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  fivoroth

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5/04/12 3:16:23 AM#21

The good thing is that this is not going to affect the development of the TES series as Bethesda said they have a completely different team working on the MMO.

Aside from that, what did you guys expect? An MMO which has amazing graphics like the TES series? That's never going to work in an MMO.

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  UtukuMoon

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5/04/12 3:18:36 AM#22
Originally posted by kishe

"Authentic elder scrolls experience" with no player housing, no real time combat, no fpv, no vampires/werewolves, faction locked races, skill caps...

 

 

This can all be added,Kemit was not built in a day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

  GrayGhost79

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5/04/12 3:21:02 AM#23
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Originally posted by kishe

"Authentic elder scrolls experience" with no player housing, no real time combat, no fpv, no vampires/werewolves, faction locked races, skill caps...

 

 

This can all be added,Kemit was not built in a day.

Apparently it can't lol, housing seems to be beyond Zenimax Onlines ability. They stated it would be to difficult for them lol.

  kishe

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5/04/12 3:25:06 AM#24
Originally posted by fivoroth

The good thing is that this is not going to affect the development of the TES series as Bethesda said they have a completely different team working on the MMO.

Aside from that, what did you guys expect? An MMO which has amazing graphics like the TES series? That's never going to work in an MMO.

I would of accepted game that looked like original Morrowind if only the gameplay were like Elder Scrolls games.

 

Instead they are planning on game thats basically WoW in elder scrolls skin.

  Jakard

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5/04/12 3:29:25 AM#25

Is it just me or are people making A LOT of assumptions about this game? Am I wrong? It seems like we've had very, very little information about this game at all.

  kishe

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5/04/12 3:31:34 AM#26
Originally posted by Jakard

Is it just me or are people making A LOT of assumptions about this game? Am I wrong? It seems like we've had very, very little information about this game at all.

The leaked gamesinformer article pretty much gives good idea on what ESO is and what it isnt.

 

 

  GrayGhost79

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5/04/12 3:33:24 AM#27
Originally posted by Jakard

Is it just me or are people making A LOT of assumptions about this game? Am I wrong? It seems like we've had very, very little information about this game at all.

http://xbigygames.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-screenshots-and-details/

We've gotten a decent bit of info to go on so far.

  lifesbrink

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5/04/12 4:47:14 AM#28

Well, reading the article, it sounds like this game will be a mixture of awful and good.  Combat sounds great, the world sounds awful.

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  Sid_Vicious

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5/04/12 4:50:51 AM#29

I mostly hope that it has something fun to compete for. Anything that makes it so that if I am the best PVPer I may be set back a few weeks from messing up one time or something other than Guildwars (for example) where a PVP title can be farmed by a bad player who simply has the time.

 

I want to be rewarded for player skill. It doesn't have a to be in a way other than bragging rights . .. so I am not asking for rights to grief players but more of rights for risk vs reward.

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  Adamantine

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5/04/12 4:52:24 AM#30

Whow ! Looking great.

If the gameplay is also great, this might actually be my next MMO.

But is there any way to read this article without killing my eyes ? The script is awfully small and I cant zoom in.

  Chrome1980

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5/04/12 4:52:50 AM#31
Originally posted by MisterSr

(I apologize in advance for the oh so unclever title, roll eyes if you must)

http://imgur.com/a/fO9Ty#6 Really? No that is not Cyrodill, or Tamriel--or any other location in TES. Zenimax thought they could throw Elder Scrolls on there and make me toss money at my screen, nice try. I'll be throwing up something at my screen, but it will not be money--more like last nights dinner. Seriously? This game series has defined my childhood, why would Bethesda just hand over such a glorious EP to their "sister" company to ruin? I'm probably overreacting--I'm definitely overreacting, it's not like anyone is forcing me to play this game; they're not. But it's just the fact that it will exist in TES cannon forever, you can't eliminate something that Bethesda will accept as true and will most likely be carried into other games. I just pray that the graphics don't speak for the gameplay--I haven't had time to read the article yet; but I pray it's filled with more detail on gameplay and story; maybe there will be some redeeming quality in there that I missed from skimming it. Anyways folks. read it and weep--or cheer. That's just my two cents on the matter. 

Screenshots look like updated Rift engine. What is the fixation with graphics anyways? and it is too soon to judge a game just from screenshots.

  Sid_Vicious

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5/04/12 5:00:48 AM#32
Originally posted by kishe
Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

Which engine are they using?

Hero Engine.

Uhhhhh

 

lol

 

jk

 

I will definitely have to try this game no matter how bad it looks.

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  TruthXHurts

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5/04/12 6:00:54 AM#33
Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Third person hotbar based MMORPG? So they are taking features from World of Warcraft and failing right out of the gate? Did they not see how horrible SWTOR ended up being? So they use the same engine, ditch all the features the franchise is remotely popular for, and shit out some crappy third person WoW clone with instanced heroic dungeons? No one actually likes running the same crappy content over and over again in World of Warcraft. That isn't why the game is popular. Why are developers so blind that they just steal the worst features from every popular game and expect it's going to sell. Oh yeah, because half you guys are going to preorder it anyway. LOL

Guaranteed it's launching with Dungeon Finder and all those immersion breaking conveinence features. Developers aren't even trying anymore, after reading that article there is almost nothing they can announce that's going to be redeeming. The fact that I heard the word "Classes" and "Instances" in a game refering to Elder Scrolls means this has already failed.

It's the new business model. They make their money back in pre orders and Collector's Editions, and then they consider 3 months of subs a success. After that they go F2P and milk the teet of entitlement culture.

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  eldaris

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5/04/12 6:06:42 AM#34


While I don't like the lack of housing,use of phasing and the presence of raids ,the 3 factions rvr sounds good and if they create a huge world open to exploration like tes games (with as few loading screens as possible and without artificial borders between zone games ),maybe some decent crafting and non combat activities then i am ok with it.
FFA pvp (with loot or not ) will not happen in a successful AAA mmo.

  rungard

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5/04/12 6:17:00 AM#35

/em perform the jedi mind trick on myself...

/em does some mystical hand gesture...

this is not the game im looking for..

this is not the game im looking for.......

move along..

move along......

  Opapanax

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5/04/12 6:33:00 AM#36
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by TGSOL
Originally posted by Creslin321

At this point I am extremely cautious of this game for one key reason.  From what I understand, it's not being made by Bethesda, it's being made by some development studio that their parent company (Zenimax) owns, and the lead (Matt Firor) previously worked at Mythic.

Sooooo....it's essentially just some studio making an MMORPG that has the Elder Scrolls IP.  Yeah...I'll believe this will be good when I see it.

There is a plus side: it might not be plagued with countless bugs, glitches, stability issues, etc.

 

But from a non-technical standpoint, yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.

Eh, I would take an amazing game that had a bunch of bugs and crashed over a mediocre game that ran wonderfully any day of the week :).

I dunno, I think that people are getting excited over nothing with this whole ES MMO.  There's a reason that every ES game has been great, and that's because the same core team has worked on all of them.

The MMO though is a totally different team, so the "magic" behind the Elder Scrolls series simply is not there.  The IP doesn't mean anything to me at all.  To me, it's just an "MMO" made by "some unknown dev."

That's a hard thing for some people to accept. They need to realize that just because the game shares a title and likeness to a familar single player experience. It doesn't mean it will be translated well over to a MMO format. Unfortunately it's not even the original team working on this.

So between that, the game supposedly coming out in 2013 AND the use of the Hero Engine all equals up to a "NO-GO" on  this ES MMO. The game drops too soon to have any real honest hard work put into it and with the Hero Engine it just allows them to make even more shortcuts in areas as they try to rush out their product.

SWTOR showed us how it's not supposed to be done and exposed the consumer to some of the practices that these companies choose to utilize. Hopefully we the consumers haven't forgetten so easily and do a better job at our homework before just handing out money over to the next shinny..

 

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  Kazuhiro

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5/04/12 6:43:35 AM#37
Originally posted by Creslin321

and the lead (Matt Firor) previously worked at Mythic.

Oh dear god no... Well there goes any hope of it being a good pvp game.

 

On the positive side, I now know it will be crap, and since Bethesda arn't making it, I can hope The elderscrolls VI is being made still.

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  eldaris

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5/04/12 6:51:13 AM#38


Originally posted by Opapanax

So between that, the game supposedly coming out in 2013 AND the use of the Hero Engine all equals up to a "NO-GO" on  this ES MMO. The game drops too soon to have any real honest hard work put into it and with the Hero Engine it just allows them to make even more shortcuts in areas as they try to rush out their product.


You can't know if the game is launched too soon to have "any real honest hard work put into it" since we don't know when they started to work on it.I agree with you on sw:tor and i will probably wait and hope they have some kind of open beta for elder scrolls .I like elder scrolls games but after so many famous ip mmos which failed (at least in my opinion) ,seems wiser to wait for an open beta or lot of reviews before buying the game.

  Don-Quixote

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5/04/12 6:51:59 AM#39

I'll be a fanboi of this game.

No, wait, I'll better be a hater.

Or a fanboi

or a hater

arrrgghhhh... so hard to make a decision!

  Opapanax

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5/04/12 7:01:23 AM#40
Originally posted by eldaris

 


Originally posted by Opapanax

 

So between that, the game supposedly coming out in 2013 AND the use of the Hero Engine all equals up to a "NO-GO" on  this ES MMO. The game drops too soon to have any real honest hard work put into it and with the Hero Engine it just allows them to make even more shortcuts in areas as they try to rush out their product.

 


 

You can't know if the game is launched too soon to have "any real honest hard work put into it" since we don't know when they started to work on it.I agree with you on sw:tor and i will probably wait and hope they have some kind of open beta for elder scrolls .I like elder scrolls games but after so many famous ip mmos which failed (at least in my opinion) ,seems wiser to wait for an open beta or lot of reviews before buying the game.

True we really don't know when they started development, but anything that comes out within 2 years of development and wants to claim to be a large / massive experience should really consider retweaking their vision or at least think twice of how they word things to consumers.

The reason I have to "suspect" on the development time being shorter than something that could be considered a serious product / or A-A-A title as I'm sure we'll be hearing ONCE AGAIN.. is that say to release within 2013 if the release date was further back here. Then that could give them more time to work on ES: Online. With it not being the creators of the IP working on the game is a major worry and with the announcement of the Hero Engine is autoamic red lights with an early release mention at the same time.

It's exactly how SWTOR came out also.. They "worked" on the game since 2005, but one of the VERY last things they took the time to consider was the actual engine for the game. Then they (SWTOR) picked a version of the Hero Engine (Developed for a game that never came out)  that wasn't even complete.

ES: Online is using an updated version of the Hero Engine, so I'm sure they have more assets to use. Things such as swimming are in the new version of Hero Engine. It's not in SWTOR's version (maybe soon? lol). They really need to take the time to learn and utilize that engine well before I can trust it or any developer that chooses to use it in their game.

I need to see it used well first.. For real..

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