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  eyeswideopen

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5/03/12 1:12:14 PM#121

PvP focus = no thanks.




They had the opportunity to prove sandbox =/= gankfest and they ignored it.




I'll wait for the next sandbox train.


Edit: And exactly who is going to fix the hundreds/thousands of bugs this time? You can't have modders fixing code in an mmo.





 

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  GrumpyMel2

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5/03/12 1:13:04 PM#122

Big fan of the TES single-player RPG's. Will wait to hear more details about the MMO before I decide to be excited or not.  Obviously IF they managed to do justice to the series...it would be awesome to play...however, there is plenty of potential to screw this up monumentaly...and they are going to have to solve alot of tricky issues in translating game-play from SPRPG to MMORPG. Will wait to hear more details....  the IP is great, the SPRPG's were awesome....doesn't mean that the MMO will be any good.  Lets hear more details about exactly what they intend to build before we hype ourselves into a frenzy... worst thing we can do is let Developers think they can earn our business by just buying a hot name/IP.


  orbitxo

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5/03/12 1:20:43 PM#123

well as i see it now.  Best rpg out there. nice introduction for an mmo , but...








they have a huge leap to follow in the mmorpg world, and how high are they gonna raise the bar?








Ill wait to hear more before my reaction to ESO.








 











 




 

  Sinaku

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5/03/12 1:21:49 PM#124

Holy shit! I have never been more excited!!! This will make or break every MMO for me. If this bombs then I think I am done with MMOs. 


  SlyLoK

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5/03/12 1:21:49 PM#125

All other MMOs are dead to me now..


  kirak2009

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5/03/12 1:25:40 PM#126

I was in a private super secret preview play session ,  this game  sucks, same old same old crap. Ya have to start off weak and grow a character in a persitent world.  pfffft




 




 




LOL,  this is an awesome announcement :)





 

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  Albred

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5/03/12 1:26:09 PM#127

3 Factions, Large scale PvP, Game Director is Matt Firor from Dark Age of Caemlot.  Please just call this Dark Age of Camelot 2 so I can die happy.


  Vidir

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5/03/12 1:26:31 PM#128

The  Elder Scrolls mmo could imo be a very succsessful game with huge fanbase.I think tho that this will never happen and if there will be an elder scrols mmo it will be same group/raid  gear/level grinding game as the rest of them.

Maybe if they let the fighting to be let more solo and you could build houses and cityes with your friends also very huge database of rare items/minerals/hides and stuff you could trade with people,best if there is no auctionhall but some kind of announsment boards you could set your stuff for sale and those interested would have to take contact with you.

Well this is maybe unreal wish from me but that is some of the features I would like to see in Elder Scrolls mmo.

  gaeanprayer

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5/03/12 1:31:16 PM#129

Wow, I totally called this wrong. I never thought Bethesda would reduce their game to MMO standards. And yes, there is a reduction in quality there, as even GW2's events don't create a permanent affect on the world. In order to do that, they'd have to instance parts of their game, but then everyone would complain that Bethesda is making a single-player online game instead of an MMO. 

MMOs are a massive drain of money and effort that, in Bethesda's case (and another company that begins with a B, who shan't be mentioned >_>) would have been better spent making even better single-player games.

 

Edit: Oh, made my Zenimax, not Bethesda. Well, carry on, then.

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  ShakyMo

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5/03/12 1:37:12 PM#130
But bethseda are not making it, they are still working on single player rpgs, e.g. skyrim expansion, fallout 4

Zenimax online is making it
  SlyLoK

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5/03/12 1:41:38 PM#131
Originally posted by gaeanprayer

 

 

Edit: Oh, made my Zenimax, not Bethesda. Well, carry on, then.

Yea. I think this should be taken into account. Most seem to just assume Bethesda themselves were working on the game.

  Fusion

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5/03/12 1:43:24 PM#132

Was only a matter of time.


Come back in 2015 to see if they've opened up a beta signup :)





 

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  dzoni87

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5/03/12 1:43:37 PM#133

  I have some bad feeling about this. This may break the TES franchise for good if not done correctly. And "next year release" doesnt sound good at all. On the other hand i thought that they are going for 'Fallout Online' after all that legal dispute vs. Interplay, but i hope that franchise will remain at Single-Player waters.


  Nearly SP RPG nowadays HAVE to have MMORPG sequel and it is going on the edge of my nerves sometimes. At least we will have 'Wasteland 2' in couple of years :\


Main MMO at the moment: Guild Wars 2
Waiting for: Pathfinder Online

  lilHeala

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5/03/12 1:43:58 PM#134

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

Wow, I totally called this wrong. I never thought Bethesda would reduce their game to MMO standards. And yes, there is a reduction in quality there, as even GW2's events don't create a permanent affect on the world. In order to do that, they'd have to instance parts of their game, but then everyone would complain that Bethesda is making a single-player online game instead of an MMO. 


MMOs are a massive drain of money and effort that, in Bethesda's case (and another company that begins with a B, who shan't be mentioned >_>) would have been better spent making even better single-player games.


 


Edit: Oh, made my Zenimax, not Bethesda. Well, carry on, then.



 


Bethesda is owned by Zenimax and the Zenimax online studio was founded in 2007 by Matt Firor (who produced DAOC and left Mythic in 2006).


Allthough I like the TES games and DAOC was a great game in many aspects I'm not sure if I should be sad or happy with the news. I don't put blind faith in a studio just because of a good track record of the producer and the franchise. It's still gonna be his first game with that studio and if not done well it could kill the franchise. So I wait until a lot of information and actual in-game footage is available before getting excited.


  ShakyMo

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5/03/12 1:46:28 PM#135
I think I heard some of the uo guys were involved too.
  dronfwar

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1+1=1
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5/03/12 1:46:30 PM#136

hmmm Zenimax Online...hmm HeroEngine...

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16368

in development for many years already...

no physics... very cool...millions of shattered dreams...

this is going to be fun indeed for all them trolls.

 

edit: why still no multiplayer for TES series????

  Morv

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5/03/12 1:46:43 PM#137
Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

Now that Game Informer has revealed the presence of Elder Scrolls Online, we have a few thoughts to share about what we think the game will mean to the MMORPG space. Read on and then weigh in with your thoughts in the comments.

I don't think I'm reaching if I say we have all spent hours of our RPG time in the world of the Elder Scrolls with around half a dozen games and endless gameplay over the past two decades the franchise has become legendary (and deservedly so). Skyrim has been voted the number one game of the 2011 many times over. Now, we will finally get to adventure in Elder Scrolls Online with our friends, and without the shoddy help of a third-party add-on. Folks, ESO is a reality. Did I call it in my predictions last year, and this year, or did I call it? The scope of an online version of Elder Scrolls is massive. It is the perfect world for an MMO to take place in. It's ripe for the plunder as it were. But what does this do to the MMO market for the next ten years, if anything?

Read more of Bill Murphy's What the Elder Scrolls Online Means for MMORPGs.


It means nothing until we see what they have in mind.... One major question from me is, "Will there be persistent objects similar to Skyrim?" Persistent objects are often left out of online games because of the misconception that they suck up 'too' much memory... This is not an issue anymore so I am curious if they will stick to their Elder Scrolls gameplay features or fall on their face and make a WoW clone with Elder Scroll skins.

  Fusion

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5/03/12 1:48:40 PM#138

Heroengine... bah, that's it for me.


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  Morv

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5/03/12 1:49:26 PM#139
Originally posted by dronfwar

hmmm Zenimax Online...hmm HeroEngine...

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16368

in development for many years already...

no physics... very cool...millions of shattered dreams...

this is going to be fun indeed for all them trolls.

 

edit: why still no multiplayer for TES series????

They have been developing their MMO engine for a few years now already, it is not the Creation Engine used with Skyrim.

  DarkPony

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5/03/12 1:50:26 PM#140
Originally posted by eyeswideopen

PvP focus = no thanks.




They had the opportunity to prove sandbox =/= gankfest and they ignored it.




I'll wait for the next sandbox train.


Edit: And exactly who is going to fix the hundreds/thousands of bugs this time? You can't have modders fixing code in an mmo.


 

Don't be such a negative Nancy, eyes :P

p.s. non-pvp focussed games, (at least games with non-consequential, zero excitement pvp), are the vast majority of games these days. I really am dead tired of gameplay which doesn't manage to challenge or excite me in the "player danger" department. Rinse and repeat pvp is not what I play mmorpg's for. So I'm hoping this time it will be a little different. Maybe not full loot and completely FFA, but at least make me want to avoid death, instead of death being just a quick way to fast travel.

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