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DeserttFoxx
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Joined: 5/11/04
Cry Havok; and let loose the dogs of war. Si vis pacem, para bellum |
5/02/12 4:13:41 PM#101
Originally posted by Twisted77 true pvpers are anti gear grind?
News to me... Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson |
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5/02/12 4:21:12 PM#102
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx We all know that when people bring out the "true" ____ that they are full of it.
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5/02/12 4:23:01 PM#103
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx Actually yes True Pvpers are skill based players not gear grind players. Big difference in using skill to win and players that rely on gear to compete at all. |
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5/02/12 4:28:29 PM#104
I think the game will get kinda boring after I've had my fill of the mists. Going after cosmetic gear doesn't sound that interesting. There doesn't seem to be any sense of long term goals. IMO, games need some sort of grind at max lvl to keep players hooked. Guess it doesn't matter much as far as making money goes for ANet since there's no sub cost, but I'd like to have some long term goals to go after in the game. Better gear doesn't even have to be all that much better but at least something would be nice.
I really don't care about having better gear than the next guy, I just want something to entice me to play besides just for the fleeting fun of it. |
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5/02/12 4:32:13 PM#105
If you want a true, classic gear grinding experience with raid tiers and all that jazz, GW2 isn't the game for you. I'm not sure why people are bothered by the fact that GW2 is the game that it is, rather than the game that they want it to be. There are plenty of other choices for gear grinds. "Loading screens" are not "instances". |
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5/02/12 4:41:40 PM#106
I don't necessarily like gear grind but I do expect to have better gear the higher level I go. Here is why: a skilled player will always beat me at pvp. I know that both my sons are going to pawn me in pvp no matter how good I get unless I have something to make up for the difference in skill. That difference is gear.
The mantra that "the skilled player should always win" sounds good to the young and skilled but for other audiences it will fall flat. First, people like me who are not skilled will become discouraged. We can't beat skilled players no matter what we do - why keep playing? Second, the medium skill people will be disappointed for, as time goes on, the really skillful will dominate everything. How long would you stay with a game when you always get beaten? I know that for many pvpers this is exactly what they are looking for. I don't think that it will be long term good for GW2 - it will end up like GW1. Worse case scenario is that the game will end up like DAOC, Aion and Darkfall - good pvp games but not wildly popular. In spite of what I said above I did enjoy the GW2 beta and look forward to playing the game upon release. There is so much else other than pvp that is fun. |
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The1ceQueen
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Joined: 1/02/08
"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back." |
5/02/12 4:46:18 PM#107
Originally posted by Thorbrand Those people that think they're hardcore and have had gear prop them up over the years with WoW, are in for a shock against the old school pvp'ers from UO/AC 1/Dark Age of Camelot....
What happens when you log off your characters????..... |
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5/02/12 4:47:26 PM#108
Originally posted by tordurbar That's why something like WvW exists. You don't need to be the most skilled player to have an impact. In fact, a brash or reckless skilled PvP'er might be less useful than someone who simply focuses on teamwork, objectives and doing what needs doing. Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure. |
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5/02/12 4:52:54 PM#109
Originally posted by NaughtyP ^ This. You might not be the best PvPer, hell I know that I'm not, but if you stay with a team as you roam around WvW, and figure out how to use your abilities to compliment and/or support theirs, you can still have a lot of fun. And other things, like helping to complete the PvE objectives in WvWvW, or keep defense, don't require a lot of skill per se, but does require people knowing what to do and how to best support their server/team's efforts. "Loading screens" are not "instances". |
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5/02/12 4:56:45 PM#110
Originally posted by jusomdude Clarify? You either care about gear grind or you don't. It's okay to care one way or another. But this tatment contradicts yourself. What entices you to play is having complete sets of armor, if you don't care about the stats, why does it matter if they have them?
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5/02/12 4:59:46 PM#111
No, they don't have the same stats. They do have the same base damage range, but additional stats (like +precision) can be customized.
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5/02/12 5:16:46 PM#112
Every other game on the market these days has "uber gear" for grinders. Can we have ONE game that is not focused on raiding for gear every other week to keep up? ONE game that values enjoyment over "rewards"? I, and many like me, play games for FUN, not to show off yet another piece of gear we spent the last month of our lives trying get.
Please play one of the 100 other mmo's that already pander to the vanity crowd and leave the ONE mmo that is getting back to roots alone so my kind of people have something to enjoy. TThanks!
I always wonder when people stopped playing games for the fun of it... WTF happened to just having fun?!?
GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know I am not alone in being perplexed by this change in values.
It's why I love PvP. There isn't really a point to it. You can "win" the game as it were without pvp'ing. It's just FUN to play cowboys and indians with your pals in the front yard. Run around being silly and living out the fantasy for awhile, just because it's there!
All your keeps will belong to me! |
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5/02/12 5:46:20 PM#113
Havnt read the thread but I think it works something like this..... You get your gear which has base stats on it, and you enchant them in any way you wish according to what works better for your build. This way people have the same gear but stats flucuate in different ways.
Am i right? |
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5/02/12 5:47:31 PM#114
Originally posted by xracerx8000 Yesssss |
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Xzen
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Joined: 5/01/06
A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands. |
5/02/12 5:48:14 PM#115
Originally posted by xracerx8000 Yes the gear has slots that you can use to customise it. |
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5/02/12 5:50:30 PM#116
Originally posted by Xzen
Thats perfect, I dont see why people are complaining. What better way than to balance the items, and have people customize each item based on their prefered playstyle.
Suits me. |
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5/02/12 5:54:27 PM#117
Originally posted by Veshi Logical fallacy really, not to mention an ugly amount of stereotype. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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5/02/12 6:07:14 PM#118
Some of you should know that gear isn't the only thing to strive for in games. There is also titles, achievements, rankings, etc.
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ZoeMcCloskey
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 7/14/05
INTJ, polite but difficult to be friends with :P |
5/02/12 6:07:31 PM#119
Originally posted by Thorbrand 100% agreed  |
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5/02/12 9:01:41 PM#120
Originally posted by Depravity44 If you believe that, good for you. No need for me to try to change your mind. Oh, and why are you on the Guild Wars 2 section of these forums? No offense, but obviously you do not like what anet is selling and you have every right to play a game that you will enjoy.. why come here and get all mad at people liking something different?
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