cries about everything? Look around most ppl are hyped.


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5/05/12 2:38:02 AM#46

I hope it's not cheese. Cause I've got a problem with cheese...


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5/05/12 3:48:19 AM#47
Originally posted by Otomox

Please are u basing it on the general mmorpg joe who cries about everything? Look around most ppl are hyped.

I have looked around, many are not, the rest haven’t read the details, and/or are IP zombies.
Yes we are a bunch of whiney SOBs, but we often have a point, and know the issues better than the general public. Are we asking too much for an Elder Scrolls mmo that evokes the Elder Scrolls games and not just the title?

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5/05/12 4:08:09 AM#48
It is simple the organised fanboy defence league is still deployed on GW2 duties, it will appear to be more popular when the hype squad makes the leap over

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5/05/12 4:09:04 AM#49
Double post

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5/05/12 4:17:50 AM#50
I dunno, defending this requires a lot of hair splitting, at best you can defend it as potentially good in its own right, but a lot of TES purists will never except it.

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5/05/12 4:34:44 AM#51

At the moment, that type of game makes money. Folks are jumping on the bandwagon to cash in.


Personally, I am hoping some of these 'get on board' attitudes from  the better IPs (Game of Thrones, ESO) signifies SOMEONE seeing a change in the trend of MMOs in the near future. The current ones are jumping on the train while they can.

If so perhaps we'll see difference...and hopefully  a good difference in concepts coming soon.


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5/05/12 5:45:09 AM#52

If the game was going to be truly like Elder Scrolls Online than it would probably be a lot like Darkfall which most of you would totally whine about.

NEWS FLASH! A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore Darkfall Online player and knew just what to do.


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5/05/12 5:51:38 AM#53
Originally posted by morlock9

Welcome to next week's headline across the gaming community.

Regardless of the state of the recently revealed game or its ability to stand on it's own as an MMO, the development team has departed significantly from the features that characterized previous Elder Scrolls games and has resulted in a backlash from the fan base.

With the leak of some detailed information on game play, many have begun to wonder if the title of Elder Scrolls Online should be replaced with something more fitting a traditional MMO "Based upon the lore of the Elder Scrolls Series".

At a time when most MMO's benifit from exciting announcments, ESO is already being heralded as a falure for lack of vision. This appears to be the most negatively received "reveal" in the history of the modern MMORPG.         

This website does not represent gaming community world wide and more over these forums are know for this kind of stuff. No surprise there.


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5/05/12 5:53:33 AM#54
It sounds like gw2 done right. No stupid pvp annominity, no silly mandatory reset every 2 weeks, more open world & old school open dungeons. Im betting the crafting is better too taking influence from tes & uo rather than wow.

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5/05/12 5:55:16 AM#55
Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

If the game was going to be truly like Elder Scrolls Online than it would probably be a lot like Darkfall which most of you would totally whine about.

if you take out FFA  PvP and Full loot...why would people cry about it?

This game (from the little that was leaked) has "generic" written all over it.


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5/05/12 5:57:19 AM#56

Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

If the game was going to be truly like Elder Scrolls Online than it would probably be a lot like Darkfall which most of you would totally whine about.

Pretty much this.

The "true TES MMO" is there already, it is called Darkfall. You hate it too? Well, you only got what you asked for.


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5/05/12 6:02:56 AM#57
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by colddog04

I blame SWTOR.

I blame years of dreaming and expectation. It's sad that a Dev team can't strike out to find it's own identity, and be acknowledged good or bad for what it is rather than what it's not.

I just mean that SWTOR changed the way a lot of people view releases now - independant of actual quality of game. If SWTOR never came out, I think the news about the systems in place wouldn't have been taken so harshly. People see another clone instead of another game.


Although, for me personally, I am fairly disappointed by what I've seen. I feel like they aren't really bringing anything to the table we haven't seen. And it does feel like they are falling into a lot of old MMORPG tropes.

SWTOR hasn't really changed anything for me.  It's yet another game, albeit one of the biggest spending MMORPGs in the history of the genre, to not live up to expectations.  Even if details of SWTOR's gameplay were kept hush hush until release, players will eventually talk about what was in place.  Then the cat will be out of the bag.  Anyways, I'm sure it's making big money, but as an MMORPG, despite having the Star Wars name, the game is soulless.  When the biggest positive attribute of the game is voice overs, there should be cause for concern.

Anyways, it was another MMORPG touted as the end all, be all title.  The one alot of people said would be the last MMORPG they'll ever need.

Yeah.  Sure.

Another big name title, another one that failed to take the WoW crown, despite getting insane amount of resources.  There was so much money thrown at it, that I think it would have been enough to build several MMORPGs.  A budget almost all other dev teams can only dream of.  Yet what you have is one of the most uninspiring, loneliest playing MMORPGs ever to exist.

Now, back to this TESO (The Elder Scrolls Online):  We've debated a long time on these boards about that possiblity long before this recent bit of news came out.  Alot of longtime TES fans were very concerned about it.  The style of the SPRPG versions of TES games has been very open and allowing players to do what they want.  Character build system, even Skyrim's, is unique (or seldom used these days) in both SPRPGs and MMORPGs.  TES titles have generally been about one huge factor:  FREEDOM.

Alot of old TES fans say it can never be done right in an MMORPG.  I used to say that it can, but it would be a tightrope act.

But my assumption was that it would be Bethesda doing it.  But with this news, it isn't, just some random dudes.  Now I say this game has a colossal chance of failure in the crowd that this TESO game is aiming for:  TES fans.  For a couple reasons.

* Nobody knows Bethesda's formula for success in their TES games more than Bethesda themselves.  Now outsiders are going to try to replicate it.

* These outsiders, in all likeliness, follow the established pattern of what's been done by the majority of developers in the MMORPG genre.  Themepark, Class + Level System, very structured progression.  I am so sure that they will not follow at all the sandboxy heart of TES gaming.  Because MMORPGs are by design meant for large appeal, and that design for several years now is against sandboxy gaming, against the free-form style of TES.

Now, all of us naysayers could be wrong, but I'm pretty dang sure TESO will not come out like a TES "Online" should be, at least in respect to what TES gaming is.  I'm more likely to wake up tomorrow as a billionaire with 5 ultra hot supermodels in my bed, as well as winning the Nobel Peace Prize for establishing World Peace, before this TESO truly fits the bill of a TES game.

It has a 1% chance, but at least it has a chance.

Originally posted by RefMinor
It is simple the organised fanboy defence league is still deployed on GW2 duties, it will appear to be more popular when the hype squad makes the leap over

I dunno man, some of the harshest critics of this TESO are TES fans themselves.  The same crowd (that I'm a part of) that has been rampaging on these boards about the greatness of TES and recently, Skyrim.

"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)


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5/05/12 6:11:22 AM#58

The backlash over at the official ESO boards is indeed amazing. I have never seen such a negative reaction. They really fucked up bad!

The flames are almost beautiful in a sad way.


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5/05/12 6:16:31 AM#59

I was browsing the boards there.  Some of the harshest hate has been really coming from the old TES fans.  Looking at the board registration dates, they go back years, like 2004 or something.  The concerns were just like what I mentioned in the post above yours.

This game is going to be aimed squarely at non-TES fans.  It sounds ridiculously stupid, I know, but a terrible knot in my gut is telling me that's what will happen.  Or that Burrito I had earlier is causing it.

"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)


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5/05/12 6:32:00 AM#60

Originally posted by Warmaker

This game is going to be aimed squarely at non-TES fans.  It sounds ridiculously stupid,

Does it?

To transform "TES features" into MMO would create something like Darkfall - not very successful title.
TES series is not overly popular PC title thus the fanbase is rather small - not very promising customer base.


There are simply more reasons why not to make the game for "TES fans" rather then for them.

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