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  Lobotomist

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I got so much trouble on my mind Refuse to lose.

 
OP  5/04/12 1:06:17 PM#1

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

  LizardEgypt

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Hmm ?

5/04/12 1:08:42 PM#2
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

An MMO doesn't need to have limitations, it can be exactly like TES. Other games have done it even better than the TES Single player series has. Graphics are the least important thing, this company sounds imcompetent. The only saving grace is the chance that it could be like DAOC, I'd rather see that from a different game or a DAOC sequel, not the only franchise that would have given Sandbox some hope.

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  Deron_Barak

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5/04/12 1:10:59 PM#3
I truly hope the article was a hoax by BS for buzz or someone playing a prank. The info inside wasn't just a TES title with online restrictions, it ignores everything that makes TES what it is.

A good game? Probably, but not one I'm excited about.

Just not worth my time anymore.

  Classicstar

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5/04/12 1:12:48 PM#4


Originally posted by Lobotomist
Points to the title
 
We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.
 
What we know though. And always did know.
It will not be like TES nor it can be.
It will be a MMO with all its limitations.
And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)
 

Every reply i gave was if its true then i won't play ESO and i always stick to my principles.

Im Elder Scroll fan sinds 1999 i won't play a ESO if its not true to formula of Elder Scroll solo serie.

AC1-AC2 both Darktide server. Lineage2-Darkfall 1. Many ive tried in between. Stopped playing mmorpgs for now fed up with... Played many solo games mainly rpg's.
Fav series Elder scrolls.

  Artean

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5/04/12 2:05:29 PM#5
Originally posted by Lobotomist

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

This is exactly why there should not be any ES online.

.............
When in doubt, troll.

  gigat

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5/04/12 2:10:35 PM#6
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

Lol, what's that supposed to mean!?

  Bladestrom

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Posts: 2732

5/04/12 2:14:07 PM#7
Originally posted by gigat
Originally posted by Lobotomist

Points to the title

 

We dont know nothing yet, except one article that might be totally misinformed and subjective.

 

What we know though. And always did know.

It will not be like TES nor it can be.

It will be a MMO with all its limitations.

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

 

Lol, what's that supposed to mean!?

You may not judge, but you may stereotype :)

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (9500 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (480 Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(850 elementalist)

Now playing GW2/vanilla wow

  adam_nox

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Posts: 1984

5/04/12 5:08:04 PM#8

Even if you only go off screenshots, it doesn't look good by what's implied in them, nor do I care for the style they've gone with.

  Kost

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5/04/12 5:10:53 PM#9
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

What a highly offensive statement to make, implying that western companies cannot produce complex titles.

 

  firefly2003

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5/04/12 5:19:15 PM#10
Originally posted by Kost
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

And since its developed by western company , it would probably not be that advanced either ;)

What a highly offensive statement to make, implying that western companies cannot produce complex titles.

 

When was the last complex MMO title made ? Correction , when was the last good MMO made that didn't follow the simpliistic WoW formula? Good meaning not milllions of subs ( I don't call that grounds for being good) but acutally fun, engaging, and long term rentention, unique features that didn't involve raiding and shoebox pvp?

  AIMonster

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5/04/12 5:29:22 PM#11

I don't understand the whole "limitations" thing.

We can't have action oriented combat due to limitations?  Look at Planetside and Endless Ages for older games that have done this.  Nowadays we have loads of options in action oriented MMOs from games like TERA, Raiderz, Firefly, Planetside 2, Guild Wars 2 and TSW (to some extent), Darkfall, Mortal Online, I'm sure there are plenty more.

We can't have housing in the game?  There are too many games to list with housing in some form or another.  This is just a lousy excuse.  Heck, UO had housing in it.

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  kishe

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5/04/12 5:33:43 PM#12
Originally posted by Magnum2103

I don't understand the whole "limitations" thing.

We can't have action oriented combat due to limitations?  Look at Planetside and Endless Ages for older games that have done this.  Nowadays we have loads of options in action oriented MMOs from games like TERA, Raiderz, Firefly, Planetside 2, Guild Wars 2 and TSW (to some extent), Darkfall, Mortal Online, I'm sure there are plenty more.

We can't have housing in the game?  There are too many games to list with housing in some form or another.  This is just a lousy excuse.  Heck, UO had housing in it.

It all simply reeks of Zenimax wanting to milk Bethesdas cash cow for quick profit...Bedhesda refused to do it so they had to form new studio full of gullible fools 

  Nadia

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5/04/12 5:33:44 PM#13
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
The only saving grace is the chance that it could be like DAOC, I'd rather see that from a different game or a DAOC sequel, not the only franchise that would have given Sandbox some hope.

I got the impression from eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-the-elder-scrolls-online-preview-leaked-detailed

Matt Firor, who led development of Dark Age of Camelot - an MMO noted for its 'realm versus realm versus realm' open world player versus player combat. And the hallmarks of that game are here to see.

Gamers join one of three factions, each with three playable races.

They'll clash in Tamriel's central province of Cyrodiil, a PVP middle-ground, where keeps and forts and mines and farms will fought over by as many as 100vs100 (vs100?) people - siege weaponry included. The ultimate goal is taking the Imperial City and crowning your faction's emperor - an automated process determined by the person who tops a sort of contribution leaderboard. Being emperor bestows little more than bragging rights, apparently. That faction will then attempt to hold the Imperial City.

  Jetrpg

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5/04/12 6:04:50 PM#14
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
The only saving grace is the chance that it could be like DAOC, I'd rather see that from a different game or a DAOC sequel, not the only franchise that would have given Sandbox some hope.

I got the impression from eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-the-elder-scrolls-online-preview-leaked-detailed

Matt Firor, who led development of Dark Age of Camelot - an MMO noted for its 'realm versus realm versus realm' open world player versus player combat. And the hallmarks of that game are here to see.

Gamers join one of three factions, each with three playable races.

They'll clash in Tamriel's central province of Cyrodiil, a PVP middle-ground, where keeps and forts and mines and farms will fought over by as many as 100vs100 (vs100?) people - siege weaponry included. The ultimate goal is taking the Imperial City and crowning your faction's emperor - an automated process determined by the person who tops a sort of contribution leaderboard. Being emperor bestows little more than bragging rights, apparently. That faction will then attempt to hold the Imperial City.

This literally could have been quoted from WAR, now i hope that ESO does it, but i have  high doubts.

 

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  solarine

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5/04/12 6:11:16 PM#15

I'll tell you this:

From what I've read and seen, on first impression it's nothing like what I'd think a TES MMO would be...

On the other hand, if it gives me a a wide range of choices, a coherent, atmospheric, fully explorable open world with some non-combat content to boot, I won't care it's not "what I expect out of a TES game" and still play it. :)

 

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/04/12 6:15:28 PM#16
Originally posted by Magnum2103

I don't understand the whole "limitations" thing.

We can't have action oriented combat due to limitations?  Look at Planetside and Endless Ages for older games that have done this.  Nowadays we have loads of options in action oriented MMOs from games like TERA, Raiderz, Firefly, Planetside 2, Guild Wars 2 and TSW (to some extent), Darkfall, Mortal Online, I'm sure there are plenty more.

We can't have housing in the game?  There are too many games to list with housing in some form or another.  This is just a lousy excuse.  Heck, UO had housing in it.

GW2 and TSW dont have action combat, they have mmo tab combat + no reason why TES wont have that too, in fact it sounds a heck of a lot more like those 2 combat wise than it does wow / rift / swtor.

your right about darkfall and planetside though, havent played the others so don't know

 

  uohaloran

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5/04/12 6:17:46 PM#17

I think it is another case of a game that could otherwise be decent is being assaulted because it's really not utilizing really any of the strengths of the IP.

  ShakyMo

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5/04/12 6:24:39 PM#18
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
The only saving grace is the chance that it could be like DAOC, I'd rather see that from a different game or a DAOC sequel, not the only franchise that would have given Sandbox some hope.

I got the impression from eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-the-elder-scrolls-online-preview-leaked-detailed

Matt Firor, who led development of Dark Age of Camelot - an MMO noted for its 'realm versus realm versus realm' open world player versus player combat. And the hallmarks of that game are here to see.

Gamers join one of three factions, each with three playable races.

They'll clash in Tamriel's central province of Cyrodiil, a PVP middle-ground, where keeps and forts and mines and farms will fought over by as many as 100vs100 (vs100?) people - siege weaponry included. The ultimate goal is taking the Imperial City and crowning your faction's emperor - an automated process determined by the person who tops a sort of contribution leaderboard. Being emperor bestows little more than bragging rights, apparently. That faction will then attempt to hold the Imperial City.

LOL at all the comments on that article along the lines of "sounds like a rubish SWTOR type game, GW2 is the only mmo worth playing".  Did they read the fucking article?  It sounds JUST LIKE GW2

  adam_nox

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5/04/12 6:28:16 PM#19
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
The only saving grace is the chance that it could be like DAOC, I'd rather see that from a different game or a DAOC sequel, not the only franchise that would have given Sandbox some hope.

I got the impression from eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-the-elder-scrolls-online-preview-leaked-detailed

Matt Firor, who led development of Dark Age of Camelot - an MMO noted for its 'realm versus realm versus realm' open world player versus player combat. And the hallmarks of that game are here to see.

Gamers join one of three factions, each with three playable races.

They'll clash in Tamriel's central province of Cyrodiil, a PVP middle-ground, where keeps and forts and mines and farms will fought over by as many as 100vs100 (vs100?) people - siege weaponry included. The ultimate goal is taking the Imperial City and crowning your faction's emperor - an automated process determined by the person who tops a sort of contribution leaderboard. Being emperor bestows little more than bragging rights, apparently. That faction will then attempt to hold the Imperial City.

LOL at all the comments on that article along the lines of "sounds like a rubish SWTOR type game, GW2 is the only mmo worth playing".  Did they read the fucking article?  It sounds JUST LIKE GW2

No it sounds (and looks) like TOR, and TOR and GW2, while having a lot of the standard mmo stuff in common, are in actuality worlds apart.

  ShakyMo

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5/04/12 6:39:21 PM#20
So which of tor and gw2 have these

Open world
No agro
Limited skill set from a pool and combo / state orientated combat
No quest hubs just wander off and find pvp
An entire province dedicated to 3 way pvp

Because all those features are in TES
As well as the return of open dungeons and world raids
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