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  ShakyMo

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5/04/12 6:40:07 PM#21
Wander and find pve I meant
  AdamTM

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I'M PUNCHING YOUR SALAD!!!!

5/04/12 6:45:12 PM#22
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

Screenshots don't lie.

  Vorthanion

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5/04/12 6:46:33 PM#23
Originally posted by firefly2003
Originally posted by Kost
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

What a highly offensive statement to make, implying that western companies cannot produce complex titles.

 

When was the last complex MMO title made ? Correction , when was the last good MMO made that didn't follow the simpliistic WoW formula? Good meaning not milllions of subs ( I don't call that grounds for being good) but acutally fun, engaging, and long term rentention, unique features that didn't involve raiding and shoebox pvp?

WoW may be casual friendly, but it is not simplistic and you are very wrong to consider it so.  I'm really getting tired of hardcore purists like you denegrating anything that isn't a frakking sandbox / full loot PvP gank fest.  It's fine that you want a sandbox game, but it's not okay to keep putting down other play styles.

  Vorthanion

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5/04/12 6:48:18 PM#24
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
The only saving grace is the chance that it could be like DAOC, I'd rather see that from a different game or a DAOC sequel, not the only franchise that would have given Sandbox some hope.

I got the impression from eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-the-elder-scrolls-online-preview-leaked-detailed

Matt Firor, who led development of Dark Age of Camelot - an MMO noted for its 'realm versus realm versus realm' open world player versus player combat. And the hallmarks of that game are here to see.

Gamers join one of three factions, each with three playable races.

They'll clash in Tamriel's central province of Cyrodiil, a PVP middle-ground, where keeps and forts and mines and farms will fought over by as many as 100vs100 (vs100?) people - siege weaponry included. The ultimate goal is taking the Imperial City and crowning your faction's emperor - an automated process determined by the person who tops a sort of contribution leaderboard. Being emperor bestows little more than bragging rights, apparently. That faction will then attempt to hold the Imperial City.

LOL at all the comments on that article along the lines of "sounds like a rubish SWTOR type game, GW2 is the only mmo worth playing".  Did they read the fucking article?  It sounds JUST LIKE GW2

They're just pissed that of all the games that have recently released or will release in the next couple of years, TES is the only one not going for spaztic action combat.

  User Deleted
5/04/12 6:48:27 PM#25

Well, with a "Western" developer you are pretty much guaranteed pants on the characters. Though those are optional always I guess. And I doubt there would be many Chipmunks or kittys as playable characters. We Westerners have a lot of catching up to do.

  SuprGamerX

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5/04/12 6:51:54 PM#26
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

Heh , that right there is enough to judge the game.  Would of been great 10 years ago back when WoW was still new , since The Elder Scrolls had ALOT of features that would of been great in a MMO. But again , it will just be another generic MMO that will look alot like every other MMO released , only difference it will have the name Elder Scroll slapped to it.  Honestly it's a bad idea , a waste of money , I'd stick on solo or at least some sort of multiplayer like Diablo 1 & 2 where you create your server and people join in to party and the more people that join the more and tougher the mobs get. That right there could be a big win.

  Vorthanion

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5/04/12 6:55:40 PM#27
Originally posted by Oldsalt

Well, with a "Western" developer you are pretty much guaranteed pants on the characters. Though those are optional always I guess. And I doubt there would be many Chipmunks or kittys as playable characters. We Westerners have a lot of catching up to do.

Have you played Vanguard?  They offer animals as characters in that game.  WoW allows Druids to become animals as does EverQuest I and EverQuest 2.  Pantless sex kittens aside, that really is a cultural thing and while you may embrace it, most Westerners do not and that is our choice and one that is allowed for games made for us.

  toddze

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I am not a hater, I call it like I see it.

5/04/12 6:59:44 PM#28

This game is nothing more than a money grab attempt by cashing in on a popular franchise name. The use of the hero engine already reaks of the game being made cheeply. I pray that TES fans do not buy this game to send a clear message to the devs, that we are tired of this same old fleecing shit. But I know my prayers will fall on deaf ears because this game is going to be bought up in masses, and there going to make a huge profit all the while alienating their fanbase. how sad.

Whats next a halo MMO?

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  User Deleted
5/04/12 7:03:23 PM#29
Originally posted by Vorthanion
Originally posted by Oldsalt

Well, with a "Western" developer you are pretty much guaranteed pants on the characters. Though those are optional always I guess. And I doubt there would be many Chipmunks or kittys as playable characters. We Westerners have a lot of catching up to do.

Have you played Vanguard?  They offer animals as characters in that game.  WoW allows Druids to become animals as does EverQuest I and EverQuest 2.  Pantless sex kittens aside, that really is a cultural thing and while you may embrace it, most Westerners do not and that is our choice and one that is allowed for games made for us

I think you mistook my attempt at sarcasm as defending the post. My bad, and my apologies.

 

  zevni78

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5/04/12 7:19:08 PM#30
Originally posted by toddze

This game is nothing more than a money grab attempt by cashing in on a popular franchise name. The use of the hero engine already reaks of the game being made cheeply. I pray that TES fans do not buy this game to send a clear message to the devs, that we are tired of this same old fleecing shit. But I know my prayers will fall on deaf ears because this game is going to be bought up in masses, and there going to make a huge profit all the while alienating their fanbase. how sad.

Whats next a halo MMO?

They will buy it, then complain having ignored the critics, that is the power of IP on the masses, see- SWTOR. It may not even be that bad, my problem is that it’s not elder scrolls in gameplay, just in lore, which as someone who dozes off during cut scenes and doesn't read flavour text anymore means nothing to me, and if I wanted all the good features listed I would play GW2, which I will.
  dubyahite

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5/04/12 7:42:45 PM#31
Agree with the OP. We know very little about the game systems and gave yet to see it in action.

Like I've said elsewhere, a lot of the game features sound really cool. This game reminds me of GW 2 more than wow.


Everyone, just chill out and wait to see what it's like. If it actuall does suck when you get some gameplay or beta or something, then by all means continue with your mass freak out.

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  Blackwater56

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5/04/12 8:09:25 PM#32

Oh but we DO know a lot about ES:O 

http://kotaku.com/5907598/first-elder-scrolls-online--details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo

 

Face it, this game is dead on arrival. It face plants right out of the starting gate by announcing it uses the hero engine, and then Bethesda kicks its corpse by saying its a 3rd person WoWclone

 

RIP Elder Scrolls

  jtcgs

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5/04/12 8:14:13 PM#33

Actually we CAN be very quick to judge.

1. Other than story, what made the elder scrolls games great? the modding community.

2. Who is making the game? An unknown.

3. Are any of the makers of the elder scroll games making this one? No.

 

So, of all the things that made the elder scroll games great, only the possibility of the story is there and its being made by an MMORPG noob company headed by one guy with experience.

Until they PROVE otherwise, judgement is given...and I dont fall for hype anymore so I wont get suckered in just by a name.

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  Istavaan

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5/04/12 8:14:47 PM#34
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

It not being like TES is the whole point why people are judging it as a wow clone, if they really cared they'd stay true to the series but it sounds to me like they are cashing in on the gravy train and not innovating anything. i know another successful single player rpg developer that tried to pull this trick, and their game is pretty much dead now. stay true to TES or call it something else.

  Worstluck

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5/04/12 8:21:53 PM#35

I was quick to judge yesterday and was wrong.  I am the type of person that will not believe anything until I lay my own eyes upon it.  I will just have to wait until I can play the game myself.  I don't understand what you mean by not being advanced because it's Western however.

 

I really don't care what happens to TESO, as long as it doesn't effect the single player RPGs that Bethesda makes (which I think it might) I will be happy.  I hope they can keep making the regular RPGs, we shall see.

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