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  Xsorus

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OP  5/04/12 6:33:01 PM#41
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Kelthius

The quotes "The game will also use a hotbar to activate skills like many classic MMOs and will vissually resemble other current online multiplayer games, including "Star Wars: The Old Republic." and "The combat system will not play out in real time." Sound pretty damn boring to me.

@Kokushibyou

Last I checked, they had no MMO experience. Sounds a lot like Bioware. Good track record for single player RPGs, but MMOs?

no they only built Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot, bunch of amateurs

 

The guy who actually designed DAOC's combat system wasn't Matt Frior

and Bioware didn't make DAOC/UO

As for combat system of SWTOR, it's actual combat system isn't actually that bad, It's fairly fluid and works, It however cannot handle a large number of players (hence why you only see 8v8 games and not massive battles on Ilum)

When I look at the Faults of SWTOR, I don't think of how bad the combat system is, I think of How freakin awful the open world was.

 

 

 

 

 

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  Kelthius

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5/04/12 6:33:35 PM#42
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Kelthius

The quotes "The game will also use a hotbar to activate skills like many classic MMOs and will vissually resemble other current online multiplayer games, including "Star Wars: The Old Republic." and "The combat system will not play out in real time." Sound pretty damn boring to me.

@Kokushibyou

Last I checked, they had no MMO experience. Sounds a lot like Bioware. Good track record for single player RPGs, but MMOs?

no they only built Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot, bunch of amateurs

Zenimax did not. An unknown number of Devs were part of the games, yes, but Warhammer Online also had people from DAOC working with them.

I hope this game succeeds. I just don't like the decisions thus far.

  Xsorus

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OP  5/04/12 6:34:19 PM#43
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by colddog04

Huh.

 

Yeah, you're right. I'm am breaking new ground in stupidity by thinking that tab-targeting and hotbars is more similar to WoW than it is to Skyrim.

 

But the red is the best part. Because I was exactly correct.

 

You realize that Hotbars exist in Skyrim right? You know how you select your Left and Right Mouse button and what abilities you use in shot slots (For example, a Sword/Shield, or Ice Spell/Lightning Spell)

That's a bloody hotbar..

You mean the fast switch where it pauses the game while you select either a weapon or spell?

 

No, those are not hotbars.

 

Yes, that is a hotbar mate, You have abilities in a docking point (Aka a hotbar).

If ya don't think it's a hotbar, try using your Fire spell without having it in the docking point, or your bow from your bag.

Just no.

You can say no all you want, But it doesn't make what you're saying any less stupid.

 

 

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  BeansnBread

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5/04/12 6:35:01 PM#44
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by colddog04

Huh.

 

Yeah, you're right. I'm am breaking new ground in stupidity by thinking that tab-targeting and hotbars is more similar to WoW than it is to Skyrim.

 

But the red is the best part. Because I was exactly correct.

 

You realize that Hotbars exist in Skyrim right? You know how you select your Left and Right Mouse button and what abilities you use in shot slots (For example, a Sword/Shield, or Ice Spell/Lightning Spell)

That's a bloody hotbar..

You mean the fast switch where it pauses the game while you select either a weapon or spell?

 

No, those are not hotbars.

 

Yes, that is a hotbar mate, You have abilities in a docking point (Aka a hotbar).

If ya don't think it's a hotbar, try using your Fire spell without having it in the docking point, or your bow from your bag.

Just no.

You can say no all you want, But it doesn't make what you're saying any less stupid.

That statement is true.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  bishbosh

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5/04/12 6:45:39 PM#45

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

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  Uhwop

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5/04/12 6:50:14 PM#46
Originally posted by dontadow
 

So does the ability to tab target.  These things are the least of any real elder scroll fans concerns.  The main thing is the ability to go anywhere and have the world level around you.  It's the idea of being able to travel a world and find various quests and adventures.  

 Which the "leaked" article makes a point of mentioning that you can't do. 

"You can go anywhere, but you may need to level up first if you want to survive"  Just like a linear MMO.  I can go anywhere in WoW at level 1, but I need to level up first if I want to survive.

There was nothing wrong with skyrims combat, it was the best iteration of the series in my opinion.  OP is exagerating melee combat in skyrim, anyone that did more then just spam a button to fight knows this.  Or maybe he's thinking about oblivion which really was just spamming a single button with no charging, no possitional attacking, no finishers, just press the botton until you're out of stamina.

No complaint about magic?  or archery?

My problem with hotbar combat is that it tends to feel like combatis all the same, just dif. particle effects and animations.  Melee, magic, or ranged, you always fight the exact same way, the only thing that changes is the animations tied to your class.  1 2 3 on a mage is the same thing as 1 2 3 on a warrior.

And no MMO is balanced.  Wish people would stop trying to use balance as a reason for needing hotbar combat.  Balance is a myth, and never going to happen.  

Hot bar roatation has been done to death, and the "leak" indicated it would be present in TESO, only the player gets to decide on what rotation he wants to use to a limited degree.  There's a reason why so many MMO's are moving away from the hotbar rotation format into more active combat systems. 

 

  Uhwop

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5/04/12 6:58:18 PM#47
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 In a single player game, were content is supposed to be dynamically scaling to the player, and you play the god like hero, balance isn't required. 

Not to mention how odd it is for someone to complain about the combat is skyrim not being good, and claiming to have maxed every skill in the game.  I've never maxed every skill in any of them, and I played them for hundreds of hours.  If you're putting that much time into playing something that you can max everything, you obviously enjoyed.

Nobody sinks that much time into somethig they think sucked.  I'd have to call BS, they either liked it, or they never got every skill to 100 and one shot a dragon.

  nilden

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5/04/12 6:58:56 PM#48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSL-r9AIEEU

Skyrim.

So how much of that are we getting rid of to make The Elder Scrolls Online?

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  Xsorus

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OP  5/04/12 7:03:08 PM#49
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 

You can go with a skill system or a Class based system, Both have to be balanced in terms of MMO gameplay, Skyrims system simply would flat out not work in MMO setting, therefor it isn't an Elder Scrolls game if it doesn't copy exactly every shit mechanic Elder Scrolls did amiright *grin*

Next up on the stupid meter, We have your comments on replacing it with WoW style Tab targeting 3rd person combat, which is funny, Since In both Skyrim and WoW you can do first person and 3rd person mode, In fact I pretty much played Skyrim entirely in 3rd person except for when I wanted to shoot a bow (which is about the only skillful part of actual Skyrim Combat).

But wait, I keep seeing the Tab Targetting comment, which blows my mind, Lets assume ya Tab Target, What do you do when you tab targetted to the character... You face them, and Run near them and attack... Now lets assume you're playing skyrim, If you want to attack a character, what do you do? You face them, run near them, and attack.. All Tab Targetting does in a game is allow you to select Targets, You can actually Tab Target in games and still have Free Attacking similar to Skyrim.

For Example, I can Tab Target in a game, and still be required to Aim my bow and spells... There is nothing in a game handbook that says Tab Targetting Means I automatically have to attack that specific target.

Tab Targetting in Guild Wars 2 works to this way in some extent, Even if i have you targetted, if someone is in my way in GW2, I will hit them instead of you with my attacks.

and in closing, I want to point this out to everyone

 

". the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods)."

Yes my friends, Don't fuck with how Elder Scrolls is made, Unless we need to fix it with mods, then it's fine... *grin*

 

 

 

 

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  Xsorus

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OP  5/04/12 7:06:55 PM#50
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 In a single player game, were content is supposed to be dynamically scaling to the player, and you play the god like hero, balance isn't required. 

Not to mention how odd it is for someone to complain about the combat is skyrim not being good, and claiming to have maxed every skill in the game.  I've never maxed every skill in any of them, and I played them for hundreds of hours.  If you're putting that much time into playing something that you can max everything, you obviously enjoyed.

Nobody sinks that much time into somethig they think sucked.  I'd have to call BS, they either liked it, or they never got every skill to 100 and one shot a dragon.

 

You're confusing the fact that Skyrim had a shitty combat system with Skyrim sucking as a game...

Which tells me you didn't read my original post, where i said Skyrim being a great game had nothing to do with the fact its combat system was ass.... That's not what made it a great game..

Unless you somehow think Skyrim was absolutely perfect in every way, and had zero flaws, in which case, Get in the line with the Star Wars jack asses who are pissed Vaders yell is to long or whatever useless bullshit they came up with this week.

 

 

 

 

 

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  ShakyMo

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5/04/12 7:08:44 PM#51
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Kelthius

The quotes "The game will also use a hotbar to activate skills like many classic MMOs and will vissually resemble other current online multiplayer games, including "Star Wars: The Old Republic." and "The combat system will not play out in real time." Sound pretty damn boring to me.

@Kokushibyou

Last I checked, they had no MMO experience. Sounds a lot like Bioware. Good track record for single player RPGs, but MMOs?

no they only built Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot, bunch of amateurs

 

The guy who actually designed DAOC's combat system wasn't Matt Frior

and Bioware didn't make DAOC/UO

As for combat system of SWTOR, it's actual combat system isn't actually that bad, It's fairly fluid and works, It however cannot handle a large number of players (hence why you only see 8v8 games and not massive battles on Ilum)

When I look at the Faults of SWTOR, I don't think of how bad the combat system is, I think of How freakin awful the open world was.

i meant the zenimax devs not bioware, i was being sarcastic.  Firor left Mythic before EA took over and ruined them.

  Uhwop

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5/04/12 7:08:57 PM#52
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 

 Skyrims system simply would flat out not work in MMO setting,

 

 

 Why do some of you keep saying this? 

There are MMO's that use FPS combat, as well as action combat like TERA and DCUO, and it works.

Just because you prefer something else, doesn't mean it won't work, it means you prefer something else. 

 

And why do you need to drop the Fbomb?  Cursing doesn't make you sound smarter, nor does it make what you write true.

  bishbosh

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5/04/12 7:09:45 PM#53
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 In a single player game, were content is supposed to be dynamically scaling to the player, and you play the god like hero, balance isn't required. 

^this

no one here is saying that we should copy paste single player levelling/class mechanics from a single player elder scrolls to a multiplayer version. ofcourse some modifications need to be made .eg. set caps on certain skills, limit the max number of spells you can have, rebalance perk trees etc. scrapping a potentially awesome system that gives lots of freedom with WOW style fixed classses is stupid. 

  ShakyMo

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5/04/12 7:10:21 PM#54
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 

 Skyrims system simply would flat out not work in MMO setting,

 

 

 Why do some of you keep saying this? 

There are MMO's that use FPS combat, as well as action combat like TERA and DCUO, and it works.

Just because you prefer something else, doesn't mean it won't work, it means you prefer something else. 

 

And why do you need to drop the Fbomb?  Cursing doesn't make you sound smarter, nor does it make what you write true.

dcuo has hotbar combat really - it just hides it well

  Uhwop

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5/04/12 7:11:50 PM#55
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 In a single player game, were content is supposed to be dynamically scaling to the player, and you play the god like hero, balance isn't required. 

Not to mention how odd it is for someone to complain about the combat is skyrim not being good, and claiming to have maxed every skill in the game.  I've never maxed every skill in any of them, and I played them for hundreds of hours.  If you're putting that much time into playing something that you can max everything, you obviously enjoyed.

Nobody sinks that much time into somethig they think sucked.  I'd have to call BS, they either liked it, or they never got every skill to 100 and one shot a dragon.

 

You're confusing the fact that Skyrim had a shitty combat system with Skyrim sucking as a game...

Which tells me you didn't read my original post, where i said Skyrim being a great game had nothing to do with the fact its combat system was ass.... That's not what made it a great game..

Unless you somehow think Skyrim was absolutely perfect in every way, and had zero flaws, in which case, Get in the line with the Star Wars jack asses who are pissed Vaders yell is to long or whatever useless bullshit they came up with this week.

 

 

 

 

 

 No, I just think that anyone that says that they played something that sucked for so long that they were able to level every skill in the game to 100 has got to either be lieing or trolling.

I see 6 pages of posts, and only one guy saying it sucked.  Not to be a sheep or anything, but bah.

  Xsorus

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OP  5/04/12 7:15:53 PM#56
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 In a single player game, were content is supposed to be dynamically scaling to the player, and you play the god like hero, balance isn't required. 

Not to mention how odd it is for someone to complain about the combat is skyrim not being good, and claiming to have maxed every skill in the game.  I've never maxed every skill in any of them, and I played them for hundreds of hours.  If you're putting that much time into playing something that you can max everything, you obviously enjoyed.

Nobody sinks that much time into somethig they think sucked.  I'd have to call BS, they either liked it, or they never got every skill to 100 and one shot a dragon.

 

You're confusing the fact that Skyrim had a shitty combat system with Skyrim sucking as a game...

Which tells me you didn't read my original post, where i said Skyrim being a great game had nothing to do with the fact its combat system was ass.... That's not what made it a great game..

Unless you somehow think Skyrim was absolutely perfect in every way, and had zero flaws, in which case, Get in the line with the Star Wars jack asses who are pissed Vaders yell is to long or whatever useless bullshit they came up with this week.

 

 

 

 

 

 No, I just think that anyone that says that they played something that sucked for so long that they were able to level every skill in the game to 100 has got to either be lieing or trolling.

I see 6 pages of posts, and only one guy saying it sucked.  Not to be a sheep or anything, but bah.

 

You clearly have never actually read any thread what so ever on the Bethesda Forums.

and again, you're confusing having a shitty combat system with having a shitty game. I don't consider Legend of Grimrock to have the pinacle of combat systems in gaming history, But that doesn't mean it's not an amazing game.

 

 

 

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  jusomdude

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5/04/12 7:17:16 PM#57

From what we do know, I'm not buying it. Sounds way too similar to everything else out, and I'm tired of the typical MMO. They had a chance to make something unique but they are choosing to go the clone route.

  Uhwop

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Posts: 1597

5/04/12 7:19:59 PM#58
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by Xsorus
Originally posted by bishbosh

didnt expect fanbois to come out so soon. ussually they wait until closer to release.

 

i mean seriously OP are you kidding me?

 

this is what you are saying

-skyrim has unbalanced class system . best solution: replace with wow style class system

-skyrim combat is too hack and slash. best solution: replace with wow style tab target 3rd person combat

 

im sorry but 1st person perspective made elder scrolls great. the open class system made elder scrolls great (after it was fixed with mods).

you are not meant to play a character so long that you max all the skills. that was the intention of the developers. balance was never bethesda forte, it doesnt mean all their unique mechanics should be replaced with WOW mechanics.

YOU are what is WRONG with the industry. you support any piece of crap, you jump to its defense. this is why mmorpgs suck.

 

 Skyrims system simply would flat out not work in MMO setting,

 

 

 Why do some of you keep saying this? 

There are MMO's that use FPS combat, as well as action combat like TERA and DCUO, and it works.

Just because you prefer something else, doesn't mean it won't work, it means you prefer something else. 

 

And why do you need to drop the Fbomb?  Cursing doesn't make you sound smarter, nor does it make what you write true.

dcuo has hotbar combat really - it just hides it well

 When did I say anything about hotbar combat in what you quoted? 

I said action combat.  Or active combat.  You know, were you put together combos, block and dodge.  The hotbar was just one aspect of it, it didn't change what it was though. 

Or to simplify the point.   Latency is as much an issue in action combat as it is in FPS.  You can't say it doesn't work, or isn't doable when there are MMO's using those styles of combat, and have been for many years. 

Do you know what the first MMO was?  Not muds, here's a hint, it came out before UO, and it guess what kind of combat it used. 

It was doable 17 years ago, but some of you think you're going to convince people that you can't do FPS combat in an MMO today?  You're kidding right?

  bishbosh

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5/04/12 7:24:22 PM#59

xsorus

no one here is saying that ESO should have EXACTLY the same systems skryim. im sorry but your arguments are pointless because you are argueing against a point that was never made.

what we would like to see: 

- a class system that allows freedom, you make your own class. 

-  non tab target combat (preferably 1st person). i want to feel connected to the character like i do when im playing skyrim

 

 

honestly i dont think you have played any other elder scrolls other than skryim. all im hearing is skryim is suck blaahh i played it so long i maxed all my skill blahh derp.

 

also: i cannot beleive you are trying to argue that tab target and non targetting combat is exactly the same because "You face them, and Run near them and attack... ". have you bothered considering that maybe people will try to avoid your attack (durrrrrrrrrrrrrr). have you ever played a first person shooter or any multiplayer action game? are you going to tell me all you do in a FPS game is face someone run near them and attack? ridiculous... most fps games have combat that is 20x as deep, difficult to master and complicated that any tab target game has. A non target game can have everything a tab target game has plus the complexity that comes with having to aim and doge and move.

  Xsorus

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Posts: 157

 
OP  5/04/12 7:24:47 PM#60

[Mod Edit]

Really?

Here is how ya get 100 in every skill in Skyrim.

Make iron Daggers to 100 Blacksmithing

Soul enchant your bow with 1 second soul steal (So it has an assload of charges), Buy up every Soul Gem ya can, Go shoot random shit with your bow, Go enchant stuff till ya get 100 Enchanting.

Enchant your crap so you make 2 Lines (you'll need separate armor sets for this) of magic not cost anything. Do Random Spells at no cost till you get 100 in those Lines, with Destruction being the Hardest, Unless you have the Dark Brotherhood line complete then you just shoot lightning and heal one of your Torture Victims will 100 in those lines.

Max alchemy, best way is to make those healing potions with Giant Toes (which ya get from going around and one shotting Giants with your Bow since you've used Blacksmithing and Enchanting to make some really powerful items, You can then use alchemy to do it even more, For example, I have 2 Blades Swords that delve for 522 a piece)

Raise Sneak walking in a wall in place next to sleeping people (or just raise it normally since you sneak pretty much entirely through the game)

Swing shitty 1 handers/2 handers at your Nightmare horse that never dies...

Stand in place letting a Monster beat on ya while you have your Shield out.

Talk to the one NPC in that Riften Shop that basically raises your Speak skill to 100%

 

The absolute most annoying skill to get to 100?

Pickpocketing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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